Outkast vs Red Hot Chili Peppers

[Hiroshi2]

Both groups are creative as hell. Both groups say a whole bunch of nothing on their records but somehow still make better music than a lot of people out there who supposedly have so much to say. Both groups cross a lot of barriers music-wise. Which do you like better?




Personally, I like the Chili Peppers a lot. Actually the first time that I heard "Scar Tissue".................that's what opened me up to rock music, period. Well I don't listen to nearly as much rock music now, but now that I have I can honestly say that most of the stuff out there doesn't compare to the Chili Peppers IMO.


But.......................on the other hand. I just gotta give to OutKast...............I dunno. I like 'em both but that southerplayastic game just got so much appeal and it's hard to resist. I ain't talkin about that Stankonia shit, I'm talkin' first three albums baby (Southernplayasticadillacmusik, ATLiens, and Aquemini). Classic. Not just classic hip-hop. But just classic in terms of modern music period.

[TB4000]

Chili Peppers can jam when they want to - What I got ya got to get it, put it in you!!!!

OutKast has the same type of abstract style they do...they really need to do a collabo.

[Mr.Lum]

Chili Peppers. Chili Peppers are my favorite band. Apache Rose Peacock is my jam. Outkast is ok, but I don't like them as much. It's not funky enough for me.

[nonamerasian]

I like the Peppers better.

[kitty]

I liked Outkast until I realized how much of an idiot Andre is.

[Mr.Lum]

I don't think Outkast is on the same level as the Chili Peppers acctually.

[Hiroshi2]

^ Well let's see......................you can't compare them musically because OutKast raps and the Chili Peppers play instruments (I think OutKast produced some of their shit though).



In terms of creativity.............................yeah I think OutKast could definitely hang with them.


And you said OutKast wasn't funky enough......................I was gonna let that slide but since you said something else I'll say it - what is your definition of "funk"? I've heard most of the Chili Peppers material (I got a couple of friends who are really into them and can play a few of their simple songs like "Under the Bridge").


Chili Peppers "funk" is just wanna-be Sly & the Family Stone, James Brown funk to tell you the truth, which is why they remade funk and other 70s hits (like "Love Rollercoaster, originally by the Ohio Players).

OutKast isn't really "funk" but their ecclectiness always appealed to me a bit more. I'm not trying to take nothing from the Chili Peppers................I just always liked OutKast a little bit more cause as crazy and out-there they always brought it back to the street, so they always felt a bit more down-to-earth and approachable to me, I know that sounds funny but maybe you need to listen to a few more of their stuff to understand what I'm talking about.


I'm not bashing the Chili Peppers of course.....................but I had to defend them.


@ kittygirl -


LOL yeah Andre is an idiot. I remember I was watching HBO and I left the room and came back and saw Andre on TV with Bill Maher, who appparently has some kind of show on HBO. Anyway, he was asking him all these questions about Al Sharpton, etc. and Andre just stood there like, "yeah, uh huh." He had absoultely nothing to add to the conversation.


Anyway, I tuned out after that but the point is - Andre's not really the smart or political one in OutKast anyway, Big Boi is. Though there have been a couple of times when Andre tried to kick some social commentary, it was usually about what was going on in the black community, in neighborhoods like his (and mine for that matter) where he grew up, like this line from "13th Floor" on ATLiens -




"I bet you never heard of a playa with no game
Told the truth to get what I want but shot it with no shame
Take this music dead serious while others entertain
I see they makin they paper so I guess I can't complain... or can I?
I feel they disrespectin the whole thang
Them hooks like sellin dope to black folks
And I choke when the food they serve ain't tastin right
My stomach can't digest it even when I bless it
I'm confessin one mo' lesson from the South we in the house tonight
Now hootie who wants to oppose? Suppose
We rolls through Headland and Delowe
where me and my niggaz surpassed the flow
And got down for ours like hind catchers
My mind catches flashbacks to the black past
while my close niggaz laugh at
The Southern slang, figure ways and mojo chicken wangs
I grew up on booty shake we did not know no better thangs
So go 'head and, diss it, while real hip-hoppers listen
Started by Afrika Bambaata, so you and your potnah
Gather your thoughts"



For all their crazyness, I never heard the Chili Peppers drop a single line that was meant to be in some way positive, thought-provoking or empowering. OutKast has done that, and has still managed to be among the most creative artists out there right now.

[kitty]

LOL yeah Andre is an idiot. I remember I was watching HBO and I left the room and came back and saw Andre on TV with Bill Maher, who appparently has some kind of show on HBO. Anyway, he was asking him all these questions about Al Sharpton, etc. and Andre just stood there like, "yeah, uh huh." He had absoultely nothing to add to the conversation.


yeah. that was what did it for me. how much more stupid looking can you be? unless you're the republican guy they got for that panel.

[Mr.Lum]

And you said OutKast wasn't funky enough......................I was gonna let that slide but since you said something else I'll say it - what is your definition of "funk"? I've heard most of the Chili Peppers material (I got a couple of friends who are really into them and can play a few of their simple songs like "Under the Bridge").



