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kasia
09-16-2002, 06:29 PM
last year, i helped an inmate appeal his assault with a deadly weapon conviction. his trial lawyer had failed to interview two key percipient witnesses who would have testified on his behalf. one was even a prosecution witness' family member who would have corroborated my client's story. basically we appealed for ineffective assistance of counsel. he has been in jail since 95!! his appeals were denied at state level and at the us district court level.

THIS WAS MY VERY SECOND CASE.

and my first case re: the battered women, i found out last week that she got a release date!!!

both my clients so deserved to get out. the justice system *works* you guys!!!!

i want to be jumping up and down right now.



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kimpossible
09-16-2002, 07:03 PM
Congrats!

*throws confetti*

Jump up and down. Get a little crazy. You've earned it.

:D

tapestrybabe
09-16-2002, 07:10 PM
Woo Hoo!! I feel your excitement. Congrats to you for a job well done!

Arex
09-16-2002, 07:20 PM
Woo woo, Kasia! I know you worked your ass off on those two cases, congratulations! Let's drink!

Alex

amietron
09-17-2002, 12:23 AM
congrats, kasia.

we needs more lawyers like you, who put passion/their hearts into their work.

artsfartsyjanet
09-17-2002, 05:42 AM
I know a lawyer if I need one. heheh :D

deez nuts
09-17-2002, 07:04 AM
consmadulations

Chris
09-17-2002, 12:47 PM
Congratulation Kasia you go girl!

amietron
09-17-2002, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by artsfartsyjanet@Sep 17 2002, 05:42 AM
I know a lawyer if I need one. heheh :D
you've got kasia and arex.
just pay for their airfare and board. :P

kasia
09-18-2002, 09:03 PM
thanks everyone. my dream actually is to sit down and have lunch (*in a nice restaurant--outside of the prison*) with some of my clients one day.

Andrew
10-15-2002, 06:03 PM
Awesome! That's really impressive.

himura-dono
10-22-2002, 11:43 PM
w00+!

go kass

kasia
10-22-2002, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Arex@Sep 17 2002, 03:20 AM
Woo woo, Kasia! I know you worked your ass off on those two cases, congratulations! Let's drink!

Alex
why are you always telling me to drink? :pissed:

himura-dono
10-22-2002, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by kasia@Oct 23 2002, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by Arex@Sep 17 2002, 03:20 AM
Woo woo, Kasia! &nbsp;I know you worked your ass off on those two cases, congratulations! &nbsp;Let's drink!

Alex
why are you always telling me to drink? :pissed:
he's trying to lower your inhibitions, remember, aggies currently drink 3 or less drinks, lol.

random factoid for an alum.

deez nuts
10-23-2002, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by kasia@Oct 23 2002, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by Arex@Sep 17 2002, 03:20 AM
Woo woo, Kasia! &nbsp;I know you worked your ass off on those two cases, congratulations! &nbsp;Let's drink!

Alex
why are you always telling me to drink? :pissed:
Hahahaha

kasia
05-21-2003, 06:13 PM
i found the case in westlaw today =) they used the language in my brief!!!!

United States Court of Appeals,
Ninth Circuit.
Michael BLACK, Petitioner--Appellant,
v.
Carl M. LARSON, Warden, Respondent--Appellee.
No. 01-56813.
D.C. No. CV-99-05627-CAS.
Argued and Submitted Aug. 5, 2002.
Decided Aug. 22, 2002.

here's the cite in case other law students are interested: 45 Fed.Appx. 653, 2002 WL 1941165 (9th Cir.(Cal.))

sorry, i get excited over strange things...

Tao
05-21-2003, 06:59 PM
nice

Chris
05-21-2003, 07:03 PM
yay. going to check westlaw. :)

lethal
05-21-2003, 07:05 PM
Its on Lexis too.

