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kitty
02-17-2004, 09:19 PM
Mystic River

What is it about pseudo-arthouse films that can make you leaving the theatre with a definitive 'hmmmm...' in your face? Mystic River, the newest endeavour by director Clint Eastwood, is heavy, thought-provoking, and mostly just kind of depressing. I left the theatre thinking neither 'Wow, that was good', nor 'Boy, that sucked!' but really just this: 'Hmmmm....' Eastwood movies are notoriously dramatic, and this one was no exception, and it took hours for me to fully process to the end. Needless to say, in the era of 50 First Dates popcorn fluff, they don't make movies like this anymore.

Chock full of Academy Award nominations, Mystic River, set in urban Boston, follows the story of three childhood friends, Jimmy (Sean Penn), Sean (Kevin Bacon) and Dave (Tim Robbins) who are ripped apart by a terrible event, only to be later reunited, again through tragedy -- the murder of Jimmy's nineteen-year-old daughter, Katie (Emmy Rossum). By the time the friends find one another, life has taken its toll for all of them, and as the mystery of Katie's death deepens, the three men are drawn into a vortex of emotion, and even suspicion of one another.

But the movie is only superficially about Katie's death. The true tragedy of the film is the event that tore the group apart many years earlier. None of the three men have atoned for what happened so long ago, nor have they truly atoned for many of their adult sins. It is this process of punishment and forgiveness that the movie narrates, and about those who are sacrificed for the sake of forgiveness.

A movie overflowing with top-notch male actors, it's no surprise that Mystic River made it's way into both the Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor categories in this year's Oscars. Sean Penn is his usual gruff, brooding self (with the also usual moments of full-blown hysteria and hyper-emotionality). Though I am not a fan of Penn's work, in the strictest sense, his portrayal of Jimmy as a confused, vengeful father was for the most part on point (though there were some scenes that seemed to strain Penn's acting ability). Kevin Bacon delivers an almost-expected stellar performance, as he always does in his lucrative Hollywood career, as Sean, the most distant of the three friends who has since become a detective on the Boston police force. It was Tim Robbins' performance that, for me, was amazing (though I admit I am biased, since I generally am more of a fan of Robbins' work than I am of the other two actors). His portryal of Dave as the scarred shell of the man that the young boy grew into is so subtly off that we, at first, don't recognize the madness of his character. And yet, this barest touch of insanity is what drives the story's plot and character interactions.

The film's role of secondary female characters are less developed, possibly because of the need to accomodate such a large cast of actors. Laura Linney plays Jimmy's wife, Annabeth Markum, as a woman who stays mostly under the radar until a surprise character twist near the end of the movie. Marcia Gay Harden plays Celeste, Dave's troubled wife who (perhaps as a product of the character more than the actress) is mostly just grating and annoying throughout the film. The role is a difficult one to do well, but I don't think Harden managed to get it right. Another actor who stayed under the radar of the film's publicity, but probably shouldn't have, was Laurence Fishburn in the role of Whitey Powers, Sean's partner. Fishburn delivers a powerful performance that manages to wrestle some of the attention from his scenemates, proving that he is more than just Morpheus.

I sometimes find Eastwood's work a little too heavy-handed, both in the acting and the directing department. Again in this movie, there were brief moments where the film went so far, the viewer necessarily recoils beyond immersion into the movie's story. However, overall, Eastwood translates a great story to film, though I would have preferred greater inclusion and development of the female roles.

Mystic River is mind-blowing, and I'm not certain that I fully 'got it', but unfortunately much of what I think I did get I cannot discuss without giving away most of the story's surprises. Needless to say, it's very good, though it lags as time (as many arthouse films do). Occasionally, it loses energy and the pacing seems off, and I (as a critic of most endings) thought this ending went on a little too long. But there are many pleasant plot points, such as the resolution of Sean's failing marriage, that make for a great watch. There's a good reason why this movie is nominated for Best Picture, and while this film will most assuredly go over your head the first time around, it certainly is a must-see, if only for the powerhouse acting.

kitty
05-15-2004, 03:20 PM
*bump for irezumi kiss*

i think i like this film more now given the lack of good intellectual movies recently.

Irezumi Kiss
05-15-2004, 06:17 PM
ha ha ha...thanx, Kitty!

you'll probably flay me, but I gots ta give you my ten yen on this...

(anyone who didn't see this and don't wanna be spoiled, turn back now. I'm assuming we've seen this since it's been way beyond the sell date of this film!)

...here's my breakdown of Mys-SHTICK River...

I liked:

- Tim Robbins' character. The best thing in the whole movie, really. He should've gotten Best Supporting Actor. I was sympathetic to him throughout the entire film. Which kinda made the ending suck.

- His wife

- Laurence Fishburne

- Kevin Bacon when he's doing his police thing

- Sean Penn's character — at FIRST. I loved his strength trying to hold his heart together, even when shit kept unraveling it...

BUT...

- Eastwood FUCKED it up by bringing in unnecessary moments of "introspection" and characters talking out loud to nobody in "dramatic" expositions. I wasn't the only one who noticed this. Quite a few critics pointed this out in their reviews, in trying to give a side voice to everyone who wasn't blowing his dick on this film (no offense Clint — I actually like you and your filming)

- Jimmy being so solid in the beginning and middle despite his loss —*and then just losing completely it to force his friend to lie so he could have a reason to justify his lust (or even peer pressure since he was with his "boys") to stab him made NO sense to me. The character just did a total 180 and I couldn't believe in him anymore. I just couldn't buy into it.

- Then at the end he knows he killed one of his best friends and he just lets it go like that with a head nod? The guy was suffering all thru the flick and he can somehow deal with what he did like snap and everything's daisy? Pfffth!

