"You're fired" for real!

[Redhawk]

Getting fired is one of the most emotional experince to have; next to someone telling you that they don't love you. Being fired is heatbreaking, and it can shake your confidence down to zero. I've been fired a few time, and I know how it feels.

Have you ever been fired? How did you cope?

[TB4000]

Yeah, before I did IT work for the campus I worked in registration for three years, then we got new management. They put down that they were downsizing, but told me I was being let go due to their style of management not meshing with my work style. In other words, the a-holes didn't care for me personally so they decided to get rid of me.

[yoMAMA]

no....haven't...yet..... :biggrin:

[kimpossible]

I've never been fired but I have been chastised for turning down a job because of how I turned it down and why. I was offered an opportunity for an internship in Japan. At the beginning it seemed like a dream come true. Not only was it a paid internship but they offered to pay for my apartment and living expenses. How could this go wrong? Well I'll tell you...

The guy offering the position was a white American male, and don't let that sway you, there are some very adept white American males who do business in Asia that aren't losers, Asiaphiles, etc. Anyhow, after grilling me over the phone he decided he liked me and wanted to meet in person to hammer out details.

Long story shorter, at the last minute he changed the meeting place from public to at his house. Additionally he was upset that I wasn't treating him like he was Japanese although I explained to him that he wasn't Japanese (he was a white American male) and there really wasn't any way for me to be 'Japanese' with him. We were both American, in America, there was no reason to act Japanese per his definition. Well, I told him flat out I was more comfortable with our previous arrangement, the one we had for weeks, that I was to meet him in public.

It went from bad to worse there. He wanted to know how if any of my family had a direct interest in my life and that he would have the sole control over my living arrangements including the only other key to my apartment and he refused to stick to our public meeting arrangement, becoming furious that I wouldn't come to his house.

I then told the person in charge of my internship that I wasn't a good match for the opportunity, never even badmouthed the guy to them and they totally bitched me out. I wasn't exactly fired, I never was even truly hired, but it was a fiasco nonetheless. For years I wondered if I had made the right decision but I think trusting my instincts was the right way to go.

[Redhawk]

I've never been fired but I have been chastised for turning down a job because of how I turned it down and why. I was offered an opportunity for an internship in Japan. At the beginning it seemed like a dream come true. Not only was it a paid internship but they offered to pay for my apartment and living expenses. How could this go wrong? Well I'll tell you...

The guy offering the position was a white American male, and don't let that sway you, there are some very adept white American males who do business in Asia that aren't losers, Asiaphiles, etc. Anyhow, after grilling me over the phone he decided he liked me and wanted to meet in person to hammer out details.

Long story shorter, at the last minute he changed the meeting place from public to at his house. Additionally he was upset that I wasn't treating him like he was Japanese although I explained to him that he wasn't Japanese (he was a white American male) and there really wasn't any way for me to be 'Japanese' with him. We were both American, in America, there was no reason to act Japanese per his definition. Well, I told him flat out I was more comfortable with our previous arrangement, the one we had for weeks, that I was to meet him in public.

It went from bad to worse there. He wanted to know how if any of my family had a direct interest in my life and that he would have the sole control over my living arrangements including the only other key to my apartment and he refused to stick to our public meeting arrangement, becoming furious that I wouldn't come to his house.

I then told the person in charge of my internship that I wasn't a good match for the opportunity, never even badmouthed the guy to them and they totally bitched me out. I wasn't exactly fired, I never was even truly hired, but it was a fiasco nonetheless. For years I wondered if I had made the right decision but I think trusting my instincts was the right way to go.


He sounded like a sick prevert who wanted to rape you! You're lucky you turned down his offer. You were very wise to not fall for his meeting at "his house". And he said that
"he would have sole control over my living arrangements including the only other key to my apartment" this would had allow him to enter your apartment any time he please.
I hope somone stop him before he lure an another innocent young woman to his lair.

[missmeow]

Yeah, go with your gut. That situation sounds utterly creepy just by your description. Imagine if you had found yourself in a foreign country where you know nothing of the laws and ways to protect yourself and with some creepy guy having the key to your who wants you to treat him like he is "Japanese." I wonder what kind of "Japanese treatment" he was expecting *rolls eyes*

Yes, you are a smart cookie to turn down that "opportunity."

[kimpossible]

^Yeah I know but I figure I'm not usually Japanese enough for most Japanophiles (unless they're non-Japanese Asian) and I'd like to think of myself as a tough girl like I could have put the guy in his place if he got out of hand. It bothered me that I backed down from a male even if it was the better decision in hindsight, stupid as that may sound.

