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>:^|
05-03-2004, 07:36 PM
Do you have good friends that you consider to be in a different social class? I have a couple of mega-rich friends. It's a little disconcerting to go to their parties, because the majority of their friends are also very rich. So I usually have the only shitbox parked in the driveway.

I also have a couple of friends who are significantly poorer than I am, but that doesn't seem to matter much. Probably because we came up together and our family lives were similar?

So how do your friends stack up, class-wise?

TB4000
05-03-2004, 07:44 PM
Most of my associates are pretty much either middle class or lower. I know a few people that are somewhat on the wealthy side, and we talk on occasion, but they're not like "I can come to you if I have a flat tire and I know for certain you'll be down to come and get me" type of friends.

Seamus
05-03-2004, 07:47 PM
Most of my friends are middle class or upper middle class, but two of my best friends come from working class families.

Hiroshi2
05-03-2004, 08:23 PM
I knew this one white kid who wasn't neccessarily rich himself, but his best friends were pretty rich. Like they lived on big mansions on the mountain and drove Ferraris and Mercedes 500SL's, etc. And I went to one of their parties and I felt a bit out of place. One of my mom's japanese friends is so rich she has two houses - her regular house which is like fucking huge, and then their "weekend home" (i.e. ranch) a little bit further down the road, with a lake and a bunch of acres of land, etc. I didn't feel like I fit in, because of racial, cultural, and class lines.

SunWuKong
05-03-2004, 09:51 PM
does pip count as my friend?

Chester
05-03-2004, 10:04 PM
Do you have good friends that you consider to be in a different social class?It doesn't seem like too much of an issue as nobody is ridiculously extravagant in their spending habits, so nothing more than a moderate income is necessary to participate in group stuff...especially if one picks and chooses which things to participate in.

Most importantly my circle is pretty close-knit and everyone is sensitive to each other. Nobody rubs material acquisitions in the faces of another. We take care of each other with the understanding that this doesn't entail an opening for blatant freeloading...and nobody would be like that, anyway.

mr. x
05-03-2004, 10:22 PM
does pip count as my friend?

pipsy? wouldnt she be like a different sexual class?

moJo
05-04-2004, 01:27 AM
most of my friends are middle or working class (like my fam). i have probably two friends whose families are upper-middle class, though they may arguably be upper-class (new money that the parents made themselves). i'm not quite sure where the line is drawn btwn upper-middle and upper, so, yeah, i'm just guessing here...

hooligan
05-04-2004, 01:30 AM
ah, most of them arefrom ucla. middle to upper-middle. sometimes it feels a bit too rich for my blood. (i come from a blue-collar working class family)

BigLew
05-04-2004, 09:56 AM
I'm dirt poor and unemployed and so are most of my friends.

Faithless
05-04-2004, 10:14 AM
I forget what friends are, since I've pissed them all off.

I have allies, instead -- from all classes.

thaite
05-04-2004, 03:44 PM
My friends have no class.

Emperor_Mike
05-04-2004, 04:23 PM
Sadly, I have none. All my friends are upper-middle to upper class. I need to diversify.

I also don't like using the term "upper class." Money doesn't buy class. The person who came up with this should be shot.

Faithless
05-05-2004, 10:09 AM
Sadly, I have none. All my friends are upper-middle to upper class. I need to diversify.
Shhhnob! :biggrin:

I also don't like using the term "upper class." Money doesn't buy class. The person who came up with this should be shot.
Here, here! Karma!

Chester
05-05-2004, 12:43 PM
Here, here! Karma!Good show, old chum!

Emperor_Mike
05-05-2004, 02:03 PM
Good show, old chum!

Okay, contrary to popular belief (as packaged and delivered by television) English people don't speak like that.

Anymore.

Which is disappointing.

Mr.Lum
05-05-2004, 04:09 PM
yes.

Chester
05-05-2004, 04:21 PM
Which is disappointing.'Tis frightfully dreadful, isn't it, old bean?

