Hu Bing

[krome]

Hu Bing (http://www.hu-bing.com/) is a ~6'5" mainland Chinese model/actor. He appears in ads globally - like this top one in Amsterdam - everywhere but the US. Where instead we prefer representing AMs with William Hung's due to our more "discriminating sensibilities." :rolleyes:
http://members.ams.chello.nl/pvanscha/fotos/esprit1a.jpg
http://image.muzi.com/pfm_image/100139018281652.jpghttp://image.muzi.com/pfm_image/100138938226080.jpg
http://www.gld168.com/user/hubingfoto/%B3%DA%AF%BA%AB%C3%BDt/bing18.jpg

[rice cracker]

He's saxy. Wu Bing, not William Hung.

[hooligan]

he looks pretty ... white, but not bad looking at all.

[kitty]

hubba hubba <3

he does look kinda white though.

[yoMAMA]

OMG!

i went to his website.....

and the horror ensues, :eek:

his favorite singer is...

michael bolton! :tongue:

[applehead]

he looks good all made up,
but that last picture has him looking
like a total fob.

[truMp]

he looks good all made up,
but that last picture has him looking
like a total fob.

uh..he's from mainland china

[applehead]

so?

[tommyhtown]

holllaa! photo roll call (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=18187)

krome, shouldn't you post all your pics in that thread?

[krome]

holllaa! photo roll call (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=18187)
krome, shouldn't you post all your pics in that thread?
Um, sure, that looks "just like" me!*





* Plus 6" and $600,000 worth of plastic surgery - conservatively speaking.

[Tao]

why is he in an ad in amsterdam? is there a heavy asian population there?

and he doesn't look white, my dad sorta looks like that

[krome]

why is he in an ad in amsterdam? is there a heavy asian population there?
See how brainwashed you are here in the US?

BECAUSE IN OTHER COUNTRIES, AMs are actually treated more like HUMAN BEINGS - even possibly ATTRACTIVE MEN, regardless of race! THAT is the NORM, not like here where we're treated like the butt of every racial joke. And THIS is the whole point of this thread! They don't "need" a huge Asian population for an AM to appear in an ad. He can appeal to non-Asians as well! Whereas here, AMs are not even used to appeal to Asians...much less anyone else.

William Hung would never get on TV in Asia or EU - only here. Hu Bin would never get on TV here - only in Asia or EU. Because they both represent the respective stereotypes of AMs in these different countries. And, see thhe difference?

[applehead]

well. krome. first of all. esprit isn't popular anymore
in the united states. hence, you won't see much ads here
for that company.
second esprit is known to use a lot of models
of different ethnicity.
kinda like bennetton.
have you seen any bennetton ads?

[krome]

Well, even in its heyday here, I don't recall seeing any (or much) AMs in their ads. Same with Bennetton. Granted, my memory sux and I never paid too much attention to either, tho...

Point being, the climate is multiple times friendler towards AMs in EU than here. Fact.

[Deadpool]

well. krome. first of all. esprit isn't popular anymore
in the united states. hence, you won't see much ads here
for that company.
second esprit is known to use a lot of models
of different ethnicity.

THats probably why its not popular there anymore.
:wink:

[SunWuKong]

he doesn't look white to me.

[ellsworth81]

he has a funny name

[deez nuts]

he don't look white to me either.

[moJo]

he's hot in that esprit ad.

[VV o n g B a]

if he was chosen as a model b/c he looked more white, is that a problem? i know some members dislike asians being chosen for roles when they look "too asian." i.e. lucy liu's pronounced asian eyes. we can't have it both ways.

[yoMAMA]

We need william huang.... :rolleyes:

[krome]

Shyt, someone just first ask a FOB if he's part-white or not. Then we can all debate it.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Well most models from around the world have features that are supposedly more common among 'Caucasians' like in the eyes or having more prominent or longer noses or whatever. Doesn't really mean that he looks white tho.

[AngryABCGirl]

Well, even in its heyday here, I don't recall seeing any (or much) AMs in their ads. Same with Bennetton. Granted, my memory sux and I never paid too much attention to either, tho...

