Dog-eating People

[angel nympho]

This lady at the Promenade the other day was screaming at me from behind a table trying to get me and my friend to sign a petition. It was something about stopping people in Asian countries from eating dogs.

What the fuck?!?

Umm... okay, well, sure, I personally wouldn't TOUCH a bowl of bo-shing-tang, but FUCK man. Let em eat whatever they want!!! Do you guys consider it cruel to eat dogs? I mean, sure, dogs are the most common pets around, but some people have, like, pet pigs and stuff. And pork is like... the other white meat or some shit like that.

What if people in Korea kept crabs as pets and they started crusades all over the place to keep us from eating them. I mean, doesn't make much sense, does it?

And besides, I heard something about the slaughter of dogs to eat isn't allowed over there anymore, even...


[Edit: Oh yeah, and I told the lady to eat a dick and walked away. Normally, I wouldn't be such a bitch, but she gave me a dirty look. Probably because I'm yellow... and because it's "my people" who eat a lot of dog. But pshh... either way, it's fun to terrorize random nuts on the promenade.]



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[thaite]

What the hell did she think her petition was gonna do? Our military is busy trying to oust Saddam.

[Reinhard H.]

I have eaten dog meat at several occasions (as soup and as dog strips with veggies), it tastes a bit like beef, maybe. I don't think ethically it's any different from eating other animals.

[ren28]

What you said to her is funny as hell.

[SunWuKong]

shit, just because they treat their food like pets doesn't mean we have to.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 17 2002, 05:54 PM
shit, just because they treat their food like pets doesn't mean we have to.
So, since cows are venerated somewhere else we should shut down the beef industry in America, right? No more Big Macs for you, buster.

[wylin]

again i see theres a need for my wisdom,

"the cuter it is, the better it tastes"

should the dogma of all people.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by wylin@Sep 17 2002, 06:34 PM
again i see theres a need for my wisdom,

"the cuter it is, the better it tastes"

should the dogma of all people.
babies?

[deez nuts]

Oh boy, the ASPCA or whatever animal cruelty special ineterst group, would have a field day with this one.



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[kasia]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 18 2002, 01:54 AM
shit, just because they treat their food like pets doesn't mean we have to.
also, i heard that the dogs they eat in korea are of a special breed and rarely the breeds that we would keep as pets.



<!--EDIT|kasia|Sep 18 2002, 02:39 AM-->

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 17 2002, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 17 2002, 05:54 PM
shit, just because they treat their food like pets doesn't mean we have to.
So, since cows are venerated somewhere else we should shut down the beef industry in America, right? No more Big Macs for you, buster.
wait... do you understand what i was saying or am i misunderstanding what you're saying?

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 17 2002, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 17 2002, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 17 2002, 05:54 PM
shit, just because they treat their food like pets doesn't mean we have to.
So, since cows are venerated somewhere else we should shut down the beef industry in America, right? No more Big Macs for you, buster.
wait... do you understand what i was saying or am i misunderstanding what you're saying?
Oh. Nope. It was my bad. I read it wrong. Wouldn't have realized it if you didn't point it out.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 18 2002, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by wylin@Sep 17 2002, 06:34 PM
again i see theres a need for my wisdom,

"the cuter it is, the better it tastes"

should the dogma of all people.
babies?
*licks lips* Mmm... babies. I eat babies... and butterflies and cute lil kittens too.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by kasia@Sep 17 2002, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 18 2002, 01:54 AM
shit, just because they treat their food like pets doesn't mean we have to.
also, i heard that the dogs they eat in korea are of a special breed and rarely the breeds that we would keep as pets.
yes but i also read that this is not always so and that many different breeds, including breeds that would be kept as pets, would be eatened anyway.

but i don't care. and there's a chinese saying that chinese people eat anything whose back faces the sky.

however, i would rather the dogs not be beatened.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 18 2002, 06:00 AM
and there's a chinese saying that chinese people eat anything whose back faces the sky.
like crawling babies, for example.

[kimpossible]

This may crack you up then. The hippie new age students at my alma mater protested Nike the corp while the majority wore Nike shoes.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Sep 17 2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 18 2002, 06:00 AM
and there's a chinese saying that chinese people eat anything whose back faces the sky.
like crawling babies, for example.
Mmmm... be-bee - the other, other white meat.