Faithless
05-05-2004, 05:33 PM
Okay, contrary to popular belief (as packaged and delivered by television) English people don't speak like that.

Anymore.

Which is disappointing.
But they do like to say "bloody" this and "bloody" that.

Emperor_Mike
05-05-2004, 11:54 PM
'Tis frightfully dreadful, isn't it, old bean?

Yes, rather. Bloody disappointment, what?

But they do like to say "bloody" this and "bloody" that.

The English are a bloodthirsty lot.

amietron
05-06-2004, 12:03 AM
most are within or around my social class. i don't have a very diverse lot of friends.

Emperor_Mike
05-06-2004, 12:13 AM
Actually, Chotto is correctly in a way. It *does* seem terribly snobbish not to have friends from the...er...less affluent rungs of society. There might be a reason for this perhaps. I've noticed from having spent time with my friends that the well-heeled have a tendency to be incredibly insensitive as far as taking into consideration the cash resources of others is concerned. If all of your friends are stuffed to the gills with trust fund moolah it's probably only natural that you'd expect no financial restraints when social events are being organised. Birthday dinners and weekend brunches that run from $150-$200 a person is *not* something everyone can afford to partake in. Nor can you expect everyone in your social circle to shell out $1000-$2000 every year for a Christmas gift exchange.

Of course, getting people to change isn't easy. God knows I've tried to get the people I know to "go for a coffee at Starbucks" or "watch a film at so-and-so's house or my house" rather than eat out at some stupidly expensive restaurant and drink until everyone's in a coma. I suppose getting a diverse group of people together from all social classes can only be done if everyone is willing to do something that's not going to cost a month's salary in one night.

amietron
05-06-2004, 12:20 AM
Actually, Chotto is correctly in a way. It *does* seem terribly snobbish not to have friends from the...er...less affluent rungs of society. There might be a reason for this perhaps. I've noticed from having spent time with my friends that the well-heeled have a tendency to be incredibly insensitive as far as taking into consideration the cash resources of others is concerned. If all of your friends are stuffed to the gills with trust fund moolah it's probably only natural that you'd expect no financial restraints when social events are being organised. Birthday dinners and weekend brunches that run from $150-$200 a person is *not* something everyone can afford to partake in. Nor can you expect everyone in your social circle to shell out $1000-$2000 every year for a Christmas gift exchange.

Of course, getting people to change isn't easy. God knows I've tried to get the people I know to "go for a coffee at Starbucks" or "watch a film at so-and-so's house or my house" rather than eat out at some stupidly expensive restaurant and drink until everyone's in a coma. I suppose getting a diverse group of people together from all social classes can only be done if everyone is willing to do something that's not going to cost a month's salary in one night.
or, simply put, you're comfortable around people who are "like you." plus, it's convenient.

Emperor_Mike
05-06-2004, 12:55 AM
or, simply put, you're comfortable around people who are "like you." plus, it's convenient.

I suppose that's another valid reason. Still, I think it's pretty unfair. Sadly, I'm one of two people in my group who thinks this way.

amietron
05-06-2004, 03:42 AM
I suppose that's another valid reason. Still, I think it's pretty unfair. Sadly, I'm one of two people in my group who thinks this way.
yeah. invisible boundary lines according to social status, ethnicity, etc.

some would argue that this is the way things should be.

>:^|
05-06-2004, 11:22 AM
or, simply put, you're comfortable around people who are "like you." plus, it's convenient.

Well, how much does wealth mean commonality?

I don't mean to give the impression that my rich friends are a bunch of thoughtless boors. Although I did get invited to a weekend party in the south of France. And usually when we socialize, it's at each other's houses. We rarely eat out together. When we were talking about it once, I really had the feeling one of my friends was trying to downplay where they went.

But although my friends are not snobs, their friends sometimes are.
:tongue:

applehead
05-06-2004, 11:58 AM
i do have a couple of friends who have very rich
parents but rich themselves no.
so it doesn't really have any effect on the things
we do or activities we choose to participate in.