Point being, the climate is multiple times friendler towards AMs in EU than here. Fact.

What? Europe? Are you serious? I seriously see more AF with AM in Europe than I've ever had anywhere. Plus Amsterdam does have quite a sizable Asian population, sorry to burst anyone's bubble. Hu Bing is very hot though, and very Chinese looking.

[deez nuts]

he looks pretty ... white, but not bad looking at all.

says the guy that skateboards.

that's like totally ironic, duuuuuuuude.

[krome]

What? Europe? Are you serious? I seriously see more AF with AM in Europe than I've ever had anywhere. Plus Amsterdam does have quite a sizable Asian population, sorry to burst anyone's bubble. Hu Bing is very hot though, and very Chinese looking.
Exactly - less single AMs in EU - more desired by AFs and everyone else.

[Tao]

Exactly - less single AMs in EU - more desired by AFs and everyone else.

why don't you just move there, seems like your mind is made up

[krome]

why don't you just move there, seems like your mind is made up
That would be a fantasy come true in many ways...

Something I may well be looking into more, actually.

[AngryABCGirl]

Exactly - less single AMs in EU - more desired by AFs and everyone else.

On man I totally misstyped, I mean I've seen more AF/WM couples in the EU than anywhere else in the world, it actually really bothers me and I wanna slap some of these women. If emasculation is your nightmare, than the EU is your hell. I LIVE in the EU now, I have to say, racially things are 10X worse as they are in America. I have gotten way more racial slurs and harassment thrown as me as well as racially based catcalls of "Ay Guapa China!" than I could ever imagine tolerating in the US. If people tried to pull some of the ching chong shit they do in say London in LA, they'd have 10 guys beating them down with baseball bats.

The EU is the last place to look for racial tolerance and acceptance.

Plus the AM, particulary the those born in Europe act like the esmasculated William Hungs they have been influenced to be by the media, the only ones who aren't are recent immigrants who aren't influenced by cultural conceptions of Eurocentric thought. Everytime I go out to a bar or a club there are many AF and no AM to be found anywhere, rampant Asiaphilia and all that shit. The only time I got to have fun and party with an AM was with another Asian-American. European Asians are way behind us in what we have, I honestly appreciate the US and particulary California 100x more now.

That billboard is probably only in Amsterdam because Amsterdam has a lot of Asians, particulary Chinese. Amsterdam and Holland(The Netherlands) are also an anomaly from the rest of the EU because of their ultraliberal policies for tolerance, but still more AF/WM couples there.

[krome]

^ Are you serious? Where do you live - London? I did notice some semblances of the American-style racial food chain (where AMs are the bottom-feeders) in a few places - like Paris. But overall my limited experience in the EU was like out of Bizarro world it was so flipped.

Do note that I'm comparing to TX, not Kali though - which can be more open to AMs in many cities.

Basically, I had several hot, fun women connecting with me, one even first to buy me a drink (NEVER happened in US). I didn't feel "invisible" and pre-written off like I often do here. Many women took note of me and showed interest singling me out of a crowd.* Honestly, I briefly met more incredible girls in a few weeks there than 3 decades here. Truth.

* The last time I experienced this was out clubbin' in L.A. But, L.A. is not representative of the rest of the US.

As far as the AM/WF vs AF/WM ratios there - I really couldn't say as my "sampling" was far too small.

PS - I think Hu Bing is 6'1", not 6'5", and from Hangzhou, according to his profile.

[Tao]

^ Are you serious? Where do you live - London? I did notice some semblances of the American-style racial food chain (where AMs are the bottom-feeders) in a few places - like Paris. But overall my limited experience in the EU was like out of Bizarro world it was so flipped.

Do note that I'm comparing to TX, not Kali though - which can be more open to AMs in many cities.

Basically, I had several hot, fun women connecting with me, one even first to buy me a drink (NEVER happened in US). I didn't feel "invisible" and pre-written off like I often do here. Many women took note of me and showed interest singling me out of a crowd.* Honestly, I briefly met more incredible girls in a few weeks there than 3 decades here. Truth.