How much for the be-bee? Get in me belly!



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[deez nuts]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 18 2002, 11:55 AM
and there's a chinese saying that chinese people eat anything whose back faces the sky.
Word! How else is a brother supposed to get his 350 grams of protein to feed his muscles!

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by professor frink@Sep 18 2002, 07:49 AM
oy, these white hippie new ageist activists get on my last nerve. they're damn hypocritical, mostly coming from middle-class neighborhoods, and all. old-school german greenpeacers (coming from a white cosmo middle class world) would protest the indigineous icelandic hunt of the whale - damn pretentious to me!

love, prof.frink
Werd. What's the difference between eating a dog that DOES NOT HAVE A NAME OR A RELATIONSHIP WITH A FAMILY and eating a fucking turkey. Koreans don't eat turkey, but you don't see them bitching to Americans not to.

[kasia]

the animal rights activists should really try to fix the problems at home before moving on to a different country. the way we raise and kill cows, chicken, etc. etc.

[karizma]

>> asians arent the only ones who ate dogs geez...white people did too!! luis n clark ate dogs and even said it tasted good. i dont know why its such a crime now geez.

>> i dont see what the big fuss is about over the consumption of dogs. how they differ from a cow or a pig is beyond me. just another dumb animal being slaughtered for food. american people derive enjoyment from playing with dogs...asians....get it from eatin em ^_^ all good in the hood man.

[Arex]

Though I wouldn't personally ever eat my own dog (well, maybe for $50k, and only if it had already died of something else), I would like to have the option of eating prime rib of dog if I wanted to. Americans are so friggin' hypocritical. If anything slaughtering a cow or pig should be seen as equally if not more "wrong" since they're bigger animals (and pigs are supposedly smarter than dogs anyway).

Anyone remember the stupid proposition that was passed in California a few years back that outlawed the transportation of live horses destined for consumption?? (That must've pissed off Jack In the Box!) I voted no.


Alex

[wylin]

animals are made outa meat, meat tastes good eat em then.

dude im chinese/ taiwanese all things under the sun are game

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by wylin@Sep 19 2002, 03:57 PM
dude im chinese/ taiwanese all things under the sun are game
How about people? :o

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by achtungbaby@Sep 21 2002, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by wylin@Sep 19 2002, 03:57 PM
dude im chinese/ taiwanese all things under the sun are game
How about people? :o
We covered that already. Crawling babies. The other, other white meat.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 21 2002, 03:04 PM
The other, other white meat.
You have to say this with a Scottish accent.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 18 2002, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Sep 17 2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 18 2002, 06:00 AM
and there's a chinese saying that chinese people eat anything whose back faces the sky.
like crawling babies, for example.
Mmmm... be-bee - the other, other white meat.

How much for the be-bee? Get in me belly!
Here it is. Picture me in a kilt and bagpipe.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 21 2002, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by achtungbaby@Sep 21 2002, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by wylin@Sep 19 2002, 03:57 PM
dude im chinese/ taiwanese all things under the sun are game
How about people? :o
We covered that already. Crawling babies. The other, other white meat.
so what time's dinner?

[BeTheReds]

Korean people don't eat turkeys because there are no turkeys in Korea. Perhaps my ancestors ate them all.

As for dog it tastes kinda good, but it's expensive. Ive been to a Korean dog farm and basically they live in little cages and eat dog food and bark at each other and stink up the place. I wouldn't say it's terribly different from any domesticated animal farm I've ever seen.

But one coorelation perhaps we could make is how a lot of Indians couldn't think of slaughtering a cow, while practically everyone else in the world does, but they don't go off hating the rest of the world because of it.

I think the reason this problem became so popular is because in some neighborhood some FOB KAs or illegals or someone actually ate stray and lost dogs. Then the people over generalized it and suggested that every KA does the same thing.

I remember some Korean restaurants in my area pissed off that the press did something like that with fears that it would attract fewer white customers, cuz face it, a Korean restaurant that attracts only korean people is bound to fail unless it is somewhere in Koreatown.

[Craig]

Haven't they traditionally eaten dogs in places like Switzerland also ?