I don't find Outkast funky enough for me. They just don't do it.

OutKast isn't really "funk" but their ecclectiness always appealed to me a bit more. I'm not trying to take nothing from the Chili Peppers................I just always liked OutKast a little bit more cause as crazy and out-there they always brought it back to the street, so they always felt a bit more down-to-earth and approachable to me, I know that sounds funny but maybe you need to listen to a few more of their stuff to understand what I'm talking about.
I'm not bashing them. I like them, I have all of their CD's. I just do not like them more than the Chili Peppers. I think they're both good, but I think the Chili Peppers have are more versitile and
have a style that fits with me better. There is something on every Outkast CD I like, but I pretty much like everything by the Chili Peppers with a few exceptions. I personally like the Chili Peppers style more.
For all their crazyness, I never heard the Chili Peppers drop a single line that was meant to be in some way positive, thought-provoking or empowering. OutKast has done that, and has still managed to be among the most creative artists out there right now.
Thier job isn't really the point of them. It's more jam music than it is anything else. I read somewhere that he basically writes down the first thing that rhymes or sounds good that pops into his head for most of the songs. A lot of the words don't make sense in some of their songs even if the over all songs do.

[hooligan]

both?

[Faithless]

Waita sec.

If you can't compare them, why put a poll?

[Hiroshi2]

I'm talking about compare them in terms of musical instruments cause OutKast doesn't really play any.

[Faithless]

Well, since I don't know much about OutKast, there's just the two rappers, right? Andre and Big Boi.

With the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, there's just the one main singer, Anthony.

they seem more different, than similar, for comparison sake.

I'd say match up OutKast to some other rap teams, like old school EPMD, Run DMC, or Public Enemy's pairing. Or something like that.

[asvenus]

oh lordy what a comparison...havnt voted yet...i mean i absolutely adorrrrre the chillis, went to see em over here (UK) and they were the shit!! but then again outkast...the atliens and aquemini albums are too good i mean TOOOOO good....i love the fact that outkast continually push boundaries with their music and reinvent/redefine our conceptions of rap music...although Andre appears to be going the Pharrell route and transforming himself into a singer (although im not complaining when youre that fine you can do what the hell you want cot dammit!!)

both groups i have followed and adored since i was in school so its hard to choose although outkast probably have a slight edge for me...

'gave me the dickens reminiscent of Charles'...hahahaha only Andre could get away with chatting madness like this i swear it....

PS: is it just me because im not american..but is the southern accent not one of the sexiest accent you ever heard!! teehee :biggrin: ok maybe its just me :tongue:

[Hiroshi2]

'Dre and Big Boi got two different southern accents though. Big Boi's got the regular black southern accent, and Dre's got more of the gay black southern accent. I know that sounds funny, but having lived here for 17 years (my whole life) I've been able to pick out the difference. If I didnn't know any better, I'd think Dre was gay. He talks kinda feminine.


Chotto, I don't see why Run-DMC or EPMD or anybody else would be a good comparo (or at least better than the Chili Peppers). They're both very creative, that's the main reason I put 'em together.

[Kennyb]

Hiroshi2, slight education that I need to give you here... Originally RHCP were a punk band when they came out (that's what they called themselves, like how Nirvana did when they first came out).

Scar Tissue? Bloody hell, you're abit late in getting into RHCP. I think most people on here would say the most memorable song from them is 'Give it away'.

As for the two, I'm abit bias towards the Chili since I'm more into rock than hip hop.

[Filiprish]

Scar Tissue? Bloody hell, you're abit late in getting into RHCP. I think most people on here would say the most memorable song from them is 'Give it away'.
You gotta give him some credit. He's too young. Not to mention, he's primarily into Hip-Hop and he digs the Chili Peppers. At least he knows good music when he hears it. :wink:

[Mr.Lum]

Scar Tissue? Bloody hell, you're abit late in getting into RHCP. I think most people on here would say the most memorable song from them is 'Give it away'.

For me, Apache Rose Peacock and Aeroplane is where it's at especially.

[Hiroshi2]

You gotta give him some credit. He's too young. Not to mention, he's primarily into Hip-Hop and he digs the Chili Peppers. At least he knows good music when he hears it. :wink:




I was about to say....................I grew up listening to hip-hop in the neighborhood and R&B in my parents car and anytime I went over old folks' houses (Al Green, Temptations, Gap Band, Rick James, all of that shit).



Well I take that back..................my mom listened to black music but she listened to white music too.............................namely Elton John, the Carpenters, etc. But I never really got into that, it's just that I know about it. But yeah I primarily listen to hip-hop/R&B.

[SunWuKong]

i love Chilli Peppers, but they're not rock. they're some pseudo-funk sound. bands like Foo Fighters and Weezer are rock. there are not many real rock bands left nowadays.

[deez nuts]

they both suck