[deez nuts]

I've never been fired but I have been chastised for turning down a job because of how I turned it down and why. I was offered an opportunity for an internship in Japan. At the beginning it seemed like a dream come true. Not only was it a paid internship but they offered to pay for my apartment and living expenses. How could this go wrong? Well I'll tell you...

The guy offering the position was a white American male, and don't let that sway you, there are some very adept white American males who do business in Asia that aren't losers, Asiaphiles, etc. Anyhow, after grilling me over the phone he decided he liked me and wanted to meet in person to hammer out details.

Long story shorter, at the last minute he changed the meeting place from public to at his house. Additionally he was upset that I wasn't treating him like he was Japanese although I explained to him that he wasn't Japanese (he was a white American male) and there really wasn't any way for me to be 'Japanese' with him. We were both American, in America, there was no reason to act Japanese per his definition. Well, I told him flat out I was more comfortable with our previous arrangement, the one we had for weeks, that I was to meet him in public.

It went from bad to worse there. He wanted to know how if any of my family had a direct interest in my life and that he would have the sole control over my living arrangements including the only other key to my apartment and he refused to stick to our public meeting arrangement, becoming furious that I wouldn't come to his house.

I then told the person in charge of my internship that I wasn't a good match for the opportunity, never even badmouthed the guy to them and they totally bitched me out. I wasn't exactly fired, I never was even truly hired, but it was a fiasco nonetheless. For years I wondered if I had made the right decision but I think trusting my instincts was the right way to go.

that's just asking too much information and digging to deep personally for a job interview.

[Redhawk]

^Yeah I know but I figure I'm not usually Japanese enough for most Japanophiles (unless they're non-Japanese Asian) and I'd like to think of myself as a tough girl like I could have put the guy in his place if he got out of hand. It bothered me that I backed down from a male even if it was the better decision in hindsight, stupid as that may sound.

Hey! Don't be so hard on yourself. You showed him that you were not going to placate his raging hormones. When you turned down his ridiculos offer, you put him in his place.
And if you were to report him, he probably would have denied everything; it would be your word against his. You simply would not have any proof. I only hope that some other girl didn't fall in his trap.

[John0101]

I got fired once from KBToys, they caught me eating the store candy and opening up a pack of pokemon cards. It wasn't so bad, they told me "don't come back to work till we call you".

[jimbo]

Yup its happened to me right now about 40 minutes ago.

I started a new contract role working for a North American Investment Bank and was pretty much put straight in the role with 30 minutes training on their inhouse call logging system, I had no support from my colleagues and it was only myself doing that role.

I hadn't been getting any negative feedback whatsoever from the company and then on the way home today I get a call to say that I'm no longer needed.

:mad:

Oh and I forgot to add that I turned down a higher paid role than this one because this job had prospects and there was a likelihood of an extension to the contract.

So I've now had to crawl back to the consultancy and tell them whats happened and that i am now interested in the role.

[rice cracker]

Damn, that's harsh jimbo!

[Kuchana]

that's horrible jimbo! sorry to hear that:(

[kimpossible]

I'm glad you're going for the other one even though it initially might be an awkward situation. *salute*

[blueblue79]

yeah,,i have had similar situation, where i got called from employer saying i did not need to come to work on Monday, i felt nothing, because i wanted to quit anyways, it was my summer job over the summer break in between of my school...but i dont' know what i would possibly feel if i get a call from employer saying that to me....well...i hope i will never get to know how that feels...........:P

[TB4000]

Well, two years later, and today I go into the office only to be told that me, along with three other guys are being cut from our positions due to budget decisions. So I have now been fired for the second time in my life, or downsized, however you wanna put it....i do believe fate has been using me as its doormat as of late.

[Faithless]

Damn shame! Hope it wasn't your dream job. :frown:

[Emperor_Mike]

No, I haven't been fired before. I hope I won't be in the future either!

Hope.

[jimbo]

Well, two years later, and today I go into the office only to be told that me, along with three other guys are being cut from our positions due to budget decisions. So I have now been fired for the second time in my life, or downsized, however you wanna put it....i do believe fate has been using me as its doormat as of late.


Yep been there recently, I was made redundant as my job role was being relocated to scotland so they can cut a third off my salary, So guess what happens a few months later?

My job was re-advertised and paying a higher salary than I was on, And I wasn't allowed to apply.

