Do You Know Who You Are Going To Vote For?

[nonamerasian]

In the upcoming Presidential election?

[bluemonq]

yes...now if only someone can remind me to register to vote... how do i do that anyways? and can i use a student id on election day? i still don't have a driver's license... =/

edit: thanks for the link

[nonamerasian]

now if only someone can remind me to register to vote... how do i do that anyways? and can i use a student id on election day? i still don't have a driver's license... =/

:eek: .

Get your derriere registered.

Now.

Not Registered To Vote? (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=17575)

They probably won't ask you for ID. I only bring my voting card-thingy and I've never been carded.

Follow the link.

[Kuchana]

Pretty much yes.

[TB4000]

Yes, I have an idea, though I wish there were more choices available.

[kimpossible]

my vote is notbush. which is not quite the same as forkerry.

[rice cracker]

I'm moving before I can register, but hopefully I'll remember to do so when I fill out paperwork for my driver's license.

[Filiprish]

I'm 100% positive. Kerry-Edwards.

[DragonKnight]

Kerry-Edwards.

[Beat180]

Kerry-Edwards 100% for sure

[applehead]

augh. it's like voting for the lesser evil.
it's always seems that way.

[hooligan]

I'm voting for Heinz Kerry.

Yes, I have an idea, though I wish there were more choices available.
Haha terry, let's start our own ticket. It'll be the TB400-Hooligan campaign. We'll run it very Nader-ishly and hand California and New York to the Republicans!

[Tao]

i'm choosing not to vote

[applehead]

wwwwhy?

[Chester]

I have the luxury of living in a state that is as tidily anti-Bush as can be, so I get to vote my conscience and go for Nader/Camejo.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

Unfortunately the US hasn't got a Monster Raving Looney Party (http://www.omrlp.com/) like in Britain, so I'll be stuck voting for None of the Above (http://www.nota.org/). If I bother to vote at all. To be honest, I find the whole process useless, especially seeing that I live in California; I'd have infinitely more effect on politics in the same amount of time by writing a letter to local government officials (not to Congress, who are far away and safely insulated in DC culture) or the school board.

[ellsworth81]

no one has still given a reason to vote for kerry.

[Beat180]

To get rid of Bush....and get us out of this war with Iraq.....

Word.

Here's a reason not to vote for Nader. He's a sell out, sold out to Republicans and is only there to throw a monkey wrench in the Democrats game. Booo!!!

[Chester]

Here's a reason not to vote for Nader. He's a sell out, sold out to Republicans and is only there to throw a monkey wrench in the Democrats game. Quite the opposite. If my vote mattered, I would vote for Kerry, but when Kerry takes stances like the one he has taken against same-sex marriage, it's quite clear who the "sell-out" is.

[Kuchana]

To get rid of Bush....and get us out of this war with Iraq.....

I really doubt Kerry's ability to end the war or anyone else for that matter. Even he said that he wouldn't pull the troops out anytime soon if he was president. Plus something tells me for some reason that he'd only make it worse.

My vote's going to Bush. Yeah so hit me.

Word.

Here's a reason not to vote for Nader. He's a sell out, sold out to Republicans and is only there to throw a monkey wrench in the Democrats game. Booo!!!

Er no? At least Nader sticks to his issues while Kerry flip-flops back and forth on them! He's in the race because he believes in his issues.

[rice cracker]

Voting for Bush is idiotic. Sorry Kucha, but it's true.

[Kuchana]

Voting for Bush is idiotic. Sorry Kucha, but it's true.

Ah well. It's ok. I still love ya girl:) :wink:

[rice cracker]

Kerry may flip flop, but Bush consistantly sucks ass.

[nola]

no one has still given a reason to vote for kerry.
i like his signs of radicalness. he had some zingers in his speech like "i am reporting to duty", the saudi royal family, how wrong the war is, etc. on the other hand, clinton was never really radical but more of a wonk.

[John0101]

Kerry is gonna win MA anyways so im thinking Nadar if he gets on the ballot. Otherwise Kerry.

Kuchana why are you voting for BUSH?

