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mrazntre
06-05-2004, 01:19 AM
I was just reminded of this a while ago. For some reason, my Filipino friend likes white chicks. However, he's insanely obsessed with hapa chicks. Specifically, viet - french mix. He drools all over this like a dog and it's funny to me because I don't really care.

Do you have friends like this particular friend of mine? It kind of annoys me, but whatever. To each their own right?

So if an Asian guy only wants a hapa chick, is that a hapa fetish or hapaphile? What do you brothers out there think?

hooligan
06-05-2004, 01:22 AM
how about ... half japanese half chinese girls?

mrazntre
06-05-2004, 01:24 AM
how about ... half japanese half chinese girls?

uhm..

no.

i think the general definition of hapa as we know it (or so has been discussed) is asian/caucasian. Whether or not that is an accurate definition, I don't care. That's gonna be the definition that we're gonna use in this thread.

hooligan
06-05-2004, 01:27 AM
uhm..

no.

i think the general definition of hapa as we know it (or so has been discussed) is asian/caucasian. Whether or not that is an accurate definition, I don't care. That's gonna be the definition that we're gonna use in this thread.
: ( well then, i don't have a hapa fetish then. correction: i don't have a fetish, or at least i think i don't.

Emperor_Mike
06-05-2004, 05:01 AM
Maybe? I like French/Vietnamese girls too. There was such a girl in my secondary school. Josephine. *sigh*

robotic
06-05-2004, 06:32 AM
i've known an iranian/german, vietnamese/american and a pakistani/british. great, great mixes.

AliBabaIncorporated
06-05-2004, 08:07 AM
on the other hand, one time I knew an indian/russian. terrible mix.

SunWuKong
06-05-2004, 01:22 PM
ok, i admit it.

PropellerheadCP
06-05-2004, 01:51 PM
i've known an iranian/german, vietnamese/american and a pakistani/british. great, great mixes.

I think it depends on the parents and not exactly on their nationality. I've seen some pretty ugly hapas from all sorts of mixes.

nameless
06-05-2004, 02:32 PM
i have a kristen kreuk fetish

Ron
06-05-2004, 02:55 PM
IMO, the best looking hapa chicks are Asian lookin with white features or White lookin with Asian features. I've also seen some bad mixes too. But I'm automatically exempt from having a hapa fetish. :smile:

Napoleon Chynamite
06-05-2004, 04:24 PM
IMO, the best looking hapa chicks are Asian lookin with white features or White lookin with Asian features. I've also seen some bad mixes too. But I'm automatically exempt from having a hapa fetish. :smile:

White lookin with Asian features or Asian lookin with white features? If you're talking about hapas, what else does that leave..? haha Assuming the definition is Asian/Caucasian.

rice cracker
06-05-2004, 05:05 PM
IMO, the best looking hapa chicks are Asian lookin with white features or White lookin with Asian features. I've also seen some bad mixes too. But I'm automatically exempt from having a hapa fetish. :smile:

Actually, there's a thread in the rant room about Asian Asiaphiles, so I'm sure that hapas have hapa fetishes too ;) Oh, and this cool thread, featuring an article written by one of our hapa members http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=14562&highlight=article

Hiroshi2
06-05-2004, 06:04 PM
I gotta admit a lot of white/asian girls look real good. I like brunettes.





But white/black girls is where it's at.

Irezumi Kiss
06-05-2004, 07:06 PM
I gotta admit a lot of white/asian girls look real good. I like brunettes.

But white/black girls is where it's at.
So are Asian/Black girls! (all apologies to Jennifer Beals and Jasmine Guy from Hiroshi...heh heh)

But really, now...all we are truly referring to are only those who are "hot" or physically appealing to a general consensus...model types, actors n' actresses...

If we really wanted to be fair in hapa lusting, we should also include ALL hapas, regardless if they're fine or "busted," right? Then it'd be a TRUE hapa fetish!

Hiroshi2
06-05-2004, 08:18 PM
So are Asian/Black girls! (all apologies to Jennifer Beals and Jasmine Guy from Hiroshi...heh heh)

But really, now...all we are truly referring to are only those who are "hot" or physically appealing to a general consensus...model types, actors n' actresses...

If we really wanted to be fair in hapa lusting, we should also include ALL hapas, regardless if they're fine or "busted," right? Then it'd be a TRUE hapa fetish!




