NBC olympics anti-korean sentiment?

[stickyrice]

Did you hear the announcer attack the Korean gymnast in the hi-bar competition?

It was during the men's individual finals and the personal attack and anti-korean remarks by announcer was amazing!

Any one know the name of the announcer? It wasn't the ex-gymnast or the female announcer. It was the other male announcer.

NBC just plain sucks for broadcasting such blatant commentary and it wasn't even live! :

[hooligan]

links please? welcome to yw by the way.

[stickyrice]

Oh, it should be on air in a hour or two on the west coast.

links please? welcome to yw by the way.
Hi, I don't know if the transcripts are available online.

[yoMAMA]

you mean the guy that was doing color commentary?

personally i did not watch it, but i thought from the previous event the ex gymnast and the female [i think she was a gymnast as well] were pretty fair and knowledgable in their commentary.

[stickyrice]

Yes, those two seemed rational and cool-headed, but the other guy was a joke.

Perhaps I'm being too sensitive, so I would like to get some other opinions.

[thaite]

So, what did he say?

[applehead]

Did you hear the announcer attack the Korean gymnast in the hi-bar competition?

It was during the men's individual finals and the personal attack and anti-korean remarks by announcer was amazing!

Any one know the name of the announcer? It wasn't the ex-gymnast or the female announcer. It was the other male announcer.

NBC just plain sucks for broadcasting such blatant commentary and it wasn't even live! :

yeah. i was getting so pissed off hearing that shit
tonight. and i'd also like to know what his name
was so i can fire off a complaint.
he was basically blaming the korean gymnast for
creating the "controversy" his tone was
" you lost the gold, get over it and don't make such a big deal."
and when tae young's performance was over he goes on to comment
that paul hamm has never made mistakes
on his routines like tae young.

i don't think it was racist since he
is speaking to an american audience
and he's assuming we're all rooting for american
players (psheesh) but it was totally inappropriate and highly unprofessional.

[yoMAMA]

yeah. i was getting so pissed off hearing that shit
tonight. and i'd also like to know what his name
was so i can fire off a complaint.
he was basically blaming the korean gymnast for
creating the "controversy" his tone was
" you lost the gold, get over it and don't make such a big deal."
and when tae young's performance was over he goes on to comment
that paul hamm has never made mistakes
on his routines like tae young.

i don't think it was racist since he
is speaking to an american audience
and he's assuming we're all rooting for american
players (psheesh) but it was totally inappropriate and highly unprofessional.

I heard the USA gymnastic and their Korean couterparts may workout a deal and give the Korean dude another gold medal.

That'd be sweet....correct the injustice while leaves everyone somewhat satisfied.

[stickyrice]

Ok, just got back from some fresh air and I've gained some persceptive.

It may not have been anti-korean sentiments, but it was an incredible personal attack on the korean gymnast for questioning the judging which may have lead to the bronze medal instead of the gold in the men's all-around. The person attacked and accused the gymnast for protesting the judging and makin the american gymnast feel sad by taking the lustre away from the gold medal.

It went something like;

"here is the korean gymnast...

HE was the ONE...

The ONE that started all this controversy...

The ONE that is taking away the...etc"

Right before the routine, he commented that it was time for the korean gymnast to prove himself (or shut-up).

After the gymnast faultered, he said that he never saw Paul Hamm mess-up like that.

The color commentator expressed incredible hubris and vendetta towards the korean gymnast, in my opinion.

[yoMAMA]

Ok, just got back from some fresh air and I've gained some persceptive.

It may not have been anti-korean sentiments, but it was an incredible personal attack on the korean gymnast for questioning the judging which may have lead to the bronze medal instead of the gold in the men's all-around. The person attacked and accused the gymnast for protesting the judging and makin the american gymnast feel sad by taking the lustre away from the gold medal.

It went something like;

"here is the korean gymnast...

HE was the ONE...

The ONE that started all this controversy...

The ONE that is taking away the...etc"

Right before the routine, he commented that it was time for the korean gymnast to prove himself (or shut-up).

After the gymnast faultered, he said that he never saw Paul Hamm mess-up like that.

The color commentator expressed incredible hubris and vendetta towards the korean gymnast, in my opinion.

Wow, that was really unprofessional for him to say that.