:mad:

[kitty]

Well, two years later, and today I go into the office only to be told that me, along with three other guys are being cut from our positions due to budget decisions. So I have now been fired for the second time in my life, or downsized, however you wanna put it....i do believe fate has been using me as its doormat as of late.

oh god... i'm sorry to hear that!!

[TB4000]

I got a couple interviews lined up...not exactly places I can see myself working at permanently, but I have rent to pay, so you know how it is. If they make an offer, I'll probably take it.

[Faithless]

No, I haven't been fired before. I hope I won't be in the future either!

Hope.
Don't try out for the UN Security Council, then. :rolleyes:

[kasia]

I've never been fired but I have been chastised for turning down a job because of how I turned it down and why. I was offered an opportunity for an internship in Japan. At the beginning it seemed like a dream come true. Not only was it a paid internship but they offered to pay for my apartment and living expenses. How could this go wrong? Well I'll tell you...

The guy offering the position was a white American male, and don't let that sway you, there are some very adept white American males who do business in Asia that aren't losers, Asiaphiles, etc. Anyhow, after grilling me over the phone he decided he liked me and wanted to meet in person to hammer out details.

Long story shorter, at the last minute he changed the meeting place from public to at his house. Additionally he was upset that I wasn't treating him like he was Japanese although I explained to him that he wasn't Japanese (he was a white American male) and there really wasn't any way for me to be 'Japanese' with him. We were both American, in America, there was no reason to act Japanese per his definition. Well, I told him flat out I was more comfortable with our previous arrangement, the one we had for weeks, that I was to meet him in public.

It went from bad to worse there. He wanted to know how if any of my family had a direct interest in my life and that he would have the sole control over my living arrangements including the only other key to my apartment and he refused to stick to our public meeting arrangement, becoming furious that I wouldn't come to his house.

I then told the person in charge of my internship that I wasn't a good match for the opportunity, never even badmouthed the guy to them and they totally bitched me out. I wasn't exactly fired, I never was even truly hired, but it was a fiasco nonetheless. For years I wondered if I had made the right decision but I think trusting my instincts was the right way to go.

out of curiosity, why didn't you badmouth him? i think your internship office should have felt bad or taken some sort of responsibility for not fully screening the employers that they refer their students to. i wouldn't have gone either. imagine - if he wanted the first interview to be at his house, what would he have asked for next if you accepted the job and went to japan with him.

[Emperor_Mike]

Don't try out for the UN Security Council, then. :rolleyes:

I don't think I can even if I wanted to. Well...not as one of the P5 in any case. I wonder when it's Canada's turn to sit in the SC? :confused:

I'm going the way of Kofi, actually. Insert myself into the UN as a worker and not as a MS delegate. Although if Canada wants to appoint me UN Ambassador I have no qualms about it. :biggrin:

[jz87]

Maybe people should get how to handle getting fired training in college. It's a good way to prepare for life. I think handling rejection is possibly one of the hardest challenges that no one prepares you for in life. I'm not sure how one can replicate having financial pressures and being fired, but if it's possible I think it'd help cut down on the instances of depression and suicides.

[tommyhtown]

It sucks! The financial hardship is obvious, but I think the worse part is at the emotional level. When it happenned to me I was informed in the morning to immediately pack my belongings and was escorted out by my manager. I remembered feeling incompetent, useless, and helpless. I didn't even tell my family and friends about it. It hit the all-time low for me when I had to lie or pretend to have a job to people close to me.

Now with all the conmpanies' lay-offs and downturns in IT plus the Enron thing that have happened over the period 3 years, I think people in general including myself would probably handle it better now than before.

[tommyhtown]

^ Having said that just a couple of weeks ago, I think I will be joining the rank of the unemployed after the holiday. Downsizing is a bitch. I think I am gonna get out of IT and do the 'run-my-own mom&pop shop' like my parents.

[TB4000]

Well, after all this runaround, I finally landed a position at this mid-sized company called MTA Data Solutions here in Chicago...my title is marketing executive, which is more or less a fancy term for helping out the account managers with sales, and concocting new ways to persuade businesses to use our internet and wireless services. Let's see how it pans out.

[Faithless]

Well, after all this runaround, I finally landed a position at this mid-sized company called MTA Data Solutions here in Chicago...my title is marketing executive, which is more or less a fancy term for helping out the account managers with sales, and concocting new ways to persuade businesses to use our internet and wireless services. Let's see how it pans out.
Crossing my fingers for yah!!!

I've been lucky, but because of office politics have felt the heavy breath of potentialityness.