Well to tell you the truth, I haven't seen a whole lot of Black/Asian girls so I can't even judge................and there are a handful of white/asian girls I've seen, they look good.



But those white/black mixed girls..................yeah.


But usually if their mom is one of those white people that's pale and ugly and has messy brown hair, then she looks like that too.......................NOT pretty. But otherwise, yeah. SWK's got a hapa fetish.................I got a white/black mix girl thing going on, LOL.

Fireblade
06-05-2004, 08:46 PM
Mmmm.... hapa's. Yes they are the sweet honey in my cup of lemon tea.

SunWuKong
06-06-2004, 12:44 AM
ok, i'm going to move this thread - because women can have hapa fetish, too. and also, this thread should be at the mercy of the hapa mods.

mrazntre
06-06-2004, 01:57 PM
I disagree that this should be in the Hapa forum.

rice cracker
06-06-2004, 02:23 PM
I disagree that this should be in the Hapa forum.

Agreed. Moving to S & H.

Irezumi Kiss
06-06-2004, 02:25 PM
Is it the "fetish" part that deconnotates the "hapa" part?

SunWuKong
06-06-2004, 02:27 PM
ok, i have communicated with mrazntre and i think this thread should go back to the Men's forum.

this thread was started as a question posed to men about their possible hapa fetish. it was specifically addressed to men and it doesn't as much have to do with hapas as men's fetish for hapas.

BeTheReds
06-06-2004, 06:58 PM
When I had a hapa fetish in HS, it was because it was a time when I was discovering myself or something. I believed that the people I was going after would be able to understand me in a cruel world where no one, even my parents could understand. (HA!)

Meeting these kinds of people only accentuated the differences between Asian dad hapas and Asian mom hapas for me, so I don't think I ever made any lasting hapa bond because of it.

I guess my Asian fetish developed sometime after that and is still going strong today.

SynRG
06-06-2004, 07:07 PM
IMO, the best looking hapa chicks are Asian lookin with white features or White lookin with Asian features. I've also seen some bad mixes too. But I'm automatically exempt from having a hapa fetish. :smile:

No ur not.. hapa's can have hapa-fetish too. There's even a particular online hapa who is famous (or infamous?) for his hapa-fetish (if u've been around EAN and hapas.com u'll know who I'm talking about).

Hiroshi2
06-06-2004, 07:16 PM
When I had a hapa fetish in HS, it was because it was a time when I was discovering myself or something. I believed that the people I was going after would be able to understand me in a cruel world where no one, even my parents could understand. (HA!)






That's true (to an extent) but that's not why I have a fetish (OK, I was exageratting when I said I had a fetish) or why I've often find myself attracting to biracial girls. A lot of them really do look good.



But yes, it can be good to have a friend who can understand where you're coming from when it comes to being mixed. Because it's hard to find somebody (besides your siblings) who really understand, and the constant questions (many of which are stupid) get annoying quick.

BeTheReds
06-06-2004, 07:48 PM
Because it's hard to find somebody (besides your siblings) who really understand.


It's not that they don't understand, it's that they've got no vested interest in caring...

Deadpool
06-06-2004, 08:39 PM
He likes Viet/French?
Is there a place where there is a lot of hapas that are specifically French and Viet or something?

BeTheReds
06-06-2004, 08:41 PM
He likes Viet/French?
Is there a place where there is a lot of hapas that are specifically French and Viet or something?


Vietnam, before 1968...

SynRG
06-06-2004, 08:44 PM
He likes Viet/French?
Is there a place where there is a lot of hapas that are specifically French and Viet or something?

And France. France has a huge Vietnamese population. I'm sure some of them must have mixed..

Deadpool
06-07-2004, 12:24 PM
It's just kinda weird. Its like me saying I got the hots for mulatttos but only if they're Ugandan and Swiss mix.

hooligan
06-07-2004, 12:32 PM
It's just kinda weird. Its like me saying I got the hots for mulatttos but only if they're Ugandan and Swiss mix.
i like white chocolate, but it's actually flavored butter.

Hiroshi2
06-07-2004, 01:54 PM
It's just kinda weird. Its like me saying I got the hots for mulatttos but only if they're Ugandan and Swiss mix.





Yeah I agree.................................that's *definitely* fetishizing and there's no real love in that.