[bluecollarjap]

I’ve never eaten dog, but I would if I was given the opportunity. I raised pigs and cows when I was little. Cute little animals, but when they grew large enough I slaughtered them. Bacon and a big slap of steak mmmmmm. I can’t stand these activists either. I swear 90% of them are professional protesters and have no clue what they’re protesting.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Bethereds@Oct 29 2002, 04:08 AM
I think the reason this problem became so popular is because in some neighborhood some FOB KAs or illegals or someone actually ate stray and lost dogs. Then the people over generalized it and suggested that every KA does the same thing.
actually it became popular because of that hypocritical bitch brigette bardot who should have been protesting the eating of horsemeat in france instead.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Craig@Oct 29 2002, 05:44 AM
Haven't they traditionally eaten dogs in places like Switzerland also ?
you're being sarcastic, right?

[himura-dono]

dumb cunt in my high school tried to start this same thing, but she didn't stress koreans. she said filipinos... now that she had made it racially motivated i signed the petition.....



























AS: (you thought i was serious) dog is yummy, why you no like to eat da dogie? :dance:

[Craig]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 29 2002, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Craig@Oct 29 2002, 05:44 AM
Haven't they traditionally eaten dogs in places like Switzerland also ?
you're being sarcastic, right?
Don't know the validity of it, but have read some sources before that mentioned a few places in Europe that have eaten dogs historically. I am sure there are better sources than what I have listed, but the following turned up on a quick search.

http://www.europeanvegetarian.org/evu/engl...ws964/dogs.html (http://www.europeanvegetarian.org/evu/english/news/news964/dogs.html)

http://www2.gol.com/users/coynerhm/wok_the_dog.htm

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nati..._kordogs19.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/134393085_kordogs19.html)

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Craig@Oct 29 2002, 07:19 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 29 2002, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by Craig@Oct 29 2002, 05:44 AM
Haven't they traditionally eaten dogs in places like Switzerland also ?
you're being sarcastic, right?
Don't know the validity of it, but have read some sources before that mentioned a few places in Europe that have eaten dogs historically. I am sure there are better sources than what I have listed, but the following turned up on a quick search.

http://www.europeanvegetarian.org/evu/engl...ws964/dogs.html (http://www.europeanvegetarian.org/evu/english/news/news964/dogs.html)

http://www2.gol.com/users/coynerhm/wok_the_dog.htm

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nati..._kordogs19.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/134393085_kordogs19.html)
i'll check those links later, but the reason i asked whether or not you're being sarcastic is because Switzerland is one of the more outspoken countries against dog-eating, because their national animal is the St. Bernard, and in some countries they are eatened because they have so much meat, even though historically speaking that's not a dog that is traditionally eatened.

[Reinhard H.]

I'm not principally opposed to eating dogs (since I've eaten it myself at several occasions), but what disturbs me is that I've heard that the Koreans kill them in an exceptionally cruel way, I think they slowly beat them to death, because they believe that adrenaline improves the taste of the meat.

[ChairmanMah]

uf this! i hated being ubgged for this. i've never eaten it knowingly and i've never seen my mom or grandma make it. My mom said the poorest ppl eat it but i don't think cantonese ppl have in our history. at least i hope not. :lol:

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 18 2002, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by kasia@Sep 17 2002, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 18 2002, 01:54 AM
shit, just because they treat their food like pets doesn't mean we have to.
also, i heard that the dogs they eat in korea are of a special breed and rarely the breeds that we would keep as pets.
yes but i also read that this is not always so and that many different breeds, including breeds that would be kept as pets, would be eatened anyway.

but i don't care. and there's a chinese saying that chinese people eat anything whose back faces the sky.

however, i would rather the dogs not be beatened.
is this true? Has anyone heard it before or was i told some bs.
My freind told me this and i don't evn know if this is even a chinese saying but it goes

"if it moves, you can eat it"

anyone else heard this saying before?

[Chris]

My parents have eaten dog. It not unusual in Asia. Both my parents said it taste like chicken. (i'm serious) But hey if I was starvign with no food left to eat. My maltese will look yummy. And i do stress on the word "IF".

[thaite]

My dog - No.

