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kimpossible

09-23-2002, 10:06 AM

Haver you ever received poor treatment from full-blooded Asians?

deez nuts

09-23-2002, 12:59 PM

I haven't but I've seen it in all my years growing up. I even got slack from my "pure asian" friends for dating "mixed asians."

kimpossible

09-23-2002, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Sep 23 2002, 11:59 AM
I haven't but I've seen it in all my years growing up. I even got slack from my "pure asian" friends for dating "mixed asians."
Okay, what did they say?

thaite

09-23-2002, 01:03 PM

Bad dating experience with evil Chinese supremist bitch.

Okay, this is just an annoyance, people say stupid things and then turn to me "Haha, I'll bet you're only half-offended because you're half White/Asian. Yeah, great joke.

Basically, a general sense of marginalizing from other Asians. "Well, your half-White so you have things better off. You don't understand what it means to be Asian."

My mom was kicked out of her dad's house for my dad being white, me being mixed. He died before I ever returned to Thailand, so I don't know if he ever got over it. My mom doesn't talk much about that.

On the other end of things, I had a somewhat difficult relationship with my dad's father, him being a product of his time and a WWII veteran. He hard a hard time with me and my mom, but I think he eventually got over it. Or at least he appeared to. He had a better relationship with my brothers because they had never been fobs.

deez nuts

09-23-2002, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 23 2002, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Sep 23 2002, 11:59 AM
I haven't but I've seen it in all my years growing up.  I even got slack from my "pure asian" friends for dating "mixed asians."
Okay, what did they say?
The most vivid was I took a half japanese/half white girl to my senior prom. Alot of Chinese people around me were saying : "It's not enough you sold us out by taking a white girl to the senior prom, but you further humiliate the Chinese by taking a half Japanese also." I got the most shit from the Chinese girls.

And other close minded and ignorant shit here and there, for hanging out with Hapas having Hapa friends. I basically lost some friends, because I got sick of it and decided I wanted to hang out whom I wanted to.

AliBabaIncorporated

09-24-2002, 10:03 AM

hey HH, you sent me a PM about this like a while ago. but then it kinda slipped my mind. sorry 'bout dat. anyway ...

I haven't had much experience of racism in HK. Except for the shopkeepers who insist on using poor English to me, even when they've heard me speaking Cantonese. Even when I have used Cantonese to directly address them.

Malays are always incredibly happy to hear me speak any BM at all. Unless they hear me turn to my friends and speak in Chinese 5 minutes later. Then I'm dismissed as another Malaysian Chinese who doesn't bother to learn the national language.

USA? Speaking Japanese anywhere in my university always has the potential to get ABCs starting new rumors about me that I'm a white guy with an Asian fetish. Actually those rumors did really get going when I started hanging out with HKers (mostly guys, actually) and then a year later when I asked my first girlfriend out (an ABC, actually). the non-Chinese speaking ABCs, the same type who sit around the table and brag about how they are dating a white girl will start such rumors. especially when a girl I pick up was a girl one of them was interested in, then they dismiss their failure as her having a white guy fetish.

kimpossible

09-24-2002, 10:17 AM

Then it sounds like sometimes the gender of the mixed Asian person makes a difference to Asians. As in, it's scoring for the Asian brutha' hood to nail wholly white girls, but an Asian girl is selling out if she goes for a mixed Asian guy.

Kind of like the whole WM/AF rant extending out to mixed Asians.

Eric> thx. :)

To everyone> what about non-white mixed Asians? Oh, let's pick on blasians for the moment: what is realistically the attitude they face from Asians? You can answer here, but there is also a thread about eurasians vs. non-white mixed Asians.

DaBestSpooner

09-26-2002, 07:28 PM

on 3 occasions, really really cute korean girls approached me, we'd chit chat, I'd make a poop fart joke, buy her a coffee sans the roofie, we'd exchange numbers, I do the 6 day rule(call her on the 10th day).