Azn Retribution
06-07-2004, 02:57 PM
Asian girls with british accents. Yummy.

SunWuKong
06-07-2004, 03:14 PM
Asian girls with british accents. Yummy.


i never understood this fascination. i have Chinese friends that have British accents. i don't see what's so special about it. actually the thickest British accent i've ever heard came from a Chinese guy.

mr. x
06-07-2004, 03:33 PM
^---well the only one ive seen is this asian woman in Spy Game with an accent (i guess she was in Hong Kong maybe?) but it was kinda weird seeing it

SunWuKong
06-07-2004, 10:06 PM
^---well the only one ive seen is this asian woman in Spy Game with an accent (i guess she was in Hong Kong maybe?) but it was kinda weird seeing it

well you'll be able to see another one on-screen when the next Harry Potter movie is released. although she grew up in Scotland so it'll be a Scottish accent instead.

mr. x
06-07-2004, 10:55 PM
well you'll be able to see another one on-screen when the next Harry Potter movie is released. although she grew up in Scotland so it'll be a Scottish accent instead.
man oh man

i think i find white women with scottish accents exotic enough if you catch my drift

BeTheReds
06-07-2004, 11:46 PM
what a degenerate thread!

DragonKnight
06-08-2004, 03:10 AM
Asian girls with british accents. Yummy.Mmm...or Aussie for that matter.

Irezumi Kiss
06-08-2004, 12:14 PM
Asian girls with british accents. Yummy.
Doesn't get any better than Miss Maggie!
http://www.mm52.com/chineseidols/zhangmanyu/zhangmanyu.jpg

Also Marie Matiko!
http://www.dunas.com/entertainers/matiko1.jpg

Also, if it floats your boat, there is a Hapa porn star named Roxy Jezel who is half Thai and half British. I couldn't find any TAME pics to post, so Google on, brother!

Mr.Lum
06-08-2004, 12:42 PM
I like white girls. straight up. half white girls are ok too.

SunWuKong
06-08-2004, 02:00 PM
can we have a more intelligent conversation than simply declaring whether or not we have a thing for mixed girls, and declaring specifically what mixes we like?

Irezumi Kiss
06-08-2004, 02:16 PM
can we have a more intelligent conversation than simply declaring whether or not we have a thing for mixed girls, and declaring specifically what mixes we like?
Better close it. The objectification from the title alone defeats that purpose, unless someone wants to use some hundred-dollar Harvard words in a discussion just to mask over what could be said more simply with bar talk in describing their personal preferences of Hapa women.

Mr.Lum
06-08-2004, 02:39 PM
can we have a more intelligent conversation than simply declaring whether or not we have a thing for mixed girls, and declaring specifically what mixes we like?
white and others is usually cool. I dont really care as long as she looks good.

Hiroshi2
06-08-2004, 04:44 PM
I like white girls. straight up.





You sound like a black dude.



I already specified what mixes I like. So I guess I'm already part of an intelligent conversation.

kimpossible
06-09-2004, 09:06 PM
I was just reminded of this a while ago. For some reason, my Filipino friend likes white chicks. However, he's insanely obsessed with hapa chicks. Specifically, viet - french mix. He drools all over this like a dog and it's funny to me because I don't really care.

Do you have friends like this particular friend of mine? It kind of annoys me, but whatever. To each their own right?

So if an Asian guy only wants a hapa chick, is that a hapa fetish or hapaphile? What do you brothers out there think?

Are you declaring your love for me? I've been waiting for this, snookums. Gots LOTS of freckles for you to caress.

DragonKnight
06-09-2004, 09:18 PM
Are you declaring your love for me? I've been waiting for this, snookums. Gots LOTS of freckles for you to caress.Umm...err, yow-zah...? :eek:

kimpossible
06-09-2004, 09:20 PM
Umm...err, yow-zah...? :eek:

Heh. For those of you who don't know, not only does Sy find me utterly repulsive but he is frecklephobic. Makes me want to put the big smooch on him just to make him squirm.

SunWuKong
06-09-2004, 11:49 PM
I like white girls. straight up.





You sound like a black dude.



hahhahhah that's the best post i've read all night.

rice cracker
06-10-2004, 08:14 AM
Heh. For those of you who don't know, not only does Sy find me utterly repulsive but he is frecklephobic. Makes me want to put the big smooch on him just to make him squirm.