:mad:

[applehead]

well, now they're saying that the korean gymnast would
have gotten the bronze anyway even with
the correct starting point since he had a deduction
for an extra move he wasn't supposed to do
but still. don't blame him for at least trying to
get what he feels like he deserves.
he only prepared for this moment his whole life.

i'm really enjoying the olympics this year.
i didn't really like it when i was younger but
i love watching it now.
but it seems so competitive now and the olympic
spirit seems to be slowly disappearing.

Ok, just got back from some fresh air and I've gained some persceptive.

It may not have been anti-korean sentiments, but it was an incredible personal attack on the korean gymnast for questioning the judging which may have lead to the bronze medal instead of the gold in the men's all-around. The person attacked and accused the gymnast for protesting the judging and makin the american gymnast feel sad by taking the lustre away from the gold medal.

It went something like;

"here is the korean gymnast...

HE was the ONE...

The ONE that started all this controversy...

The ONE that is taking away the...etc"

Right before the routine, he commented that it was time for the korean gymnast to prove himself (or shut-up).

After the gymnast faultered, he said that he never saw Paul Hamm mess-up like that.

The color commentator expressed incredible hubris and vendetta towards the korean gymnast, in my opinion.

he was taking it way too personally
and was incredibly malicious.

[Craig]

NBC’s signature announce teams return in gymnastics, swimming and track and field. Following is a partial rundown, sport-by-sport. A complete roster is attached.

· GYMNASTICS: Play-by-play announcer Al Trautwig is once again joined by Olympic gold medalist Tim Daggett and Elfi Schlegel, who have provided analysis on NBC’s Olympic gymnastics coverage since the 1992 Barcelona Games..

[stickyrice]

The amount of nationalistic coverage is overwhelming. Does NBC not realize that the U.S. is the home to the second largest population of so many nationalities outside of their own political boundaries?

For the next Olympics, we need a separate network to cover all the other countries too.

I wish I knew the name of that color commentator, I would write a letter(s)! errrrgh!

So unprofessional, but then again I don't know if they have to abide by any standards.

[applehead]

thanks for that quote craig.
it was Al Trautwig who put his foot in his mouth.

[Faithless]

I personally don't think that the Koreans should have had to protest.

There seems to have been a fundemental error with the point system that should have been corrected for the purpose of doing what was right.

What the Olympic committee seems to say was, "we totally fucked up, but didn't catch us and we're not changing shit, so fuck you."

The Koreans have got a right to be pissed about this and carrying on the controversy.

[applehead]

and paul hamm clearly does not show olympic
spirit by refusing to even do anything about it.
it seems selfish and ungracious. or something.

[stickyrice]

Al Trautwig --- you suck!

I wonder how to get audio or video for this...transcripts just wouldn't convey the malice tone and cadence of this attack.

[lethal]

After the gymnast faultered, he said that he never saw Paul Hamm mess-up like that. Talking about the same Paul Hamm who fell on his ass doing the vault?

[Chester]

Talking about the same Paul Hamm who fell on his ass doing the vault? Yeah, that Paul Hamm. The one who also sucked it up and utterly rocked his last two exercises.

Personally, I think Hamm should have either kept his mouth shut or should've stayed completely neutral by simply stating that his concern isn't what has passed, but the competitions he is in the midst of. To publicly lobby to remain as the sole gold medalist comes off as petty and un-"Olympic."

That said, he has a point: if you want to go back and make corrections and go all the way back to not only re-evaluate the Korean gymnast's exercise difficultly level but also his routine itself, the guy would've still been third place.

[nola]

Al Trautwig said something like Paul Hamm did not mess up like that when the Korean guy messed up his finals high bar routine.

[SunWuKong]

and paul hamm clearly does not show olympic
spirit by refusing to even do anything about it.
it seems selfish and ungracious. or something.

typical American competitiveness gone overboard. there's a difference between confidence and arrogance.

Talking about the same Paul Hamm who fell on his ass doing the vault?

and that's exactly why i don't think he should have gotten the gold, even though the rules of the games totally allow for it. the idea that he could mess up so badly and then go on to win gold is just kind of stupid to me. they should have taken off more points for that mess-up.