So on the tenth day we'd talk on the phone, like after 10 minutes of talking.

girl: "so are you korean?"

me: "umm no I'm chinese"

girl: "really? I thought you were korean"

me: "oh okay"

girl: "you sure you're not korean?"

me: "nah"

girl: "hey I gotta go my friend is picking me up soon, talk to yah later"

me: "take care"

never hear from them again

kasia

09-26-2002, 07:48 PM

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 24 2002, 05:17 PM
To everyone> what about non-white mixed Asians? Oh, let's pick on blasians for the moment: what is realistically the attitude they face from Asians? You can answer here, but there is also a thread about eurasians vs. non-white mixed Asians.
my younger cousins are blasian. they have a stepbrother (my stepcousin) who is full black from an earlier marriage. everyone else in the family treats them like family. but the strange this is that, while us cousins recognize them for what they are--half black/half asian and black-- the older generation (parents and grandparents) refers to them collectively as just plain black, disregarding that the two younger ones are half-asian...

artsfartsyjanet

09-27-2002, 07:26 AM

When I was a young girl growing up, I would overhear my parents talking about someone being mixed. In their Vietnamese, they'd refer to someone mixed as "lai" or something like that. Then, they'd go back in their Cantonese and talk about that person in a negative light. My parents are very ignorant, which is why I hardly see them unless someone's birthday comes up. I love'm but they bug me.

DaBestSpooner

09-27-2002, 09:02 PM

Originally posted by kasia@Sep 26 2002, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 24 2002, 05:17 PM
To everyone> what about non-white mixed Asians? Oh, let's pick on blasians for the moment: what is realistically the attitude they face from Asians? You can answer here, but there is also a thread about eurasians vs. non-white mixed Asians.
my younger cousins are blasian. they have a stepbrother (my stepcousin) who is full black from an earlier marriage. everyone else in the family treats them like family. but the strange this is that, while us cousins recognize them for what they are--half black/half asian and black-- the older generation (parents and grandparents) refers to them collectively as just plain black, disregarding that the two younger ones are half-asian...
didnt yah read my post of the vice magazine guide to races, if you got an once of black blood in you, your black

kimpossible

09-29-2002, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by KuroBishounen@Sep 29 2002, 07:06 PM
Note: I just realized that I posted in the "Hapa" section....and, of course, I am not a "Hapa"...however...I would like to keep this post up, if Hello_Hapa doesn't mind..
As long as you keep paying me those bribes...

blkazngirl

10-10-2002, 07:06 PM

kasia

10-10-2002, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by blkazngirl@Oct 11 2002, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 24 2002, 05:17 PM

To everyone> what about non-white mixed Asians? Oh, let's pick on blasians for the moment: what is realistically the attitude they face from Asians? You can answer here, but there is also a thread about eurasians vs. non-white mixed Asians.
It hurts when it comes from family. But you learn to over look those that can't deal with it.
as i posted earlier, some of my cousins are blasian. i don't see them quite as often anymore, but we used to have a lot of family get-togethers when we were younger. noone was ever blatantly racist but i can imagine that they felt left out just by virtue of not looking like everyone else in the family and because the adults would always speak chinese (which they did not understand.) the insensitivity is there...but most, if not all, of the times, it was unintentional. bottom line, though, they were, and always will be, viewed as family.

kimpossible

10-11-2002, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by blkazngirl@Oct 10 2002, 06:06 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 24 2002, 05:17 PM

To everyone> what about non-white mixed Asians? Oh, let's pick on blasians for the moment: what is realistically the attitude they face from Asians? You can answer here, but there is also a thread about eurasians vs. non-white mixed Asians.
It hurts when it comes from family. But you learn to over look those that can't deal with it.
Do you think there has been a change of attitude that you've seen? I guess I mean from childhood to now. We've seen or named quite a few famous blasians in this forum. Is there an increased awareness?