I have freckles too. Let's get him.

DragonKnight
06-10-2004, 12:21 PM
I have freckles too. Let's get him.Lol, oh the horror...

rice cracker
06-10-2004, 01:03 PM
Lol, oh the horror...

You want some of this? *puffs out freckly cheeks*

Irezumi Kiss
06-10-2004, 01:44 PM
You want some of this? *puffs out freckly cheeks*
*the freckles suddenly turn into fugu fish-like spikes, poisioning poor Dragonknight into paralysis*

:tongue:

Freckles = Sexy.

:wink:

rice cracker
06-10-2004, 01:47 PM
*the freckles suddenly turn into fugu fish-like spikes, poisioning poor Dragonknight into paralysis*

:tongue:

Freckles = Sexy.

:wink:

Hapa freckles: How nature says "Don't Touch."

DragonKnight
06-10-2004, 03:41 PM
*the freckles suddenly turn into fugu fish-like spikes, poisioning poor Dragonknight into paralysis*

:tongue:

Freckles = Sexy.

:wink:Fugkers, someone help me...:eek:

...why do I feel so calm and serene staring at rice cracker's freckles now...? :confused:

SunWuKong
06-10-2004, 09:32 PM
in one last attempt to make this a valid thread, since we've seemed to have gone off-topic by now...

i don't know if we've talked about this on YW before, but how did the hapa fetish begin? i know how the Asian female fetish begin, but how about the hapa fetish? because historically speaking, haven't people of mixed heritage been looked down upon in pretty much most cultures around the world? but then again, you can definitely be sexually objectified while being looked down upon at the same time.

mr. x
06-10-2004, 09:46 PM
^---well ive never actually known of a "hapa fetish" more like a general marketing puish towards mixed people or racially ambiguous types (vin diesel anyone)

plus a lot of mixed who can pass for white obviously get all sorts of priveleges with it

SunWuKong
06-10-2004, 09:52 PM
plus a lot of mixed who can pass for white obviously get all sorts of priveleges with it


but i would think they probably garner more of an "outsider" attitude from other Asian people.

mr. x
06-10-2004, 10:59 PM
but i would think they probably garner more of an "outsider" attitude from other Asian people.
nonono from whites who think they are white

jennifer tilly

dean cain

kristin kreuk

mark dacoscos

keanu reeves

and blacks who think they are black:

tiger woods

Fireblade
06-10-2004, 11:35 PM
mine developed because the first girl I was ever attracted to was hapa.

Hiroshi2
06-11-2004, 03:00 AM
You remember the first girl you were ever attracted to? I don't.

Fireblade
06-11-2004, 04:34 AM
You remember the first girl you were ever attracted to? I don't.

Well I did kiss her. We did make out. But we weren't bf and gf. So yea... it was weird how that turned out. And she was my best friend at the time.

Cipherous
06-11-2004, 08:27 AM
nonono from whites who think they are white

jennifer tilly

dean cain

kristin kreuk

mark dacoscos

keanu reeves

and blacks who think they are black:

tiger woods
I agree with the list but I think Kristin Kreuk is widely accepted as a hapa.

In addition, you have to remember what America deems black, if you have some black in you or remotely look like you have some black in you then you are Black. Thus, you can see why alot of people see Tiger woods as a black man. Whereas in Thailand, hes seen as mixed.

SunWuKong
06-11-2004, 10:36 AM
nonono from whites who think they are white

jennifer tilly

dean cain

kristin kreuk

mark dacoscos

keanu reeves

and blacks who think they are black:

tiger woods


to be honest, if i wasn't told, just by looking at their pictures, the only one on that list whom i would have thought is mixed is Mark Dacoscos.

mr. x
06-11-2004, 11:21 AM
^---hell mark d i woulda thought was just plain ol cajun or something and id go "oooooh"

I agree with the list but I think Kristin Kreuk is widely accepted as a hapa.

well lets put it this way, if u took a handful of white kids who watch say smallville, and u told em she was half asian would they go "i know" or "yeah i can kinda see that?"

or could you see them goign "uh, no shes not"

Hiroshi2
06-11-2004, 11:43 AM
I still like black/white girls

Irezumi Kiss
06-11-2004, 11:55 AM
well lets put it this way, if u took a handful of white kids who watch say smallville, and u told em she was half asian would they go "i know" or "yeah i can kinda see that?"

or could you see them goign "uh, no shes not"
They probably think Bjork is half-Asian if that's the case!