[DragonKnight]

no one has still given a reason to vote for kerry. He's not Bush.

[ellsworth81]

He's not Bush.

that's not a compelling reason. No one has given a good enough reason yet.

And while I don't want Bush, I want to know what I'm getting with Kerry. So like i said, why should we vote for Kerry?

[nola]

nothing will change for us either way but didn't you feel better under clinton?

"a place called hope".

[Mr.Lum]

Er no? At least Nader sticks to his issues while Kerry flip-flops back and forth on them! He's in the race because he believes in his issues.


No he's not. He's in there because of his ego. He's a sellout, in the sense that he pretty much dropped his ethnicity compltely (hes Lebanese ARab American) he doesnt adress Arab American or Muslim issues at all. He's white washed. They talk about it at the mosque all the time, like, he wouldn't get any votes if people knew he wasn't white. He's a product of American assimilation and submission. He's gotten this far by passing.

On Kerry "flip floping" Id say any Senator, who throughout their career is consistant in their votes, hasn't really been voting.

nothing will change for us either way but didn't you feel better under clinton?



I felt safer in forreign countries.

[nola]

Nader is a whitewashed meglomaniacal asshole who stole the election from Dems. Unless the Dems have two or three terms in a row it will be more pipedreams but I have to give Clinton et al credit for really trying to change things.

[ellsworth81]

not sure how accurate this is .... but it's cleared a few things up for me

http://people.howstuffworks.com/election-issue.htm

[Mr.Lum]

Nader is a whitewashed meglomaniacal asshole who stole the election from Dems. Unless the Dems have two or three terms in a row it will be more pipedreams but I have to give Clinton et al credit for really trying to change things.

I wouldn't be suprised if he got a check from the Republicans.

[nola]

the petition campaigns going around different swing states like new mexico and ohio to put him on the ballot are getting funds from repubs. they are also paying people $2.50 for each voter registration that is marked republican. they are always so evil and underhanded. i worked for acorn (www.acorn.org) which just last week put raising the minimum wage to $6.15 on the Florida ballot in November so i know about petitions. it will bring kerry voters to the polls in the swing state of florida in november which was acorn's intention all along. the head of florida acorn thanked me personally for all my work on the minimum wage campaign and our office was best office of the state three times. acorn just raised san francisco's minimum wage to $8.50 in february ($8.50? wow!!!).

[ism]

If Jersey looks like it's going to Notbush then I'll vote for Badnarik.

Military draft is Unconstitutional under 13th Amendment (Slavery)
Military would be withdrawn from Iraq
Remove marriage license requirement; anyone can marry whoever they want
Medical marijuana would be legal
War on Drugs would be ended
Nonviolent drug offenders would be released from federal prison
States choose their own drug policy

[TB4000]

nothing will change for us either way but didn't you feel better under clinton?



I bet Monica sure did *ba-dum-bump*

To quote the Simpsons halloween episode featuring Kang and Kodos vs. Clinton and Dole

"It's a two party system! You have to vote for one of us!!!"

"I believe I'll vote for a third party, then."

"Go ahead...throw your vote away!!! Muhahahahaha!!!"

It's just not enough diversity for my taste.

[nola]

Democrats hang hats on minimum wage push
By STEVE BOUSQUET, St. Petersburg Times Staff Writer
Published July 31, 2004

Tony Hill calls it "the silver bullet" for Florida Democrats.

Could it also be John Kerry's secret weapon?

It is Amendment 5, a proposal to increase the minimum wage Florida by $1, to $6.15 an hour, and tie annual increases to inflation. It will be on the Nov. 2 ballot as a constitutional amendment.

Democrats see it as a way to help the working poor while driving thousands of liberal voters to the polls at the same time.

Do the math, and the politics.

For a struggling single mother working a cash register in a convenience store, it's a pay raise of $40 a week.

For Kerry, it could mean another vote from someone who might otherwise stay home on Election Day.

The prospect of a raise might do it.

"This is a kitchen table issue," says Hill, a Jacksonville Democratic state senator.