My undocumented guess is that there are more outmarriages now and it's becoming more common to see mixed Asians.

igcognito

10-19-2002, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by kasia@Sep 27 2002, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 24 2002, 05:17 PM
To everyone> what about non-white mixed Asians? Oh, let's pick on blasians for the moment: what is realistically the attitude they face from Asians? You can answer here, but there is also a thread about eurasians vs. non-white mixed Asians.
my younger cousins are blasian. they have a stepbrother (my stepcousin) who is full black from an earlier marriage. everyone else in the family treats them like family. but the strange this is that, while us cousins recognize them for what they are--half black/half asian and black-- the older generation (parents and grandparents) refers to them collectively as just plain black, disregarding that the two younger ones are half-asian...
Once you have, been "tainted", you will be considered black. Race is not what you are, it is how people see you, sad, but true. Half black/half white, the cops beat you just as much as they beat the other blacks (sick, but true humor). So yeah, it is sad :frown: . My x-girlfriend has a similar experience with her big bro, married and had a kid with a black woman divorced and now remarried and had a kid with a white woman. The parents accept him and speak only English around him.

Seeing how me and KuroB_, I think are the only black posters. I hope we help change your views on blacks. But I will honestly admit there is a 1:150 ratio of ignorant blacks to non.

deez nuts

10-19-2002, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by igcognito@Oct 19 2002, 10:11 AM

Seeing how me and KuroB_, I think are the only black posters. I hope we help change your views on blacks. But I will honestly admit there is a 1:150 ratio of ignorant blacks to non.
I don't got beef with blacks. I'm da AzN godfather to my boy's kid, who is black. It's all good when you big pimpin' in da NYC.

kimpossible

10-19-2002, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by igcognito@Oct 19 2002, 07:11 AM
Seeing how me and KuroB_, I think are the only black posters. I hope we help change your views on blacks. But I will honestly admit there is a 1:150 ratio of ignorant blacks to non.
We have Hito and ronin too. Dunno if blkazngirl would consider herself black, I see her as hapa first. I'll let her make that decision herself. Though ronin doesn't post very much. Just to clarify, I don't think kasia was expressing her views, but illustrating the generational difference in how race can be seen. As in her generation recognizes her cousins/family members as biracial and the older gen sees them as non-Asian.

It doesn't happen to blasians only. A lot of mixed Asians, regardless of the non-Asian blood are similarly treated. I just think it's important to explore the topic rather then treat it like taboo.

igcognito

10-19-2002, 11:56 AM

I see what you mean. :rolleyes:

BeTheReds

10-22-2002, 02:06 AM

Yes, I have been discriminated against by Asians because of my appearance.

1. People have told me that I am not really Korean, meanwhile an adoptee somehow is.

2. I've been accused of having an Asian fetish

3. I've been denied entry into a Korean club on the grounds that there was a reserved party that I wasnt invited to, when in acuality my friends were waiting for me inside.

4. When I had a Chinese girlfriend and we went to a Korean restaurant. The waitress spoke only Korean and kept asking her things in Korean. I was translating. I finished the order in Korean, then the waitress turns to me and asks in broken english if I need a fork. (ok, so this is not descrimination, but i felt bad anyway)

5. Same chinese girlfriend, who was a total twinkie before me, dates me and discovers that its okay to be asian, then goes on an asian pride parade and dumps me for the dorkiest Taiwanese American she could find on short notice (after 2 years of dating).

6. Never being picked for the Asian fashon show in college despite my devistatingly handsome looks (ok.. im joking this one... but some of the peopel they did pick were freakin ugly).

I usually don't get a lot of discrimination to my face, but sometimes I will hear about it secondhand.

Finally,@
There are a lot of Asiaphiles who try to befirend me trying to find a way in.. or they ask... do you know places where I can meet asian chicks? When I met all of mine at school or elsewhere. There isnt like some store you can go to and just pick one out... Except maybe AX.. haha

AliBabaIncorporated

10-22-2002, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by Bethereds@Oct 22 2002, 09:06 AM
Yes, I have been discriminated against by Asians because of my appearance.

1.  People have told me that I am not really Korean, meanwhile an adoptee somehow is.

2.  I've been accused of having an Asian fetish

3.  I've been denied entry into a Korean club on the grounds that there was a reserved party that I wasnt invited to, when in acuality my friends were waiting for me inside.