I still like black/white girls
Thandie Newton! Wooo hooo!

:wink:

Hiroshi2
06-11-2004, 12:02 PM
Thandie Newton! Wooo hooo!

:wink:






Who is she? Post pics please.

thaite
06-11-2004, 12:07 PM
They probably think Bjork is half-Asian if that's the case!


bjork (http://www.bo-films.net/compositeurs/bjork/dancer_in_the_dark/bjork.jpg)

yoko ono (http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/pressreleases/0110/yoko.jpg)


hmmmmmmm...

SunWuKong
06-11-2004, 12:27 PM
well lets put it this way, if u took a handful of white kids who watch say smallville, and u told em she was half asian would they go "i know" or "yeah i can kinda see that?"

or could you see them goign "uh, no shes not"


so what does that have to do with the hapa fetish?

Irezumi Kiss
06-11-2004, 12:49 PM
so what does that have to do with the hapa fetish?
Probably in this way...once they find out that Kruek is hapa, then she might become more "interesting," more interesting than she was when she was just "straight-up White."

"I THOUGHT there was SOMETHING about her!"

Kuchana
06-11-2004, 12:52 PM
Who is she? Post pics please.

Chick that played Tom Cruise's love interest in Mission Impossible 2.
She's half Zambian/half Australian or British I think?

achtungbaby
06-11-2004, 04:09 PM
I was just reminded of this a while ago. For some reason, my Filipino friend likes white chicks. However, he's insanely obsessed with hapa chicks. Specifically, viet - french mix. He drools all over this like a dog and it's funny to me because I don't really care.

Do you have friends like this particular friend of mine? It kind of annoys me, but whatever. To each their own right?

So if an Asian guy only wants a hapa chick, is that a hapa fetish or hapaphile? What do you brothers out there think?
Please be mindful as to the intent / purpose of this thread.

It is not to tell everyone what mixed types of girls you like to hump; go make that announcement elsewhere, or better yet, not at all! :rolleyes:

Otherwise this sucker's gonna close.

mrazntre
06-11-2004, 04:20 PM
Right

My only intention of opening this thread was to see if any of you ASIAN GUYS had friends out there that were goo goo ga ga over certain hapa mixes or just hapas in general. Did you have good or bad experiences as the third party observing that scenario?

Personally, I don't really like those comments that my friend makes. It's annoying and I just think he's stupid and hopeless. When hearing things like that, how does it make you feel ?

DragonKnight
06-11-2004, 04:38 PM
Right

My only intention of opening this thread was to see if any of you ASIAN GUYS had friends out there that were goo goo ga ga over certain hapa mixes or just hapas in general. Did you have good or bad experiences as the third party observing that scenario?For me, a few times from the same guy. But he's the same with Asian chicks as well. He's white though he's likes to point out part-hispanic and goes as far as saying he's of Aztec blood. :rolleyes: But yeah, not the greatest experience when he gushes how he LOVES hapa chicks, especially half-Japanese ones. Glad I never introduced him to my half-Filipina friend. She probably would've cut his nuts off being the hardcore feminist she is. :biggrin:


Personally, I don't really like those comments that my friend makes. It's annoying and I just think he's stupid and hopeless. When hearing things like that, how does it make you feel ?I find it annoying as well. Whenever I hear the fugker gush off about it it makes me feel like he's demeaning her. As in valuing her simply on the fact that she's hapa...and nothing else. Kinda like how guys can go off on tits and ass. But in this case, its ethnic.

SynRG
06-11-2004, 11:09 PM
in one last attempt to make this a valid thread, since we've seemed to have gone off-topic by now...

i don't know if we've talked about this on YW before, but how did the hapa fetish begin? i know how the Asian female fetish begin, but how about the hapa fetish? because historically speaking, haven't people of mixed heritage been looked down upon in pretty much most cultures around the world? but then again, you can definitely be sexually objectified while being looked down upon at the same time.

I think it began whenever someone decided that if you mix something with Asian you make it hotter. Figure out how that came about, and you have the source of hapa-fetish ;).