[Tao]

and that's exactly why i don't think he should have gotten the gold, even though the rules of the games totally allow for it. the idea that he could mess up so badly and then go on to win gold is just kind of stupid to me. they should have taken off more points for that mess-up.
yeah seriously, after falling on his ass, he stll got a 9.1 something, i mean silver maybe, but getting gold for falling on his ass? please

[Banana]

and that's exactly why i don't think he should have gotten the gold, even though the rules of the games totally allow for it. the idea that he could mess up so badly and then go on to win gold is just kind of stupid to me. they should have taken off more points for that mess-up.

I completely and absolutly agree. If you screw up that badly, you should be automatically disqualified.

[deez nuts]

you koreans are full of drama in the olympics. first the roy jones jr debacle, then that speed skating debacle and now this. buncha trouble makers.

[Banana]

http://www.usanetwork.com/sports/iditarod/al.trautwig.html

[NotAsian]

May I ask what a "colour commentator" is? Whatever they are, I don't think we have them in Britain.

Speaking of commentary, the commentary over here in the mainstream events has been appalling. For example, there was a women's 800m (or something) event where a British athlete took gold, and the commentators were doing nothing but cheering her on! It was a disgrace, and on the BBC too :( We expect our commentators to be professional and impartial, and they appear to have done away with all that this year. (Euro 2004 was the same as well)

Still, judging by your reactions, it doesn't seem to be as extreme as what you're getting in the States.

[Banana]

Anyone that disagrees with the US is assbackwards, whiny, or a heretic to God.

[Chester]

I don't get all this "unprofessionalism" stuff. They're sportscasters...broadcasting sports. E.g., this stuff is only as important as you want to let it be. It's not like they're covering a presidential debate and yelling "Boo-Ya!" every time their favorite candidate makes a good point. It's fucking sports. Homerism is part and parcel to sports broadcasting. Always has, always will.

Call me presumptuous, but I can't imagine the Korean coverage is terribly balanced either -- or that of any other country, for that matter.

you koreans are full of drama in the olympics. first the roy jones jr debacle, then that speed skating debacle and now this. buncha trouble makers. Seriously. The Koreans can take this all as part of the payback for the Roy Jones Jr. boxing match. That was an outrageous, outright theft and I say it still hasn't been made up by these last two strict interpretations of technical rules.

I can't wait for some Korean national soccer team player to celebrate scoring a goal by pretending to be doing a gymnastics parallel bar routine.

[Kuchana]

Anyone that disagrees with the US is assbackwards, whiny, or a heretic to God.

That's an overgeneralization statement to make. It just so happened that one commentator made an inappropriate comment while the others were quite fair I believe in what they said.

[Banana]

Of course it's an overgeneralization. It was meant to be.

To be honest, with the combination of sports announcers, comments from the public and internet discussion I've seen and heard; it's partly true.

What's funny is that when I brought up the Roy Jones Jr fight, they said that was warrented for complains but Hamm's situation is not.

[Kuchana]

Of course it's an overgeneralization. It was meant to be.

To be honest, with the combination of sports announcers, comments from the public and internet discussion I've seen and heard; it's partly true.

What's funny is that when I brought up the Roy Jones Jr fight, they said that was warrented for complains but Hamm's situation is not.

From what I've seen and heard from the sports announcers and comments from the public, it doesn't seem to me that the overgeneralization is partly true. To be fair, I think the U.S. has been for the most part with the exception of Hamm and Trautwig, has been of good conduct. But then it's what I've been exposed to.

Ok refresh my memory. What was the big deal again about the Roy Jones Jr fight?

[applehead]

you koreans are full of drama in the olympics. first the roy jones jr debacle, then that speed skating debacle and now this. buncha trouble makers.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH
shaddup.
the speed skating incident always makes me laugh.

Talking about the same Paul Hamm who fell on his ass doing the vault?

and that's exactly why i don't think he should have gotten the gold, even though the rules of the games totally allow for it. the idea that he could mess up so badly and then go on to win gold is just kind of stupid to me. they should have taken off more points for that mess-up.

no really. i thought falling off the the vault
or failing to grab the bars during exercises
means it's over.
but it was oh he fell off, let's
deduct some points! it seems completely
ludicrous.
i think a lot of people see fault with the point
system.