Your dog - Yes.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 29 2002, 08:41 PM
uf this! i hated being ubgged for this. i've never eaten it knowingly and i've never seen my mom or grandma make it. My mom said the poorest ppl eat it but i don't think cantonese ppl have in our history. at least i hope not. :lol:
yo are you kidding? cantonese people are the ones that would eat anything. and it's not just the poor people that eat dogs anymore. i mean people especially eat unusual things at business dinners because there's a sense of exoticism in it. like rats or roaches and stuff like that. my aunt was at a dinner with a client once and everything on the table was made with rats. supposedly they were bred for eating, but who knows.

[karizma]

>> dude you think chinese eat wierd shit...my friend went to some restaurant that specialized in serving "exotic" delicacies...my friend ate kangaroo...=P...and they had bison on the menu haha i thought bison were extinct...or wait...are they just endangered?

[Craig]

Kangaroo is commonly eaten in Australia. When I was in Colorado last year it really wasn't hard to find Buffalo to eat.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 29 2002, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 18 2002, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by kasia@Sep 17 2002, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Sep 18 2002, 01:54 AM
shit, just because they treat their food like pets doesn't mean we have to.
also, i heard that the dogs they eat in korea are of a special breed and rarely the breeds that we would keep as pets.
yes but i also read that this is not always so and that many different breeds, including breeds that would be kept as pets, would be eatened anyway.

but i don't care. and there's a chinese saying that chinese people eat anything whose back faces the sky.

however, i would rather the dogs not be beatened.
is this true? Has anyone heard it before or was i told some bs.
My freind told me this and i don't evn know if this is even a chinese saying but it goes

"if it moves, you can eat it"

anyone else heard this saying before?
yeah I heard that saying used by my older generation relatives.

And what SWK said is true, my mom's who is cantonese been going on this tirade about weird dishes served in Cantonese restaurants served in China.

[lethal]

I've never personally eaten dog before, but I was in Vietnam for New Year's last February.

You know that Vietnamese meal called "7 courses of beef?"

Well, right beside my uncle's new house was this restaurant/house with a sign out front. I should have taken a picture. Loosely translated it was "7 courses of tender young dog."

[Reinhard H.]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 30 2002, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 29 2002, 08:41 PM
uf this! i hated being ubgged for this. i've never eaten it knowingly and i've never seen my mom or grandma make it. My mom said the poorest ppl eat it but i don't think cantonese ppl have in our history. at least i hope not. :lol:
yo are you kidding? cantonese people are the ones that would eat anything. and it's not just the poor people that eat dogs anymore. i mean people especially eat unusual things at business dinners because there's a sense of exoticism in it. like rats or roaches and stuff like that. my aunt was at a dinner with a client once and everything on the table was made with rats. supposedly they were bred for eating, but who knows.
Yeah, I ate rat too already, no need to try it, a lot of nasty little bones and the little bit of meat you get is dry and bland. Dog meat on the other hand tastes a bit like beef.

[kimpossible]

I had big bugs and their larvae at one of my banquets. That was actually the most expensive part of the banquet which was heavy on the fertility theme. This was in Tainan for anyone who wants to know.

[ChinaLama]

i think i'd eat anything that's cooked. But i have a problem w/ eating live things cuz they squirm. :(

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Oct 30 2002, 07:13 PM
i think i'd eat anything that's cooked. But i have a problem w/ eating live things cuz they squirm. :(
Sashimi ain't cooked but it doesn't squirm. Heh, but my husband won't touch it. The closest he gets to any Japanese food is plain jane California roll.

[lethal]

Yeah, but sashimi isn't living when you eat it. Eating the live insects like they do on "Fear Factor..." <chills>

[kimpossible]

Oh, but you can get it still quivering... like in death throes. My grandfather told me a few stories of places in Japan that would just slice off a chunk of live fish or freshly kill the shrimp and serve it immediately.

Heh, yeah... Fear Factor ppl eat some nasty shit. Like that one girl that ate all those night crawlers. And the dude that ate the cockroach.