On thing I think that makes hapa fetish different from asian fetish is w/ hapa's there's no set culture... so you don't ever really get any of these "i wanna be hapa" guys (like you know how there are those "i wanna be asian and i'm all into asian culture" white guys?)... hapa fetish is almost totally centered around physical looks.... with the exception of maybe when it comes from other hapas.

Also, i think hapa fetish is different in Asia than in the U.S... in the states, I think hapa fetish's roots are pretty in sync w/ Asian fetish... it's just a twist on the same thing.... however in Asia, i think hapa fetish's roots prolly have a link to white imperialism in the East- being part white can be somewhat of a status symbol in some Asian countries... even today.

SunWuKong
06-12-2004, 12:00 AM
Also, i think hapa fetish is different in Asia than in the U.S... in the states, I think hapa fetish's roots are pretty in sync w/ Asian fetish... it's just a twist on the same thing.... however in Asia, i think hapa fetish's roots prolly have a link to white imperialism in the East- being part white can be somewhat of a status symbol in some Asian countries... even today.

that's a possibility. but remember, white people are seen as exotic in Asia. this is especially true for white blonde girls. so it could also be a twist on simple white fetish.

mr. x
06-12-2004, 12:32 AM
that's a possibility. but remember, white people are seen as exotic in Asia. this is especially true for white blonde girls. so it could also be a twist on simple white fetish.
notice how white women are always mysterious and evil in hong kong flicks?

cept of course for the german chick in operation condor who was just plain dumb

SunWuKong
06-12-2004, 01:13 PM
notice how white women are always mysterious and evil in hong kong flicks?

except for Cynthia Rothrock (http://www.kungfucinema.com/articles/2004-04-18-01.htm). i think her characters have almost always been on the good side.

Catnip Dream
06-17-2004, 05:58 AM
It's those emo boys w/ that Weezer song. But it seems that art folks and musicians have always had a strong appreciation/borderline fetish for Eastern tastes. Except for Robert Mapplethorpe, unfortunately.

ellsworth81
06-17-2004, 06:39 AM
that's a possibility. but remember, white people are seen as exotic in Asia. this is especially true for white blonde girls. so it could also be a twist on simple white fetish.
white women occasionally show up in HK porn, doing the HK men.

DragonKnight
06-17-2004, 10:00 AM
white women occasionally show up in HK porn, doing the HK men.Ah, but the question is...do they look good? The white women that is. :biggrin:

SunWuKong
06-17-2004, 11:35 AM
white women occasionally show up in HK porn, doing the HK men.


really? that's funny. i actually haven't seen much HK porn. American porn is a lot more raunchy.

stunninglyAsian
06-17-2004, 12:05 PM
The few hapas I know aren't anything to drool at, at least for me, but they're pretty cool people to hang around with. So I guess I just see them like other people.

yoMAMA
06-17-2004, 08:51 PM
Ah, but the question is...do they look good? The white women that is. :biggrin:

my guess:

HK cinema probably does not recruit white women from the ricky lake show...... :tongue:

mr. x
06-17-2004, 09:49 PM
my guess:

HK cinema probably does not recruit white women from the ricky lake show...... :tongue:
white women in asian cinema are freaky though (in the fear inducing sense)

i think they are european thats how they get that exotic look but yeah

SunWuKong
06-17-2004, 10:55 PM
i think they are european thats how they get that exotic look but yeah


European women are more exotic looking? :confused:

mr. x
06-17-2004, 11:37 PM
European women are more exotic looking? :confused:
yes yes i know

"but they are white, same thing"

but european women do have a different look n'est pas?

do fobs and abcs look the same?

SunWuKong
06-18-2004, 01:52 AM
yes yes i know

"but they are white, same thing"

but european women do have a different look n'est pas?

do fobs and abcs look the same?

yeah they look different. but i guess i've seen enough of different kinds of people to the point that i don't really think anybody looked "exotic" anymore. exotic to me is if i go to the Amazon and there are naked chicks running around with face paint on. if anything, white Americans would probably be considered more "exotic" than Europeans because of the mix-breeding of different European ethnicities.

mr. x
06-18-2004, 11:24 AM
well i use the "e" word liberally, but everyone does really

i guess i havent been to europe all that much nor do i watch pbs a lot so yeah, but you can tell the women in asian films are european (or aussie or some other island white people) as opposed to the valley girl variety