[Tao]

no really. i thought falling off the the vault
or failing to grab the bars during exercises
means it's over.
but it was oh he fell off, let's
deduct some points! it seems completely
ludicrous.
i think a lot of people see fault with the point
system.

seriously. the vault isn't like the floor exercise where if you mess up on one tumbling pass, it'll be deducted from the total, the vault is a one shot deal. the whole point of it is to land on your feet. if you don't do that you shouldn't be getting a 9.1

i was reading sports illustrated today and it seems the controversy is due to the judges scoring the korean gymnast out of a 9.9 scale instead of a 10, which could mean he would've won the gold. and i beleive the american sports commentator was upset cause the media and the judges are pressuring hamm to give up his gold medal, which apparently is upsetting his dear old mom.

[Kuchana]

But you have to take into account the other gymnasts who messed up and let Hamm get to the top. Even if the Korean gymnanst had been awarded the full points that he deserved, Hamm would have only gone down from 1st to 2nd. It's all about taking advantage of the situation and your opponents' mistakes. In this case, the judges made an error on their part though.

[deez nuts]

if i was hamm, i would just give them the gold just to have them shut up at this point.

the reality is that you have human judges scoring. there will be human error. and sometimes in life there's no do overs. build a bridge and get over it. i'm sick of hearing about it every single olympic update i watch. better luck in four years, korea.

[Banana]

I'm not pissed at the whole situation about the error. What does piss me off is the reaction of Hamm, some commentators complaining about whining, and the US Gymnastics chair.

They keep telling others to stop whining but had the roles been reversed, we would be on this like flies on shit.

[deez nuts]

if the roles were reveresed and it was the usa, china or taiwan bitching, i would say the same thing. enough is enough already.

[yoMAMA]

did you guys hear paul hamm interviewed on NBC?

i mean he talks like a 7 year old boy [don't get me wrong, he's a great gymnast and i kinda feel sorry for him over all those judging fiasco....]

but god that voice was awful!

[Chester]

What's funny is that when I brought up the Roy Jones Jr fight, they said that was warrented for complains but Hamm's situation is not. Because the gymnastics situation is a complicated one involving technicalities: the judges technically undergrading the Korean's exercise, the Koreans technically filing the protest incorrectly, the Korean technically having benefited from missed deductions. The entire situation is a big argument over miniscule differentiations in shades of gray that all fall within the normal spectrum of sports that involve evaluative judgements made by humans.

If the matter is simply about the Korean's routine getting an incorrect starting value, then I say Hamm's medal should be stripped and the Korean given the gold medal. But if the Korean's routine also had mistakes that the judges passed over, then that should go into this retroactive evaluation. And, from what I've read, if you consider the missed deduction as well as the incorrect starting value, the two things cancel each other out and Hamm is still the rightful champion. At heart, Hamm's argument is that you can't go back retroactively and selectively.

The Roy Jones Jr. situation was pretty cut-and-dry. Roy Jones clearly and obviously dominated his opponent and the entire arena knew he got shafted when the Korean was given the win. Even the Korean boxer was embarrassed by the outcome, raising up Jones's arm to show his cognizance of the whupping he took.

[stickyrice]

The criticism was about Al Trautwig and his personal vendetta against the Korean. It was uncalled for by any standards.

Not the judging.
Not the technicallities.
Not gymnastics.
Not speed skating.

But about a commentator with NO gymnastics skills, singling out an individual to blame for the entire judging mishap. On a further note, the fact that NBC would let a commentator voice such anger at an individual is of great concern.

[stunninglyAsian]

But NBC is a US company providing information for the American market. In spite of all the good and wholesome values of togetherness the Olympics stand for, I think it is more about national and racial superiority. I'm sure if you were to take a look at the comments made by Koreans in Korean media, it would probably be much worse.

[applehead]

I'm sure if you were to take a look at the comments made by Koreans in Korean media, it would probably be much worse.
oh hell no.
there were no comments made by the korean
media like the ones made by al trautwig.

[SunWuKong]

But you have to take into account the other gymnasts who messed up and let Hamm get to the top. Even if the Korean gymnanst had been awarded the full points that he deserved, Hamm would have only gone down from 1st to 2nd. It's all about taking advantage of the situation and your opponents' mistakes. In this case, the judges made an error on their part though.

actually, a full point would take him down lower than that. Hamm ended up with a 57.823, while Yang Tae Young, the bronze winner, ended up with a 57.774. i don't know how many points Hamm was deducted for his fuck-up, but the difference between gold and bronze in this case is only 0.049.