[lethal]

Thing is, the contestants would rather eat the live insects than the weird Asian foods, like the black thousand year old egg. Give me pig's blood or dog over live insects any day of the week and twice on Sunday :-)

[Uncle Tat]

Americans in general are really whiny people that view anything "different" as wrong. It's weird since Europeans are generally more open so it's not a white peoples view...just Americans...

[Reinhard H.]

Originally posted by Uncle Tat@Oct 31 2002, 05:49 AM
Americans in general are really whiny people that view anything "different" as wrong. It's weird since Europeans are generally more open so it's not a white peoples view...just Americans...
If you go to any McDonalds in Asia you always have Americans, these people travel all the way to Japan, Korea or China only to eat at the next American fast food joint (of course not everybody is like that).

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Uncle Tat@Oct 31 2002, 05:49 AM
Americans in general are really whiny people that view anything "different" as wrong. &nbsp;It's weird since Europeans are generally more open so it's not a white peoples view...just Americans...
If you go to any McDonalds in Asia you always have Americans, these people travel all the way to Japan, Korea or China only to eat at the next American fast food joint (of course not everybody is like that).
actually the bulk of the foreigners I see in McDonalds in HK are usually either Nigerians or Filipinas. some Brits and Americans, but more often than not they're long term residents. I can't blame them, it's cheap and it's a change of pace from the usual. The tourists stay indoors at the high class Chinese restaurants. I'm not implicating anyone on this board, but I find a lot of the Americans who bitch about foreigners overseas who eat at McDonalds are just playing the whole oneupsmanship game - "look at how cultured I am, I'm talking trash about my own country's food." freakin petit bourgeois insecurity.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 30 2002, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 29 2002, 08:41 PM
uf this! i hated being ubgged for this. i've never eaten it knowingly and i've never seen my mom or grandma make it. My mom said the poorest ppl eat it but i don't think cantonese ppl have in our history. at least i hope not. :lol:
yo are you kidding? cantonese people are the ones that would eat anything. and it's not just the poor people that eat dogs anymore. i mean people especially eat unusual things at business dinners because there's a sense of exoticism in it. like rats or roaches and stuff like that. my aunt was at a dinner with a client once and everything on the table was made with rats. supposedly they were bred for eating, but who knows.
I'm convinced there could be a big high-end market for cloning endangered animals ... for meat. hehehehe. imagine how much some rich dumb businessman might pay just to show off to his friends and to claim he ate some really rare animal.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by lethalweapon@Oct 31 2002, 12:49 AM
Thing is, the contestants would rather eat the live insects than the weird Asian foods, like the black thousand year old egg. Give me pig's blood or dog over live insects any day of the week and twice on Sunday :-)
WTF? thousand-year-old eggs are delicious! especially with congee. on man... i want some congee right now.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Oct 31 2002, 09:31 AM
actually the bulk of the foreigners I see in McDonalds in HK are usually either Nigerians or Filipinas. some Brits and Americans, but more often than not they're long term residents. I can't blame them, it's cheap and it's a change of pace from the usual. &nbsp;The tourists stay indoors at the high class Chinese restaurants.
hahhah yeah, go to a McDonald's on Sunday and you'll be knee-deep in Filippinas! the next cheapest places to eat in HK are the cha chan tangs. but they don't exactly cater to non-chinese speakers. i love them though, they're one of the few original things about HK culture.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Oct 31 2002, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 30 2002, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Oct 29 2002, 08:41 PM
uf this! i hated being ubgged for this. i've never eaten it knowingly and i've never seen my mom or grandma make it. My mom said the poorest ppl eat it but i don't think cantonese ppl have in our history. at least i hope not. :lol:
yo are you kidding? cantonese people are the ones that would eat anything. and it's not just the poor people that eat dogs anymore. i mean people especially eat unusual things at business dinners because there's a sense of exoticism in it. like rats or roaches and stuff like that. my aunt was at a dinner with a client once and everything on the table was made with rats. supposedly they were bred for eating, but who knows.
I'm convinced there could be a big high-end market for cloning endangered animals ... for meat. hehehehe. imagine how much some rich dumb businessman might pay just to show off to his friends and to claim he ate some really rare animal.
oh man you have no idea, i've heard stories about how they show off by buying loads of cheap wine at business dinners, but then they'd put all kinds of shit in it before they drink it, like sugar, or lemonade, etc etc. freaking mainland businessmen, there's so much male ego and gwan xi in doing business in mainland.

