The Transporter

[achtungbaby]

The Transporter (Shuriken)

In the six years since the U.S. release of Jackie Chan's "Rumble in the Bronx," the Asian presence in American popular culture seems greater, but it doesn't seem to have put much of a dent in Hollywood's blinkered view of Asian people. Although Jackie Chan, Chow Yun-Fat, and Jet Li are now playing starring roles in Hollywood movies, their characters haven't progressed much beyond the archetype of the sexless, unromantic fighting machine played by Bruce Lee in 1973's "Enter the Dragon." Even in a film titled "Romeo Must Die," Jet Li's Romeo never got to kiss his Juliet. Despite Hong Kong's heightened influence on Hollywood, the idea of a romantic, three-dimensional Asian leading man seems just as remote as ever. Meanwhile, the image of the Asian woman as an affirmative, uncomplicated romantic interest for a white male character (usually the lead) continues apace. Perhaps storybook romances between white men and Asian women are to be expected from clueless Caucasian filmmakers who don't know any better. But it's something else when you get one from an Asian director.

full review (http://yellowworld.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showcontent&id=10)

[Shuriken]

Thanks to Achtung for posting my review. Just in case anyone is wondering, I'd like to make it clear to everyone at Yellow World that my review is in no way a response to or a comment on the piece that Ayers wrote. He and I submitted our reviews on the same day, and since his arrived first, it was posted first. I hope I don't give anyone the impression that I need to have the last word on all things filmic on this site. I encourage every other Yellow World member to submit your own reviews and to let everyone else know what you think, even — maybe especially — if you disagree with me.

[bwc]

very very good review. I agree totally.

[Shuriken]

Thanks for your comments Morientes. Yes, WM/AF pairings are certainly over-represented in relation to the virtual absence of positive AM/WF romances. However, there are a few to be found...

If you don't mind subtitles, the best film to feature AM/WF is HIROSHIMA MON AMOUR, a 1959 French-Japanese co-production. The story is about a Japanese architecht who has an affair with a visiting French actress, but it's told in an unusual, achronological style. Not everyone is going to like this unusual movie, but I think it's well worth seeing. It's available on video.

Another AM/WF movie is THE LOVER (1992), based on a novel by the screenwriter of Hiroshima Mon Amour, but I don't particularly like this movie. It does have the advantage, though, of being in color and in English. Last I heard, it was also available on video.

The other examples of AM/WF that I can think of aren't available on video:

THE CRIMSON KIMONO (1959): L.A.P.D. detective James Shigeta ends up with Victoria Shaw as the woman he's protecting.

BRIDGE TO THE SUN (1961): A true story where James Shigeta plays a Japanese diplomat who marries an American woman played by Carroll Baker.

The film where a bunch of white guys (Christian Slater, go across various states and one of their crew goes and bangs a 'Kobe Tai' lookalike in Las Vegas and in the process the lookalike gets murdered


The film you're thinking of is Very Bad Things, and the woman was not just a Kobe Tai look-alike, she was pornstar Kobe Tai acting under her real name.

Thanks again for your feedback...

[Hanuman]

There aren't any sex scenes in "The One" with Jet Li, but his wife is caucasion. In fact so's his love interest in "kiss of the dragon" with Brigette Fonda (the prositute). While we're at it, Jet Li hooks up with hottie Aliah in "romeo must die", but again, no sex scenes...hey wtf!!!

In "return of the dragon" Bruce Lee picks up a friendly native while in Rome. His son Brandon Lee does ok in "Rapid Fire".

[angel nympho]

Just wondering... what would get you guys to stop complaining about white guys fucking asian chicks in movies? If you saw more Asian guys fucking white girls? Or if you saw more Asian guys fucking asian chicks? I really want to know. Or do you just want to get rid of it entirely?

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 6 2002, 07:19 PM
Just wondering... what would get you guys to stop complaining about white guys fucking asian chicks in movies? If you saw more Asian guys fucking white girls? Or if you saw more Asian guys fucking asian chicks? I really want to know. Or do you just want to get rid of it entirely?
more asian guys fucking white girls would be great. although i'd settle for asian guys fucking asian girls, since that seems to be pretty much non-existent in hollywood.

[Shuriken]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 7 2002, 12:19 AM
Just wondering... what would get you guys to stop complaining about white guys fucking asian chicks in movies?  If you saw more Asian guys fucking white girls?  Or if you saw more Asian guys fucking asian chicks?  I really want to know.  Or do you just want to get rid of it entirely?
Sarah, look at the movies, and notice the ways that WM/AF relationships are depicted. In Come See the Paradise, Dennis Quaid and Tamlyn Tomita kiss only minutes after they've met. In The Lost Empire, Bai Ling and Thomas Gibson try to kiss on their first meeting, but they're interrupted. In Mr. Baseball, Tom Selleck goes out with a Japanese woman on their first date, and she starts talking bluntly about sex. In The Transporter, Shu Qi aggressively jumps Jason Statham as soon as she gets the chance. In other words, in the whole history of the movies, Asian women are depicted as lusting after white men and having sex with them.