* The last time I experienced this was out clubbin' in L.A. But, L.A. is not representative of the rest of the US.

As far as the AM/WF vs AF/WM ratios there - I really couldn't say as my "sampling" was far too small.

there goes your dreams :(
......getting laid, ah, life's quest

On man I totally misstyped, I mean I've seen more AF/WM couples in the EU than anywhere else in the world, it actually really bothers me and I wanna slap some of these women. If emasculation is your nightmare, than the EU is your hell. I LIVE in the EU now, I have to say, racially things are 10X worse as they are in America. I have gotten way more racial slurs and harassment thrown as me as well as racially based catcalls of "Ay Guapa China!" than I could ever imagine tolerating in the US. If people tried to pull some of the ching chong shit they do in say London in LA, they'd have 10 guys beating them down with baseball bats.

The EU is the last place to look for racial tolerance and acceptance.

Plus the AM, particulary the those born in Europe act like the esmasculated William Hungs they have been influenced to be by the media, the only ones who aren't are recent immigrants who aren't influenced by cultural conceptions of Eurocentric thought. Everytime I go out to a bar or a club there are many AF and no AM to be found anywhere, rampant Asiaphilia and all that shit. The only time I got to have fun and party with an AM was with another Asian-American. European Asians are way behind us in what we have, I honestly appreciate the US and particulary California 100x more now.

That billboard is probably only in Amsterdam because Amsterdam has a lot of Asians, particulary Chinese. Amsterdam and Holland(The Netherlands) are also an anomaly from the rest of the EU because of their ultraliberal policies for tolerance, but still more AF/WM couples there.

yeah i was sorta skeptical about them being more accepting of asian males there, or asians in general. i say this cause my mom's friend, she went to europe for a honeymoon, and the tour guides in britain totally ignored them and instead paid special attention to these danish tourists.

[kitty]

krome, isn't that fairly anecdotal? i mean, maybe you were hanging out at the slutty women's bars in europe?

either way, however, i'm not sure how seeing one ad of an asian male in amsterdam is any indication of great tolerance or less emasculation. remember, banzai came out of europe.

[krome]

there goes your dreams :(
......getting laid, ah, life's quest

yeah i was sorta skeptical about there being more accepting of asian males there, or asians in general. i say this cause my mom's friend, she went to europe for a honeymoon, and the tour guides in britain totally ignored them and instead paid special attention to these danish tourists.
edit: removied -kitty It was a purposely limited response to fit the limited parameters of her question. :rolleyes:

Again, you've never been there. I have - twice. It just really annoys me when people try to trump others on topics they know jack about. It seems that type of ignorant arrogance is inbred in this country. Can you fathom that some things you can't really understand until you've experienced them? What's next - virgins giving seminars on s*x? :rolleyes: Now thx for playing - come back later when you get some real cred.

krome, isn't that fairly anecdotal? i mean, maybe you were hanging out at the slutty women's bars in europe?

either way, however, i'm not sure how seeing one ad of an asian male in amsterdam is any indication of great tolerance or less emasculation. remember, banzai came out of europe.
True, but I've had my type of experience confirmed and verified by many other AMs (and men in general) as well. AngryABCGirl's counterstory is about the first I've heard, yet. Which again - I can as see being the case in a few "worldly" cities - perhaps Paris and London, for example. That's why I'm guessing she's in London, maybe?

I think the way AMs are treated shows tolerance in itself. It's not even necessarily symbolic, but in fact a direct measure of tolerance. Also in Amsterdam, I noticed a lot of BF/WMs as well - another extremely rare "nontraditional" pairing here - yet from what I observed about on an equal level as BM/WFs there. And, we're talking extremely dark BFs too - not Alicia Keys or Beyonce-type honeydips.

And I think Banzai started out in Japan, no?

[AngryABCGirl]

krome, isn't that fairly anecdotal? i mean, maybe you were hanging out at the slutty women's bars in europe?

either way, however, i'm not sure how seeing one ad of an asian male in amsterdam is any indication of great tolerance or less emasculation. remember, banzai came out of europe.