Gov. Jeb Bush repeatedly cites Florida's job growth as the best of any state, with a gain of 172,000 jobs in the 12 months before May 2004. Florida's unemployment rate consistently ranks below the national average, and the tax-subsidized Scripps Research Institute could produce thousands of high-paying jobs.

But it's also true that Florida's wages lag behind other states. Florida is filled with poor people working at low-paying jobs with little hope of advancement.

Supporters of a higher minimum wage, led by the umbrella reform group known as ACORN, raised $1-million to pay signature-gatherers to get the issue on the ballot. Most of the money came from unions and trial lawyers, groups that contend working people are suffering under President Bush and want to drive him from office.

To get its half-million signatures, ACORN registered a lot of poor and disaffected voters. Now, ACORN will make sure those voters get to the polls Nov. 2.

Brian Kettenring, ACORN's chief organizer in Florida, is succinct about the larger goal of the minimum wage amendment.

"It's a strategy to bring the voices of working families into the election," Kettering says.

Kerry has endorsed Amendment 5, but President Bush has not taken a position. Gov. Bush opposes it.

To understand the importance of this issue to Democrats, look no further than John Edwards, whose "two Americas" theme you'll be hearing over and over in the next three months.

"We have millions of Americans who work full-time every day, for minimum wage, to support their families and still live in poverty. It's wrong," Edwards said in his acceptance speech Wednesday night at the Fleet Center in Boston. "We will raise the minimum wage."

Accepting the presidential nomination Thursday night, Sen. John Kerry said: "Wages are falling. People are working two jobs, three jobs, and they're still not getting ahead."

The list of supporters of the Floridians for All PAC, based in St. Petersburg, reads like a who's who of Democratic donors. And come to think of it, they oppose the Bush brothers and their policies.

The National Education Association, parent of the Florida teachers' union, made the single biggest contribution ($250,000) to Floridians for All. AFSCME, the nation's largest public employee union, gave $100,000. The Tampa office of Morgan Colling & Gilbert contributed $50,000.

Money flowed to St. Petersburg from out of state, too. The Tides Foundation, a non-profit San Francisco group that supports living-wage campaigns in many states, gave $75,000.

Now ACORN must raise money to counteract an effort expected by retailers and restaurants to defeat Amendment 5.

Over breakfast with Florida delegates to the Democratic National Convention Thursday, Monica Russo, a union leader, held up a $1 bill.

"Can you send your kids to college on five dollars an hour?" Russo asked. "Amendment 5 will change that."




Meanwhile, in Ohio and other states a ballot initiative to amend the state constitution to ban gay marriage will bring Bush voters to the polls in November.

[AliBabaIncorporated]

For a struggling single mother working a cash register in a convenience store, it's a pay raise of $40 a week.
And for the other struggling single mother working next to her, it's a pink slip to pay for her coworker's $40 raise.

Is it really so hard for the Democrats to find someone who is economically literate? I guess Clinton was the ace up their sleeve, and now they're all tapped out ...

[nola]

Raising the minimum wage is a complex, debatable issue. Economists will say it hurts the very people it's trying to help because it raises prices on the things poor people buy. On the other hand, economics is a conservative field whose studies are often funded by corporations who oppose things like the minimum wage. On principle, don't you think $5.15 an hour or $10,700 a year full time is too low especially since this most minimum wage workers in Florida are young single mothers, the people who need money the most? Even a single person with no dependents can't live on $10,700 a year. Minimum wage workers in America are mostly women and minorities, too many of which are mothers and single mothers.


From http://www.floridiansforall.org/index.php?id=97:

If I’m not a low wage worker, than why should I support an increase in the minimum wage? Won’t this force bosses to layoff workers?

Raising wages helps the economy by putting more money in peoples’ pockets, meaning more spendable income. A minimum wage worker would get a raise of $2000 per year that will then help support businesses. Virtually every reputable economic study has found that workers don’t get fired when minimum wages are passed or increased. You may hear of studies that claim there are job losses, but these are generally paid for by corporations that pay very low wages, don’t want to pay their wage earners more, and are fighting the minimum wage.

[Filiprish]

I voted early for Kerry earlier this week.