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SunWuKong
08-20-2004, 09:57 AM
India's outsourcing flip-flop
By Siddharth Srivastava

NEW DELHI - The outsourcing story has so far headed down a one-way street - with Indians and Indian firms accused of eating into jobs in the United States and the United Kingdom, and the latest estimates pegging India's offshore services growth rate at over 40%.

But as Indian information-technology (IT) firms reach global scales, a reverse trend is also evolving - Americans and others from the West are finding employment in the overseas operations of Indian firms. It is been termed "reverse outsourcing" and nobody, including presidential aspirant John Kerry, should find cause to complain about it - even if elections are looming in the US. This adds to the many out-of-work executives from the US who have moved to India in search of better opportunities.

In the latest instance, an affluent US county has invited Indian and Israeli firms to open branches, creating millions of square feet of vacant office space for such use. The Economic Development Authority of Fairfax County (Virginia), close to Washington, DC, has opened offices in Bangalore and Tel Aviv to persuade Indian and Israeli firms to set up offices in the county.

"We looked around to see where the hot technology markets are and how compatible they are with us," said Gerald L Gordon, president of the authority. "We are targeting as many as we can get. We tell them: 'You can do business here.'"

In the past, Indian outsourcing companies have set up offices in the US, but they have been largely restricted to marketing, generating new clients and establishing a countrywide network, all of which have created very few jobs, which, too, are mostly for Indians. The move by Virginia comes at a time when several Indian IT giants such as Infosys, Wipro and Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) have resorted to hiring Western employees to deal with local populations abroad, riding profits generated on huge international business deals as well as the need to penetrate markets further.


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AliBabaIncorporated
08-20-2004, 07:30 PM
This adds to the many out-of-work executives from the US who have moved to India in search of better opportunities
Actually, I have read an article recently about a guy from LA who did an internship at Infosys, graduated college, then joined some i-banking associate program, hated it, and then moved to India again to get back his job at Infosys.

SunWuKong
08-20-2004, 07:49 PM
to be honest, i'd like to see some stats before i would think that there is significant job increase for Americans due to Indian IT success.

jimbo
08-20-2004, 11:31 PM
to be honest, i'd like to see some stats before i would think that there is significant job increase for Americans due to Indian IT success.


Agreed


I'm in the I.T industry and a lot of my job opportunities have gone because of outsourcing to India.

There are not anywhere near as many analyst roles as there were 2 years ago. So I'm having to get out of the industry and possibly retrain.

SunWuKong
08-20-2004, 11:46 PM
Agreed


I'm in the I.T industry and a lot of my job opportunities have gone because of outsourcing to India.

There are not anywhere near as many analyst roles as there were 2 years ago. So I'm having to get out of the industry and possibly retrain.

i'm in the IT industry, too, and my opinion is just that if they're going have to pay me X times as much as an Indian programmer, i better be worth the money. and i don't mind changing career. i don't see myself being a programmer for more than another few years anyway (hopefully).

one thing you might want to look into is project management in China/HK. there are a lot of talented programmers in China, but the IT industry is not nearly as mature as it is in the west, and project management is definitely not there yet.

kuilong
08-21-2004, 01:16 AM
I hear it's a lot harder for non-PIOs to get work visas in India than vice versa.

AliBabaIncorporated
08-21-2004, 01:34 AM
PIO being "Person of Indian Origin" for those of y'all who aren't up to date with the Indian government acronyms. =)

Maybe the Indian government want to avoid creating any perception that they are open to immigration, to avoid floods of laborers from neighboring countries coming to look for work.