Chris
05-21-2003, 08:03 PM
oh then I will use lexis. Since I know how to use that one better. :D

mr. x
05-21-2003, 08:53 PM
wow props kasia

was the guy totally innocent or misunderstood?

kasia
05-21-2003, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by mr. x@May 21 2003, 07:53 PM
wow props kasia

was the guy totally innocent or misunderstood?
i don't know if i should be telling you this or not...anyhow, in legal ethics, one thing they teach us is to never ask if our clients are innocent or guilty - b/c we have a duty to not allow our clients to commit perjury or to disclose it if they do. so instead, all we do is find out certain facts...and work with them. that's why it's very important that we do the asking - and to make it clear to our clients that they must only answer what we ask.

of course, in practice, not everybody follows the rules. most crim attorneys probably let their clients get away with perjury. i just wanted to apply what i learned in class. so yeh - from the facts that i had - i believed he was innocent.

AngryABCGirl
05-21-2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by himura-dono@Oct 22 2002, 10:54 PM
Originally posted by kasia@Oct 23 2002, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by Arex@Sep 17 2002, 03:20 AM
Woo woo, Kasia! I know you worked your ass off on those two cases, congratulations! Let's drink!

Alex
why are you always telling me to drink? :pissed:
he's trying to lower your inhibitions, remember, aggies currently drink 3 or less drinks, lol.

random factoid for an alum.
Saw that t-shirt. :lol:

Gan Bei! :D

tvbdude
05-21-2003, 11:35 PM
congratulations on a job well done.

quick question:why is it important to draw pictures during trials? you know what those are

Rogmok
05-22-2003, 11:20 AM
awesome..

kasie, you are my role model.

537
05-22-2003, 11:32 AM
Awesome, congratulations.

Would you be my lawyer if I ever get sent to the Big House?

kasia
05-22-2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Chris@May 21 2003, 07:03 PM
oh then I will use lexis. Since I know how to use that one better. :D
how come you have access to lexis and westlaw, chris? are you secretly a law student? :D

kasia
05-22-2003, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by tvbdude@May 21 2003, 10:35 PM
congratulations on a job well done.

quick question:why is it important to draw pictures during trials? you know what those are
i have no clue. maybe other yw members know?

BeTheReds
05-22-2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by tvbdude@May 22 2003, 03:35 PM
congratulations on a job well done.

quick question:why is it important to draw pictures during trials? you know what those are
I have heard that flash photography is distracting, tho these days they could make it flashless and soundless and it would be ok.

Congrats Kasie. Maybe your argumentative skills actually do hold up in real life. :lol:

Emperor_Mike
05-22-2003, 06:32 PM
Yes! Congratulations on a job well done! :dance:

mr. x
05-22-2003, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by kasia@May 21 2003, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by mr. x@May 21 2003, 07:53 PM
wow props kasia

was the guy totally innocent or misunderstood?
i don't know if i should be telling you this or not...anyhow, in legal ethics, one thing they teach us is to never ask if our clients are innocent or guilty - b/c we have a duty to not allow our clients to commit perjury or to disclose it if they do. so instead, all we do is find out certain facts...and work with them. that's why it's very important that we do the asking - and to make it clear to our clients that they must only answer what we ask.

of course, in practice, not everybody follows the rules. most crim attorneys probably let their clients get away with perjury. i just wanted to apply what i learned in class. so yeh - from the facts that i had - i believed he was innocent.
well i trust you didnt do something you knew in your heart of hearts to be outright wrong at least

airborneranger
05-24-2003, 08:12 PM
hehe
So how much money did you get after the case
You are not so study minded and becoming an attorney to help people are you

Uncle Tat
05-24-2003, 10:44 PM
The Justice System DOES NOT WORK.

But congratulations on your case. Most impressive indeed.

airborneranger
05-25-2003, 03:50 AM
Do you think justice system works for OJ Simpson or not ?
I want to be a freelance attorney a hustler type Can I do that?

tvbdude
05-25-2003, 10:03 PM
oh and how do people find the right lawyer? cuz you got all these lawyers for different reasons. environmental, accidental, traffic, medical.....
I look in the yellow pages and all you is a listing of all the lawyers that's not in categorical order.