4.  When  I had a Chinese girlfriend and we went to a Korean restaurant.  The waitress spoke only Korean and kept asking her things in Korean.  I was translating.  I finished the order in Korean, then the waitress turns to me and asks in broken english if I need a fork.  (ok, so this is not descrimination, but i felt bad anyway)

5.  Same chinese girlfriend, who was a total twinkie before me, dates me and discovers that its okay to be asian, then goes on an asian pride parade and dumps me for the dorkiest Taiwanese American she could find on short notice (after 2 years of dating).

6.  Never being picked for the Asian fashon show in college despite my devistatingly handsome looks (ok.. im joking this one... but some of the peopel they did pick were freakin ugly).

I usually don't get a lot of discrimination to my face, but sometimes I will hear about it secondhand.

Finally,@
There are a lot of Asiaphiles who try to befirend me trying to find a way in.. or they ask... do you know places where I can meet asian chicks?  When I met all of mine at school or elsewhere.  There isnt like some store you can go to and just pick one out... Except maybe AX.. haha
2. ABCs were giving me the same shit all through high school. One big reason I ended up with a clique of Hong Kongers.

4. No shit, it's like a mental block with some people. I'm in Hong Kong right now, happens all the time. Last night I went out to eat with a group of exchange students from Japan. None of them speak any Cantonese. Wherever we go, store clerks, waitresses, etc. try speaking to them in Cantonese. I'll cut in using Cantonese, and translate to Japanese for my friends. Store clerks, they'll just look at me and nod. Next question, they'll go try using Mandarin with my Japanese friends. I cut in again in Cantonese. Then they use broken-ass English to me, and look at me as if I'm crazy when I tell them no one can understand what the hell they're saying and please A. speak to me, not my friends, since you obviously have no common language with them, and B. use Cantonese, obviously the only language you can actually speak well. (though I leave out those little smartass bits on the end).

5. Asian Pride - the ultimate fashion accessory for Asian-Americans who have nothing Asian about them besides their face, and need a quick way to convince all the cute girlies and hot guys that "Hey, I'm Asian Too!"

Finally, about asiaphiles: yeah, white people tended to be a lot more friendly to me in high school than ABCs. I kinda figured it was the same reason you figured.

bluecollarjap

10-22-2002, 08:41 AM

i never had a lot of problems when i was younger. in germany people think you are interesting. the kids don't try to imitate asian languages like they do here in the states. there are few asian people in germany, at least where i was, so all asians are friendly to each other. when i came here, i was not use to so many asian people at my university. i was surprised to learn of the animosity one ethnic group had to another. my experience with koreans were the most difficult. korean students ignored me and i chose ignore them too. the japanese exchange students were nice. they wanted to learn english so we would all hang out sometimes. i felt uncomfortable when they would ask me how to say something in english and then converse in japanese the entire night. so after a while i just hung out with white people, and that’s the way its been for a long time. the only thing my white friends would joke about was calling me the uber axis race.

kimpossible

10-22-2002, 04:37 PM

d00ds, I am like the whitey biatch for all the fobs I live near. I always get pushed out in front to go interact with the 'American' when they need something done. And god forbid I don't like something Chinese or Japanese (depends if I'm around my blood relations or in-laws) based on just my personal preferences, 'cuz I always gotta hear in English, Japanese or Mandarin that I'm a foreigner and I don't get it. I'm good enough to get shit done when they need me but I'm nearly non-existent otherwise.

I'm tired of getting the goddamned fork at restaurants. :D

I almost got kicked out of a Korean restaurant. Okay, it was one of those places where you had to know someone who knew someone to get in, but everyone in there was a friggin fob and then I walk in. Everyone stopped to turn around and look at me. Thank christ I was able to order in both Japanese and Mandarin (the owner used both with me) because I swear they might have kicked me out. Even then, if I hadn't been with my husband and our friends, I think they would've 86'd me.

Oddly enough though, for the most part I get along easier with fobs than ABA.

Okay, that ends my li'l rant.