- Laura Linney was a clam throughout the whole movie and THEN she finds her "voice" at the end and gives this shpiel about "You own this block" or whatever the hell she said....WTF?

- Kevin Bacon's "wife" says nothing throughout the whole film and all we're treated to are shots of her lips and the public phone she's using? Ooooh, the SYMBOLISM is just too much! Then at the end they're happily back together again? OH GIVE ME A FRIKKIN' BREAK!

- The plot involving the girl's boyfriend and those boys was murky.

- The way what Dave had been doing that night was shoddily explained and even though I knew he wasn't capable of lying I felt that it could've been anything.

"Hey, I dropped my ice cream cone and I couldn't stop crying for three hours and cut myself falling on the ground trying to pick it up. That's what happened to me, honey."

- And I really hated this —*Celeste was ultimately treated as a emotionally reshapable idiot and just discarded so blatantly at the end. And these are supposedly people who grew up around each other in a community. A tight knit one at that. I wasn't expecting a "happy" ending, but this one seemed to be so...indifferent to the human heart. It was like, "Whatever! I fucking killed my childhood friend by mistake and now his sorry-assed wife is going nutso trying to find him and the police know what I did as well, or at least suspects it, but hey! That's life!"

No one in the theater clapped at the end, or even said the usually customary "Ahhh that was good, wasn't it?" I just left the joint feeling really really cheap and faithless about human beings. Technically it was nice to look at, but...ahhhh...even "deep" movies with unhappy or bittersweet endings still had me in a thoughtful, positive-pensive mood later. I just felt like shit after seeing this.

I dunno, that might say more about me than the film, eh?

I guess it's like this...I had so many people big up this movie to me and after all the hoo-hah and gee-gawin' over it, I bit the bullet and was expecting to be blown away, like I was when I went to go see "The Hours." And maybe my expectations ruined it. But I doubt it...I can't remember ever feeling like I did after a movie like this.

I cannot in good faith EVER recommend this!

BUT! Kitty I do respect your reviewing eye and upon further reflection I think this may warrant a DVD viewing for a second take...maybe...

Faithless
06-19-2004, 09:44 AM
*bump for irezumi kiss*

i think i like this film more now given the lack of good intellectual movies recently.
I saw it last night and found it disappointing.

Someone got away with murder and shouldn't have.

BTW, your reviews are full of insight.

Irezumi Kiss
06-19-2004, 01:00 PM
I saw it last night and found it disappointing.

Someone got away with murder and shouldn't have.

BTW, your reviews are full of insight.
THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!!!

Kitty is dead on with 95% of her stuff, but...I'm sorry...this movie was NOT the one!

I can understand getting away with murder, but the WAY it happened....UUUGGGHHH!

If everyone hadn't been hoo-haah'n over it before I went to see it I might've enjoyed it better...

Faithless
06-20-2004, 01:35 AM
If everyone hadn't been hoo-haah'n over it before I went to see it I might've enjoyed it better...
Not me. :biggrin:

I look at it as -- white trash fails to reform.

Along with the Theron movie, Monster, I also say it as -- very good acting by the movie star -- just ignore the plot.

BTW, even Mystic River had the white cop / black cop theme going for it.

kitty
06-20-2004, 06:40 PM
bah, morality. he got away with murder, he probably shouldn't have, i'll agree with that. but why are y'all looking for the ending of the movie to be the moral of the movie? i mean, a lot of movies show an ending that ends exactly the way it shouldn't.

btw, thanks for the kind words about my reviews :) it's really sweet... tho i stand by my review of this one... i liked it and i think the idea behind this film was about the tragedy of tim robbins' life, and the corruption of the people around him. in eseence though, kevin bacon and sean penn had already killed robbins' character (when they let him be taken away)... he was a walking dead man.

Irezumi Kiss
06-22-2004, 12:49 PM
btw, thanks for the kind words about my reviews :) it's really sweet... tho i stand by my review of this one... i liked it and i think the idea behind this film was about the tragedy of tim robbins' life, and the corruption of the people around him.
Tim Robbins saved the movie. In fact, he deserved the Best Supporting Actor award. If not for him, I woulda walked out on this and I don't walk out on anything...

But Kitty...tell me, what was the POINT of that proselytizing sermon by Penn's wife at the end? Especially when she didn't say shit during the whole movie to begin with?

What was the POINT of having Robbins' wife becoming an lost-in-the-crowd idiot at the end? What was the POINT of everyone knowing the truth and doing this wink-wink-nod and dance to avoid righting the wrong?

Maybe I should read the book. I must be missing something.

I thought that the from the way they built up the characters from the beginning, that the ending was a cheap way to "resolve" the conflict. Like someone didn't know how to tie things up, so they resorted to biiiig talking in order to "justify" the murder and give some sort of gravitas to the whole shebang.

"Ooooh, he did what he hadda do!"

aaaggh!

But just to give YOU a big up, Kitty, I'll have you know you've changed my outlook on certain movies...now I find myself going to see something and I think, "I wonder what Kittygirl would think of this?"

Faithless
06-22-2004, 01:21 PM
^ That was something with the wives.

Tim Robbin's wife actually rats on him. Mistake. And there she goes looking for her husband, partially realizing that the Penn character may have killed the husband.

Penn's wife sounds like she's saying it was okay for Robbin's character to have been murdered. Disgusting.

The other problem with the ending is that it seemed thrown together.

Up to the point of Robbin's character murder, things seemed to moving at its regular slow pace.

Then the near end. Bacon's character, nor Fishbourne's, follow-up on the missing Robbins.

Mai-Sai-Le
07-19-2004, 12:44 AM
I saw this movie too. This movie should be renamed, "WE F***ED UP DAVID'S LIFE"