Women in Europe are generally more forward than women in America, kinda admire them for that actually instead of the 'flowers waiting to be plucked' attitude we tend to have in America. Yeah but at the same time they have that 'man-huntin' let's get laid attitude' guys have in America. The fact that you were a tourist probably got you different treatment too. The way tourists are regarded, especially those with an American accent even if Asian, are quite different than the way (Asian) locals are treated.

That ad probably had to do with generating more sales from their stores in Amsterdam from the Chinese and other Asians that live there than anything else.

[kitty]

Banzai became a cult hit in Britain. (http://www.tvtome.com/Banzai/)

pedestrian responses such as 'sthu' will not be tolerated and have been removed because they do not further this discussion. Similarly, Tao, please keep things serious -- if you disagree with krome, let's not be snarky.

Krome, saying "well, I've been there and you haven't" hardly proves anything since, again, we're speaking anecdotally. Thus, can you point to any REAL evidence that there is less emascualtion of the AM in Europe? I question your logic specifically because there has been an increasing trend of showing AMs in clothing ads in America, as well. Levi's, American Eagle, etc.

Women in Europe are generally more forward than women in America, kinda admire them for that actually instead of the 'flowers waiting to be plucked' attitude we tend to have in America. Yeah but at the same time they have that 'man-huntin' let's get laid attitude' guys have in America. The fact that you were a tourist probably got you different treatment too. The way tourists are regarded, especially those with an American accent even if Asian, are quite different than the way (Asian) locals are treated.

That ad probably had to do with generating more sales from their stores in Amsterdam from the Chinese and other Asians that live there than anything else.

gotta agree with that assessment of european women. in america, it's usually taboo for women to buy drinks or be at all forward or explicit about sexual interest towards a guy, regardless of their gender. i don't think WM are having drinks bought for them any more than AMs in America, so having a girl buy you a drink in Europe is hardly any indication of anything, krome.

[Mr.Lum]

The fact that you were a tourist probably got you different treatment too. The way tourists are regarded, especially those with an American accent even if Asian, are quite different than the way (Asian) locals are treated.


Hmm. Care to elaborate on that? My cusin went to France this summer to visit some relatives, he said it is pretty bad for Arabs but the Chinese seem to be doing well and living it up.(he is Arab/Chinese btw)

[krome]

Kitty - No, most of my views on the EU are personally anecdotal not statisical - but then again, my own personal experience and how I'M treated is of more specific import to me for my quality of life, right?

And the more "liberated" attitudes of EU women is definitely a plus - for ALL men, yes. Gender relations there do simply seem to be far healthier and less hostile than the perpetual "S*x In The City" battleground here.

Again, Banzai was a hit in Britain - of which London may have some American-like tendencies. Let's not forget how Blair is Bush's lone nutrider over there. I actually had good experiences in the UK - but more Ireland, Scotland and Wales, I suppose. They all kinda hate England due to past history, too. Point being, the racial climate in London (not that I personally found it noticeably horrid) is not necessarily representative of the rest of the EU - perhaps more an exception to the rule, if anything...

[Mr.Lum]

actually had good experiences in the UK - but more Ireland, Scotland and Wales, I suppose

I have heard from numerous Asian americans and blacks that Ireland is racist as fuck.

[SunWuKong]

The way tourists are regarded, especially those with an American accent even if Asian, are quite different than the way (Asian) locals are treated.

a good point. Asian American friends that have visited Europe tell me that they're just regarded as American over there. my European friends living in HK also tend to regard me more as American because i speak fluent English and do gwailo stuff with them when i hang out with them.

[AngryABCGirl]

Hmm. Care to elaborate on that? My cusin went to France this summer to visit some relatives, he said it is pretty bad for Arabs but the Chinese seem to be doing well and living it up.(he is Arab/Chinese btw)

I got a lot of Ching chong remarks and racially based catcalls thrown at me (pretty much all over England), got stopped continually with only other people of color at metro stops to check tickets(this was in Czech Republic), Filipina friend (who does look Chinese enough) got trash thrown at her and flicked off on public bus, dirty looks abound. Restaurant and other service personnel would regularly skip or over me when I was only with Asians (heard about this from a lot of other Asian students as well) but suddenly become perfectly fine when the American accents come out.