[Reinhard H.]

Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Oct 31 2002, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Uncle Tat@Oct 31 2002, 05:49 AM
Americans in general are really whiny people that view anything "different" as wrong. It's weird since Europeans are generally more open so it's not a white peoples view...just Americans...
If you go to any McDonalds in Asia you always have Americans, these people travel all the way to Japan, Korea or China only to eat at the next American fast food joint (of course not everybody is like that).
actually the bulk of the foreigners I see in McDonalds in HK are usually either Nigerians or Filipinas. some Brits and Americans, but more often than not they're long term residents. I can't blame them, it's cheap and it's a change of pace from the usual. The tourists stay indoors at the high class Chinese restaurants. I'm not implicating anyone on this board, but I find a lot of the Americans who bitch about foreigners overseas who eat at McDonalds are just playing the whole oneupsmanship game - "look at how cultured I am, I'm talking trash about my own country's food." freakin petit bourgeois insecurity.
Actually a lot of Asians themselves seem to love nothing more than eating at KFC or McDonalds, not because the food is so great, but because it's American. And McDonald's or KFC is not "my own countries" food, in case you were refering to me with your remark on "petit burgeois insecurities".

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Oct 31 2002, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Uncle Tat@Oct 31 2002, 05:49 AM
Americans in general are really whiny people that view anything "different" as wrong. It's weird since Europeans are generally more open so it's not a white peoples view...just Americans...
If you go to any McDonalds in Asia you always have Americans, these people travel all the way to Japan, Korea or China only to eat at the next American fast food joint (of course not everybody is like that).
actually the bulk of the foreigners I see in McDonalds in HK are usually either Nigerians or Filipinas. some Brits and Americans, but more often than not they're long term residents. I can't blame them, it's cheap and it's a change of pace from the usual. The tourists stay indoors at the high class Chinese restaurants. I'm not implicating anyone on this board, but I find a lot of the Americans who bitch about foreigners overseas who eat at McDonalds are just playing the whole oneupsmanship game - "look at how cultured I am, I'm talking trash about my own country's food." freakin petit bourgeois insecurity.
Actually a lot of Asians themselves seem to love nothing more than eating at KFC or McDonalds, not because the food is so great, but because it's American. And McDonald's or KFC is not "my own countries" food, in case you were refering to me with your remark on "petit burgeois insecurities".
eh, at least in HK, the locals go to these places not because these places are American. there're places like Dan Ryan for that. they go for the same reason that Americans in America go - they offer cheap fast food. don't believe all that corporate globalisation "look we have a McDonald's in a remote village in _______" american glorification bullshit.