[Chester]

actually, a full point would take him down lower than that. Hamm ended up with a 57.823, while Yang Tae Young, the bronze winner, ended up with a 57.774. i don't know how many points Hamm was deducted for his fuck-up, but the difference between gold and bronze in this case is only 0.049. Kuchana's point wasn't about Hamm's deduction, but Yang's. If Yang had gotten that extra tenth of a point, he would have passed Hamm, but that would have put Hamm behind only Yang.

And harp all you want on whether or not you think Hamm should be able to win after such a big crash on the vault or whether or not the landing was penalized enough, but apparently his vault was appropriately scored, given the rules of gymnastics. I haven't seen his vault score as being on the table for discussion.
The criticism was about Al Trautwig and his personal vendetta against the Korean. That's rather dramatic language, don't you think? I don't know about you, but I reserve phrases like "personal vendetta" for much stronger actions than Trautwig's comments on Yang.
The criticism was about Al Trautwig and his personal vendetta against the Korean. It was uncalled for by any standards.

Not the judging.
Not the technicallities.
Not gymnastics.
Not speed skating. What are you trying to say here? The judging/technicalities/gymnastics/speed skating was not called for...or...? The intent of your statements are pretty hazy. The judging/technicalities/gymnastics/speed skating are "Not" what?
the fact that NBC would let a commentator voice such anger at an individual is of great concern. To whom? It isn't to me. Even if I disagreed completely with it, I don't place "great concern" on the opinions or statements of a sportscaster or even the typical topics of discussions of a sportscaster. I reserve "great concern" for things that are far more substantial events than gymnastics controversies.

[Kris]

i dont think people here are concerned about what he said, but rather how he said it. if he had done it in a more respectable manner i doubt people would be saying anything. the way he came off made him look like a racist prick. i'm disapointed that nbc hasn't done anything.

[applehead]

i dont think people here are concerned about what he said, but rather how he said it. if he had done it in a more respectable manner i doubt people would be saying anything. the way he came off made him look like a racist prick. i'm disapointed that nbc hasn't done anything.

augh. so true.
it's all in the delivery.
and he had a lousy one.

[Mr.Lum]

Im sorry but it didn't strike me as anti-Korean.

[Chester]

the way he came off made him look like a racist prick. How did race enter the equation? Did he ever say anything about race?

[Mr.Lum]

I'm not even offended by this. He was just doing his job, it's not like he said "here comes that damn gook who can't take a losss. He's an awful sour loser, just like those other Koreans are". What's the big deal here?

[Banana]

He could be insulting him in a way that sounded like he was insulting the country which usually translates into insulting the whole race.

From some perspective, when you say you hate a country, it's usually racism involved.

[Mr.Lum]

I didn't know he said he hated Korea. I don't think he was insulting anyone. I think some people are just oversensitive.

[Chester]

He could be insulting him in a way that sounded like he was insulting the country which usually translates into insulting the whole race.

From some perspective, when you say you hate a country, it's usually racism involved. If you're going to charge him with racism or even suggest it, it would behoove you to have a much stronger argument than that.

For example, when an American makes fun of "cheese-eating surrender monkeys," they're making fun of the French, not necessarily white people in general.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

If you're going to charge him with racism or even suggest it, it would behoove you to have a much stronger argument than that.

For example, when an American makes fun of "cheese-eating surrender monkeys," they're making fun of the French, not necessarily white people in general.

Often times however, white Americans insulting Europeans usually involves something like "oh the French are assholes" or "the British are inbred" etc. and does not generalize the whole white race, yet when insults towards Asians or Asian countries (even specific Asian countries in particular such as in this case) are made, part of the source is an ignorant and/or condescending racist attitude towards Asian people in general. I'm not saying that this is definitely the case here, I'm just making note of the fact that due to social dynamics in this country, a white guy making a disparaging remark about the French is not always the same as a white guy making another remark about Koreans, or Chinese, or Japanese, etc.

[Chester]

I'm not saying that this is definitely the case here, I'm just making note of the fact that due to social dynamics in this country, a white guy making a disparaging remark about the French is not always the same as a white guy making another remark about Koreans, or Chinese, or Japanese, etc. I wouldn't disagree with that. But, nonetheless, that doesn't do anything insofar as proving that the announcer had any racist intent in his statements or opinions. Personally, I think the announcer would have said the exact same shit had the protesting gymnast been, say, a Canadian.