Felt really bad for anyone with an Asian accent cause people would just disregard them and brush them over. I think there's a lot of sentiment that Asians (Chinese and South Asians in England) and Eastern Europeans as well, are "invading housing" as one British woman I spoke with and taking jobs for low wages. I get treated a lot better when I make myself known by speaking with an American accent rather than when I didn't say anything and was just assumed to be a Chinese immigrant and ignored at best and had slurs said to me at worse. Even so, there's a definite contrast to the way White American students are treated then the Asian/African/Latino/-American students are treated and welcomed in the UK as well as with Eastern Europeans. While the EU has been good at promoting European harmony, it's got a long way to go before it can be good at accepting non-White peoples.

I don't know much about France, I've only gone to Paris for a really one day one night trip, but I could tell things were tense between different Arab groups and French, but they weren't completed segregated as far as I could tell. I saw/heard a few Hmong kids, guessing resettled refugees on the metro walk by me, but otherwise didn't interact with other East Asians so I don't know really know. I was an obvious tourist, but the Parisians were disturbingly rude, but apparently they are rude to everyone, so I don't know if anything was racially based or not. Supposedly France is the worse country to be in if you're not White, and from the impressions I got, I could believe it.

Oh yeah... Hu Bing is hot.... trying to stay on topic.

[SunWuKong]

London may have some American-like tendencies.

oh my. many Brits will not agree that they have tendencies like the Yanks.

[krome]

^^ You may be right about Czech Republic too - I did not feel a particularly warm vibe there (nor hostile either - just not warm).

So, it seems in these places you'll get treated better if you're Americanized, but worse if you appear to be a FOB then? Hmm, same as the US or even China... :eek:

Also, perhaps tourists may get viewed as fun people to hang with - but not competing for jobs, housing, etc?

Still, I remember meeting some French kids in a club in Nice, we all started talking and hung out the whole night. They actually said they liked us cuz we were talkative and not "snobby" like some of the other locals who wouldn't mingle around, lol. Rarely do I have those types of random interactions here, Stateside. I never had racial slurs hurled at me or anything (but perhaps might have, given more time?).

I'm sure N. Ireland is racist as fvck, not sure about the other regions. I didn't have any problems - but then again I was never really alone thru Ireland.

Well, I know many Brits do hate Bush (and 50 Cent recently got heckled/booed there, lmao!) - but point remains that as a country - Blair is basically the EU's lone supporter of Bush. That does say something about that country - just like how Bush getting elected here does about the US.

[AngryABCGirl]

oh my. many Brits will not agree that they have tendencies like the Yanks.

Wow, they don't, I actually miss the way Americans behave in comparsion to Brits. If there weren't so many Chinese people here, homesickness could probably kill me. They're probably more similar to Americans than any other European nation, but they're an anomaly in terms of European integration anyway. But the real London, I suppose, is far from American and more racially tolerant than the rest of Britain though, except maybe with some pockets in the bigger cities like Manchester or Birmingham. But venturing out into England's small towns with other Chinese people and not speaking English doesn't get good reception.

I hear Ireland is racist as fuck, hands down consensus from everyone, Americans and Brits, Whites and non-Whites alike, but I've heard good things about Wales and Scotland and I enjoyed visiting Scotland and the Scottish more than the Brits, but that might just because they're more extroverted thn the British and I'm use to that. And of course the niceness after the American accent is still there.

The Scots and Welsh might just be nicer because they don't have as many immigrants and are generally living in better conditions than those in Southern England and I'm guessing Ireland where the brunt of the people live in packed cities and older housing Americans could consider "ghetto"(I even consider my housing ghetto, some of these places remind me of really old dumpy apts in Taiwan). In contrast I seriously thought I was in the San Fernando Valley somewhere when I passed by the suburbs in Edinburgh. I think that makes a big difference if the people aren't living in great places to begin with (ie France) and then have large immigrant populations compete for housing.

And that generally Europeans haven't exactly had a culture of acceptance for non-White peoples.