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kasia
09-27-2004, 11:59 PM
would you get laser hair removal? do you find your body hair to be disgusting? why? because it "just is"? ever cared to take the analysis a step further? read on :wink:

Body hair on women's underarms and legs still is considered unattractive and is linked to radical feminism - at least according to college students.
The students attached negative labels to the women with body hair - even if they were informed that the women couldn't shave for medical reasons, Susan Basow, professor of psychology at Lafayette College in Easton, Pa., said.

In the research experiment, Basow recruited 118 college students - 74 women and 44 men. Some of the subjects watched videos of a woman who was described as being either a feminist or a woman who couldn't shave body hair due to a medical condition. Then the same women, without underarm or leg hair, were evaluated by other students and the model received more favorable comments.

In a presentation at the annual meeting of the American Psychological Association in Washington, Basow said, "The woman with body hair was seen as significantly less friendly, moral and relaxed as well as more aggressive, unsociable, strong, nonconformist, dominant, assertive, independent and in better physical condition than the same woman without body hair."

"It is surprising that something such as body hair creates such an negative attitude," Basow said. Despite the depiction of the woman having a medical problem, the students still associated her as having feminist ideology, especially the aspect of feminism that insists that women's bodies are "OK as they are" and do not need to be enhanced with makeup, clothes, plastic surgery or hair removal, she said.

"The study shows that the public is generally tied into the media perception of women," said Nicolle Levy, a researcher in counseling psychology at Colorado State University at Fort Collins. "Changes in women's appearance are possibly the last place you would expect to find change."

Basow said the goal of her study was to determine if hair itself is the reason for the students' negative attitudes or if those attitudes are negative because the students perceive the woman to be a feminist. She anticipates further studies to determine the answer.

Source: www.applesforhealth.com
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yoMAMA
09-28-2004, 12:05 AM
yes, hairy woman are definitely a big turn off.

:redface:

coagulated fat
09-28-2004, 03:10 AM
I get turned on by turning guys off with it.

golden_buns
09-28-2004, 06:13 AM
It's not like body hair is a plus on guys either.
I've never heard about a girl saying she likes hairy guys, and I've also met guys who get laser hair removal.

Shall we call that sexist?

applehead
09-28-2004, 07:37 AM
yeah seriously, when i don't wax
my upper lip, all hell breaks loose.
i mean, c'mon, gimme a break.
it's just freakin hair.
don't you people have better things
to get upset about.
geeeeeeeeeez.

fossilfuel
09-28-2004, 09:20 AM
Isn't the natural lack of body hair one of the reasons Asian women are seen as ultra-feminine?

I mean generally, I've seen some Asian chicks with mustaches

On blonde girls it usually "camouflages" itself and doesn't look bad, but it feels gross when it is rubbed up against you.

golden_buns
09-29-2004, 12:35 AM
yeah seriously, when i don't wax
my upper lip, all hell breaks loose.


women with mustache turn me on

applehead
09-29-2004, 11:01 AM
women with mustache turn me on


i'm not surprised... :biggrin:

Hiroshi2
09-29-2004, 12:04 PM
*edit*

kasia
09-30-2004, 10:53 AM
i think the point of the article was that body hair on women has been demonized by its association with bra-burning radical feminists.

incidentally, conversely, radical feminism has been demonized by its association with bra-burning and body hair.

way to keep women down...? hm. ya think?

kitty
09-30-2004, 11:18 AM
isn't that pretty american-centric? i mean, in europe, body hair on women isn't considered a bad thing, right?

personally, i don't like the way my body hair makes me feel -- fuzzy and unkept.