Furthermore, if you take the body of his commentary, you would note that he never hesitated to give props to Asian gymnasts when they did well. In fact, the night of the All-Around competition, he did a fair amount of fawning over the Koreans' great effort and performance.

Everyone who is either charging or suggesting racism on his part should go back and watch coverage and note his comments on Chinese, Japanese, and even the Korean gymnasts.

[applehead]

I'm not even offended by this. He was just doing his job, it's not like he said "here comes that damn gook who can't take a losss. He's an awful sour loser, just like those other Koreans are". What's the big deal here?

yeah i didn't necessarily find it racist but i felt
his commentary more befitting
for sportcenter or something
and not the olympics.
it just seemed like a bad choice of words
and lacked tact on his part.

but then i also do understand why
someone might feel that it's a bit racist.

[lethal]

Everyone who is either charging or suggesting racism on his part should go back and watch coverage and note his comments on Chinese, Japanese, and even the Korean gymnasts.
I'm not charging racism, but is this the same guy who said something about "off the cuteness scale" in reference to one of the Chinese female gymnasts?

[Mr.Lum]

What does that have to do with it? The Chinese gymnasts looked like little kids (a few of them) it's not like they were grown looking people.

[applehead]

lethalweapon is mentioning that fact
to establish a pattern with his speech
regarding asian gymnasts.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

What does that have to do with it? The Chinese gymnasts looked like little kids (a few of them) it's not like they were grown looking people.

They all look like little kids. The women I mean.

Hi Meena~

[applehead]

They all look like little kids. The women I mean.

Hi Meena~

hi hube!!!
well, is it because they don't have boobies?
:biggrin:

[Napoleon Chynamite]

hi hube!!!
well, is it because they don't have boobies?
:biggrin:

I dunno, I was paying more attention to their technique and personality :redface:

[applehead]

personality. puehehehehee

[Mr.Lum]

lethalweapon is mentioning that fact
to establish a pattern with his speech
regarding asian gymnasts.

What that he comments on them?

[applehead]

well. duh he's a commentator for the gymnastics
he's GOING to comment on them regardless.
it's his choice of words that we're trying to pinpoint
and discuss.

[Mr.Lum]

Yes and so he talks about them, and this makes a pattern? I don't see anything wrong with his choice of words. They weren't wrong.

[applehead]

dude. that's why it's called a discussion.
no one has to agree with one another.
you don't see anything wrong. that's fine.
some people do. lethal never said his choice
of words were wrong. he's merely pointing them out.
no him talking about them doesn't make it a pattern.
we're merely trying to FIND a pattern in his choice
of words when he DOES choose to talk about
asian gymnasts. damn.

[Mr.Lum]

dude. that's why it's called a discussion.
no one has to agree with one another.
you don't see anything wrong. that's fine.
some people do. lethal never said his choice
of words were wrong. he's merely pointing them out.
no him talking about them doesn't make it a pattern.
we're merely trying to FIND a pattern in his choice
of words when he DOES choose to talk about
asian gymnasts. damn.

Calm down. It just sounds like looking for racism everywhere. I'm trying to understand. No need for the attitude.

[applehead]

there's no attitude. i apologize if it
came out that way.
i was just getting frustrated at your
questions and comments.

[Green_Jade]

wow..that's really uncalled for.

I also noticed another female announcer (probably not announcer by trade, I think she was a former platform diver) making stupid comments about "the chinese" and their "flat feet".. But she was generally making loopy and air-headed comments. like "Oh, MY GOD!! OH MY GOD that was bad..that is not good.." somethign like that.

[Tao]

wow..that's really uncalled for.

I also noticed another female announcer (probably not announcer by trade, I think she was a former platform diver) making stupid comments about "the chinese" and their "flat feet".. But she was generally making loopy and air-headed comments. like "Oh, MY GOD!! OH MY GOD that was bad..that is not good.." somethign like that.
i tihnk i know who you're talking about, she is one whiny ass bitch

[applehead]

wow..that's really uncalled for.

I also noticed another female announcer (probably not announcer by trade, I think she was a former platform diver) making stupid comments about "the chinese" and their "flat feet".. But she was generally making loopy and air-headed comments. like "Oh, MY GOD!! OH MY GOD that was bad..that is not good.." somethign like that.

hahahahahhaha.
i was watching that at the gym.
and i couldn't believe my ears.
i was more amused than anything else.

the network should seriously evaluate these
people before hiring them as commentators.