I remember when a few long time data entry clerks got "laid off" in favor of automation, and I was heartbroken. They were good people, and that was first negative experience with the effects of computerization. :frown:

[TB4000]

First day on the job....didn't do too much except go through orientation. Now I have to collaborate with other creative marketers and get our product out there, or we're all fired...=P

[Furious Ming]

fired twice, laid off twice. i seem to have a problem with chronic unemployment. got fired once for punching a coworker. fortunately, he didnt press charges. the second was due to me taking loooong lunches. i had a few drinks too. management did not really like that, even though it was with clients. what can i say, i like to eat. it relaxes me and makes me a good worker. i bet i would have gotten a free pass if i was in japan with all that but water under the bridge for all i care. i work for myself now, and am doing much much better. please please please people try to work for yourself. they will only let you go so far unless you sellout.

[archspeed]

Just got let go a month ago. I came in and didn't see my time card, I knew something was up. Manager came over and wanted to have a few words with me. I knew right then they were going to let me go. And they did. We had a good conversation, I didn't get mad or anything. After that I just grabbed my stuffs and walked out the door, on the way out I see the guy who I think is about to replace me, standing there talking to the CEO with coffee and laughing and all that good stuff.

Nothing major, I came out the door, took a deep breath, called up 2 of my friends, and went to a Vietnamese cafe shop where I proceeded to lit up a few cigs.

I'm getting out of IT now, switching to something else business-related.

The funny thing, though, is that apparently that new guy couldn't handle my job duty. 2 weeks after I was let go, the CEO repeatedly called me back and asked for my help in managing the database again. From what I can discern, they (or the new guy) screwed some shit up royally. Oh well, MySQL and VB.Net are never easy to manage together anyway HAHAHAH!

Needless to say, I didn't want to come and help them out, even with pay. What comes around, goes around. Now I'm doing computer sales at an electronics store while getting my loan agent license...

[mndeg]

what kind of loan agent and what exactly will you do?

[archspeed]

I dunno, I'll figure it out once I get my CA real estate license. I won't be making crazy bank, but hopefully good enough to build for the future.

I'm still planning to go back for a Master in Comp Sci though, probably focusing on semantic web research. My first love is computer, and I'd still love to get a computer-related job. But life demands money to survive, and thus my decision.

Life's FVCKED UP!!!! *Lit up a cig*

[Craig]

I dunno, I'll figure it out once I get my CA real estate license. I won't be making crazy bank, but hopefully good enough to build for the future.

I'm still planning to go back for a Master in Comp Sci though, probably focusing on semantic web research. My first love is computer, and I'd still love to get a computer-related job. But life demands money to survive, and thus my decision.

Life's FVCKED UP!!!! *Lit up a cig* If you want, you can send me your resume (text version only) & I can input it into the company's HR system. I, of course, can't promise anything and it's probably a long shot. However, they are paying for me to get a MSCS while I work.

[archspeed]

Sounds cool, Craig! Let me touch that resume up!

One question? Do I put in the job that I got fired from as experience? That would be iffy, eh?

[Craig]

Sounds cool, Craig! Let me touch that resume up!

One question? Do I put in the job that I got fired from as experience? That would be iffy, eh?
Depends on how old you are and how much experience you have. I do work where they will check. I just use "year ranges" instead of "month/year" ranges to keep the managers from getting all weird, what were you doing for those 3 months, etc. Course, that may not go over too well if you are too young.

[tommyhtown]

The funny thing, though, is that apparently that new guy couldn't handle my job duty. 2 weeks after I was let go, the CEO repeatedly called me back and asked for my help in managing the database again. From what I can discern, they (or the new guy) screwed some shit up royally. Oh well, MySQL and VB.Net are never easy to manage together anyway HAHAHAH!

Needless to say, I didn't want to come and help them out, even with pay. What comes around, goes around. Now I'm doing computer sales at an electronics store while getting my loan agent license...

Go help them out but charge them an hourly rate. Take advantage of the situation. Well that's what I would do.


One question? Do I put in the job that I got fired from as experience? That would be iffy, eh?

Generally speaking, your past employer or supervisor would not normally dog you. They can get in trouble for it. Besides you were terminated for 'cause.' That 'cause' could be anything -- high salary, budget cut, etc.

[TB4000]

Considering leaving this job, as another offer may be on the table at SEI aka www.sei-it.com

If they want me, they gots me...I like this place and all, but the radio station is set to easy '80's listening permanently, and after hearing "get out of my dreams...get into my car" about 3 times a day, it gets a little maddening.