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Cipherous
09-14-2004, 02:35 PM
BEIJING (Reuters) - China executed four people, including employees of two of its Big Four state-owned banks, for fraud totaling $15 million, the state Xinhua news agency said Tuesday.

The executions occurred in the midst a high-profile government campaign against financial crime. They followed a string of arrests in white-collar crime as China prepares to sell shares publicly in its big banks.

The latest cases involved China Construction Bank, due to raise up to $10 billion in an IPO next year; and Bank of China, which is moving towards an IPO worth up to $4 billion.

One of those executed was Wang Liming, a former accounting officer at China Construction Bank in the central province of Henan, who worked with others to steal 20 million yuan ($2.4 million) from the bank using fraudulent papers, Xinhua said in a report on its Web site: (www.xinhuanet.com). An accomplice, Miao Ping, was also executed.

Another Construction Bank employee, Wang Xiang, was executed for taking 20 million yuan from the bank in an unrelated case.

Liang Shihan, an official at the Bank of China's branch in the southern city of Zhuhai, was executed for helping cheat his bank out of $10.3 million, Xinhua said.

Xinhua did not say how the four were killed. China, which executes more criminals than the rest of the world combined, usually puts inmates to death with a gunshot to the back of the head but has recently experimented with lethal injections.

The debt-laden state-owned banks have been involved in other fraud scandals as Beijing tries to clean them up ahead of 2007, when the sector begins to privatize and opens fully to foreign rivals as part of pledges made to the World Trade Organization.


In February, China arrested Liu Jinbao, former chief of the Bank of China's Hong Kong branch, for corruption. Last December, Wang Xuebing, former head of the Construction Bank, was sentenced to 12 years in prison for taking bribes.

The government injected a combined $45 billion into the Construction Bank and Bank of China last year as part of a pilot scheme to reform the sector and prepare for the IPOs.

The precise number of people executed for all crimes in China is a state secret. Reports range from 5,000 to 10,000 a year, many for murder, but they have also been killed for corruption and crimes as minor as bottom-pinching.

Legal experts have proposed what they call a "kill fewer, kill carefully" policy for nonviolent crimes.



Ouch! Kenneth Lay is lucky Enron isn't stationed in China

:tongue:

SunWuKong
09-14-2004, 02:39 PM
now when they start executing corrupt high level government officials, i'd start cheering.

(just kidding. executions are no cheering matter.)

Cipherous
09-14-2004, 02:48 PM
One paragraph from the article that really stood out was:

The precise number of people executed for all crimes in China is a state secret. Reports range from 5,000 to 10,000 a year, many for murder, but they have also been killed for corruption and crimes as minor as bottom-pinching.


Minor as bottom pinching? I guess we won't be seeing girls gone wild in China videos anytime soon.

SunWuKong
09-14-2004, 02:54 PM
Minor as bottom pinching? I guess we won't be seeing girls gone wild in China videos anytime soon.

hah! i don't know how accurate that could possibly be. maybe some guy pinched the butt of some high level official's daughter.

younggiftedandblack
09-14-2004, 07:07 PM
I'm all executions if you do something like take anothers life, but this right is waay out there. Damn I wonder if we could get away with something like that here in America? Can you just picture Martha Stewart strapped down with a lethal injection in her arm??

A.R.A.M.
09-14-2004, 08:12 PM
I'm all executions if you do something like take anothers life, but this right is waay out there. Damn I wonder if we could get away with something like that here in America? Can you just picture Martha Stewart strapped down with a lethal injection in her arm??

I think many would like some of Enron's former executives to meet such a fate. They didn't kill, but they sure destroyed many peoples' lives.

yoMAMA
09-14-2004, 10:36 PM
I would like to see more executions of higher level crooks.

Other than that....no beef with it.

:biggrin:

Cipherous
09-14-2004, 11:03 PM
I'm all executions if you do something like take anothers life, but this right is waay out there. Damn I wonder if we could get away with something like that here in America? Can you just picture Martha Stewart strapped down with a lethal injection in her arm??

I think they use a bullet instead or they hang you.

truMp
09-15-2004, 12:10 AM
Is this a public execution? with China, I wouldn't know.

man that's some harsh stuff, I still don't think corruption should necessarily equate to taking away someone's live. It would have to depend on the type and degree of corruption for me to say whether or not someone should be executed; I would much rather prefer life imprisonment. Although with China, I would assume that their jail system must be packed or what not because of the huge population they have over there.

I really don't like the ideas of execution for corruption. mm.

SunWuKong
09-15-2004, 08:46 AM
I think they use a bullet instead or they hang you.

they use a bullet and send a bill to the executed's family for the bullet. (seriously)

the thing i don't like about the death penalty in countries like China and Japan is that their courts have very high rates of convictions. sure, maybe the police and courts are just doing very good jobs in catching mostly just the people who in fact are guilty, but we don't know that for sure.

yoMAMA
09-15-2004, 08:51 AM
they use a bullet and send a bill to the executed's family for the bullet. (seriously)

the thing i don't like about the death penalty in countries like China and Japan is that their courts have very high rates of convictions. sure, maybe the police and courts are just doing very good jobs in catching mostly just the people who in fact are guilty, but we don't know that for sure.

Japan has death penalty, but I heard it takes forever to execute them. The legal system just drags it on and on.

I heard a man was hanged in Japan [for murder] last year after 10 years of appeal.

raacluse
09-15-2004, 11:29 AM
Speaking of executing bankers in China and executions in Japan, I'm reminded of an article I read about the Japanese banking debacle that emerged in the 90s.

The article noted 2 or 3 deaths of Japanese banking vp's in Japan in recent years. One was done by the yakuza and the others were mysterious.

As in China, Japanese banks made many loans that turned sour. (In the latter case, the loan problem came to a head when the Japanese economic bubble burst.)
In some instances, loans were made to businesses owned by the yakuza.

So how do you collect from the yakuza?

I guess one or more banking executives tried, and paid for it with their life/lives.