[Reinhard H.]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 31 2002, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Oct 31 2002, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Uncle Tat@Oct 31 2002, 05:49 AM
Americans in general are really whiny people that view anything "different" as wrong. It's weird since Europeans are generally more open so it's not a white peoples view...just Americans...
If you go to any McDonalds in Asia you always have Americans, these people travel all the way to Japan, Korea or China only to eat at the next American fast food joint (of course not everybody is like that).
actually the bulk of the foreigners I see in McDonalds in HK are usually either Nigerians or Filipinas. some Brits and Americans, but more often than not they're long term residents. I can't blame them, it's cheap and it's a change of pace from the usual. The tourists stay indoors at the high class Chinese restaurants. I'm not implicating anyone on this board, but I find a lot of the Americans who bitch about foreigners overseas who eat at McDonalds are just playing the whole oneupsmanship game - "look at how cultured I am, I'm talking trash about my own country's food." freakin petit bourgeois insecurity.
Actually a lot of Asians themselves seem to love nothing more than eating at KFC or McDonalds, not because the food is so great, but because it's American. And McDonald's or KFC is not "my own countries" food, in case you were refering to me with your remark on "petit burgeois insecurities".
eh, at least in HK, the locals go to these places not because these places are American. there're places like Dan Ryan for that. they go for the same reason that Americans in America go - they offer cheap fast food. don't believe all that corporate globalisation "look we have a McDonald's in a remote village in _______" american glorification bullshit.
There is a group of Asians (mostly teenagers, I think) who have excessive feelings of admiration for everything American. I don't really care, after all everybody is entitled to his or her interests of choice. I think this is the main reason they go to American fast food joints, the same way you often have American movie stars etc. on Asian advertisement billboards and more and more wealthy Asians are building houses in the "American" style. Outside of Beijing they are just building on a new quarter for wealthy Chinese that features houses found in any American suburb. At the same time the traditional hutongs are rapidly being torn down to be replaced by highrise blocks. Of course the same is true for other parts of the world as well. For example in Germany young people now like to celebrate Halloween or Valentines Day (which are no German traditions), not because they are such great festivals, or because there are no alternative festivals, but because they are American. At the same time traditional festivals are becoming less important. I think this massive cultural loss is a negative effect of globalization, maybe in the end there will only be one commercialized world culture and local traditions will cease to exist.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by SunWuKung@Oct 31 2002, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by AliBabaIncorporated@Oct 31 2002, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by Uncle Tat@Oct 31 2002, 05:49 AM
Americans in general are really whiny people that view anything "different" as wrong. It's weird since Europeans are generally more open so it's not a white peoples view...just Americans...
If you go to any McDonalds in Asia you always have Americans, these people travel all the way to Japan, Korea or China only to eat at the next American fast food joint (of course not everybody is like that).
actually the bulk of the foreigners I see in McDonalds in HK are usually either Nigerians or Filipinas. some Brits and Americans, but more often than not they're long term residents. I can't blame them, it's cheap and it's a change of pace from the usual. The tourists stay indoors at the high class Chinese restaurants. I'm not implicating anyone on this board, but I find a lot of the Americans who bitch about foreigners overseas who eat at McDonalds are just playing the whole oneupsmanship game - "look at how cultured I am, I'm talking trash about my own country's food." freakin petit bourgeois insecurity.
Actually a lot of Asians themselves seem to love nothing more than eating at KFC or McDonalds, not because the food is so great, but because it's American. And McDonald's or KFC is not "my own countries" food, in case you were refering to me with your remark on "petit burgeois insecurities".
eh, at least in HK, the locals go to these places not because these places are American. there're places like Dan Ryan for that. they go for the same reason that Americans in America go - they offer cheap fast food. don't believe all that corporate globalisation "look we have a McDonald's in a remote village in _______" american glorification bullshit.
There is a group of Asians (mostly teenagers, I think) who have excessive feelings of admiration for everything American. I don't really care, after all everybody is entitled to his or her interests of choice. I think this is the main reason they go to American fast food joints, the same way you often have American movie stars etc. on Asian advertisement billboards and more and more wealthy Asians are building houses in the "American" style. Outside of Beijing they are just building on a new quarter for wealthy Chinese that features houses found in any American suburb. At the same time the traditional hutongs are rapidly being torn down to be replaced by highrise blocks. Of course the same is true for other parts of the world as well. For example in Germany young people now like to celebrate Halloween or Valentines Day (which are no German traditions), not because they are such great festivals, or because there are no alternative festivals, but because they are American. At the same time traditional festivals are becoming less important. I think this massive cultural loss is a negative effect of globalization, maybe in the end there will only be one commercialized world culture and local traditions will cease to exist.
eh, i guess i can't speak for other parts of asia. HK's fascination with the states mainly pertains to just american pop culture.

[Ultrateg]

Originally posted by Reinhard H.@Oct 31 2002, 07:52 AM
At the same time traditional festivals are becoming less important.
well i hope the germans keep on celebrating octoberfest.

i remember when i was i kid in hk...i ate at mcd's not cuz i wanted to be american but heck it was good food. bad for u but it was good.

i dunno bout the other parts of the world but i think in hk they juss like wutever from wutever country. japan, us, korea.

*oh replying to the topic......i wouldn't eat my own dog but i would like to try eating dog once. i heard its good.

[mydnyht]

As long as they're not torturing them before they kill them and eat them, I'm fine with it.

[mydnyht]

Originally posted by Ultrateg@Oct 31 2002, 06:29 PM
well i hope the germans keep on celebrating octoberfest.


Honey, take it from a German - as long as there's people out there willing to get drunk, there'll be an Octoberfest.