asvenus
09-30-2004, 12:57 PM
kitty my darling wishful thinking!! in 'Europe' tis a big place girlie...body hair om women is considered hideous..unfortunately beauty standards are pretty generic all over the world!!
i used to get teased about my tash but i think thats cos most of theguys were jealous that i had more hair than them!! teehee....i constantly get abuse of family and friends for not regularly dehairing myself..hell ive even recieved negative karma on here for admitting that shit!! im split...the negative connotations not dehairing carry are quite outdated..and also im not sure whether the idea that to be a feminist or a radical you have to define yourself against any standard..isnt that pretty counter radical!!?? i personally wax when i can be arsed..although i do actually prefer being waxed cos it feels cleaner and fresher..also when i get rid of my tash and do my brows i think my face looks more defined..but either way im far too lazy and apathetic about my appearance to care either way....

missmeow
09-30-2004, 08:36 PM
The only Asian chicks I have seen who were hairy were of Japanese/Okinawan decent. Is it really a problem for you guys?

I'm like kitty, I don't like the hairy feeling, except I have come to accept the hair on my arms. For some reason, it doesn't bother me anymore. I used to be incredibly embarassed by it though.

applehead
09-30-2004, 09:11 PM
The only Asian chicks I have seen who were hairy were of Japanese/Okinawan.

so you don't know any indian women.

robotic
10-01-2004, 02:46 AM
i've never.... waxed my arms before Q_Q

.....
*imagines the look of horror on applehead's face*

but for me, getting rid of pubic/arm-pit is more of a priority ;D

i often have trouble with leg hair, but have less hair in general (compared to my brother, who is turning out to be a... werewolf >.>)
i.e. no upper-lip hair, growth of hair on eyebrows, on face, on hands etc.

applehead
10-01-2004, 06:32 AM
i've never.... waxed my arms before Q_Q

.....
*imagines the look of horror on applehead's face*
.

HAHAHA. dun be silly.
i'm a really really hairy girl.
and sometimes i let it free.
grow, hair! grow, hair!
be freeeee.

missmeow
10-01-2004, 10:41 AM
so you don't know any indian women.

Well, perhaps I should have said East Asian.

hooligan
10-01-2004, 11:44 AM
what's a little hair among friends. i'm am not afraid!

applehead
10-01-2004, 12:54 PM
what's a little hair among friends. i'm am not afraid!


see. i like you.
so ben. you won't freak out at the sight
of my hairy legs?
cool.

rice cracker
10-01-2004, 01:25 PM
When I first started shaving, it was because it seemed like the grownup thing to do. This was around 11-12. Now it just feels uncomfortable not to shave, all prickly. Plus, my armpits smell when I don't shave them. Oh, and I feel like people would judge me, seeing all this leg stubble. Like I don't take care of myself.

Irezumi Kiss
10-02-2004, 06:07 PM
i think the point of the article was that body hair on women has been demonized by its association with bra-burning radical feminists.

incidentally, conversely, radical feminism has been demonized by its association with bra-burning and body hair.

way to keep women down...? hm. ya think?
Sort of like a cosmetic oppression?

A long time ago when I was a wee little lad, I used to stay with my dad (divorced) and he had a White girlfriend at the time. Once, I got in bed between them and when my leg touched hers, I felt gorilla legs and I was mortified. They laffed at my ass as I recoiled in horror, but at that age, I absolutely believed that women weren't supposed to have hair as men do and thought it went against the "order" of things.

So, it's amazing to see how one becomes conditioned to what you're expected to be.

Now, as an adult, I really don't care if you shave or not. Arm hair is whatever, even kinda cute to me personally. Underarms maybe for when you have to wear open arm dresses. Although shaving for legs...I guess it just looks better? I dunno.

It's an aesthetic but it's also ingrained into the culture of appearances, of fashion. Does it truly oppress? If you take time out of the day or night to shave your body are you doing it for self or because it's expected of you? Both? Does it have to be a negative if it makes you feel better about your self, regardless if it's an expectation? Are you any less of a woman for having hairy gams and pits? Who made the rules on why you should do the things you do as a woman and who's to say it can't be made differently? If you're Martha Stewart you move in a certain world of expectations and appearances and if you're Karen O it's a totally different world, y'know?