By contrast, Asian men in Holywood are hardly ever shown as positive romantic objects for women of any race. Jet Li plays the "Romeo" role in Romeo Must Die, but he doesn't get to kiss his Juliet. He's married to Carla Gugino in The One, but he never kisses her. Bruce Lee's character in Enter the Dragon and Chow Yun-Fat's characters in The Replacement Killers and The Corruptor are all decidedly unromantic. If a James Bond movie ever came out where 007 didn't get to sleep with any of the women, audiences would feel cheated, but an Asian male lead in an action movie is supposed to remain abstinent. When Asian men are shown as sexual, it's usually in a villainous context, as the threatening corruptors of white women: Shanghai Express, Showdown in Little Tokyo, Rising Sun, etc. Don't you see the double standard?

Yes, I think a good first step would be to show more Asian men as positive romantic leads in more movies, and in all genres: action, drama, romance, etc.

And just for the record. Although I think that WM/AF romances are overdone, I don't mind those where the relationships are credibly developed, where the relationship is made believable, such as in Alice's Restaurant, Tomorrow Never Dies, and Snow Falling on Cedars. But those movies where the Asian woman just throws herself at the white man — where the realtionship is ridiculously contrived — make me angry. I wonder if the writers in Hollywood feel that making a female romantic interest an Asian spares them the work of having to actually develop the romance: since an Asian woman will just throw herself at a white man, they don't need to show the two characters growing on each other.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by Shuriken@Dec 7 2002, 05:09 AM
Sarah, look at the movies, and notice the ways that WM/AF relationships are depicted. In Come See the Paradise, Dennis Quaid and Tamlyn Tomita kiss only minutes after they've met. In The Lost Empire, Bai Ling and Thomas Gibson try to kiss on their first meeting, but they're interrupted. In Mr. Baseball, Tom Selleck goes out with a Japanese woman on their first date, and she starts talking bluntly about sex. In The Transporter, Shu Qi aggressively jumps Jason Statham as soon as she gets the chance. In other words, in the whole history of the movies, Asian women are depicted as lusting after white men and having sex with them.

By contrast, Asian men in Holywood are hardly ever shown as positive romantic objects for women of any race. Jet Li plays the "Romeo" role in Romeo Must Die, but he doesn't get to kiss his Juliet. He's married to Carla Gugino in The One, but he never kisses her. Bruce Lee's character in Enter the Dragon and Chow Yun-Fat's characters in The Replacement Killers and The Corruptor are all decidedly unromantic. If a James Bond movie ever came out where 007 didn't get to sleep with any of the women, audiences would feel cheated, but an Asian male lead in an action movie is supposed to remain abstinent. When Asian men are shown as sexual, it's usually in a villainous context, as the threatening corruptors of white women: Shanghai Express, Showdown in Little Tokyo, Rising Sun, etc. Don't you see the double standard?

Yes, I think a good first step would be to show more Asian men as positive romantic leads in more movies, and in all genres: action, drama, romance, etc.

And just for the record. Although I think that WM/AF romances are overdone, I don't mind those where the relationships are credibly developed, where the relationship is made believable, such as in Alice's Restaurant, Tomorrow Never Dies, and Snow Falling on Cedars. But those movies where the Asian woman just throws herself at the white man — where the realtionship is ridiculously contrived — make me angry. I wonder if the writers in Hollywood feel that making a female romantic interest an Asian spares them the work of having to actually develop the romance: since an Asian woman will just throw herself at a white man, they don't need to show the two characters growing on each other.
So you don't care THAT they are depicted, you just have issues with the WAY they are depicted? That makes plenty sense to me. JW cuz what's going on in the minds of men are a mystery to me. :)

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Morientes@Dec 7 2002, 05:56 AM
Could it be that the society that Hollywood cater for subconsciously or even consciously frowns upon IR, specifically involving Asian men? Or could it be the personal prejudices of the individual writers concerned?
hell, they can make an entire sellout movie out of how a BM/WF relationship (Jungle Fever) is taboo, but a WM/AF relationship is just expected. i think they ought to make a movie out of how an AM/AF relationship is taboo! that would be very hollywood.

[angel nympho]

^-- I think it depends on what POV the movie is coming from. Surely if the movie was about an Asian female and her family life, a relationship with a white guy would be portrayed as a little more *taboo*

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 7 2002, 01:50 PM
^-- I think it depends on what POV the movie is coming from. Surely if the movie was about an Asian female and her family life, a relationship with a white guy would be portrayed as a little more *taboo*
a counter-example...

Joy Luck Club anyone?

[angel nympho]

Never saw it. Read the book, though.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 7 2002, 06:16 PM
Never saw it. Read the book, though.
the book was better

[Shuriken]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 7 2002, 06:50 PM
^-- I think it depends on what POV the movie is coming from.  Surely if the movie was about an Asian female and her family life, a relationship with a white guy would be portrayed as a little more  *taboo*
This is true, Sarah. But there's also another side to this. WM/AF romances may be frowned upon in certain traditional Asian American families, especially ones where the parents are immigrants. But it's abundantly clear that WM/AF romances are not frowned upon in Hollywood. Consequently, a movie that portrays a traditional Asian family frowning on their daughter's relationship with a white man can be manipulated to suggest that there's something especially daring about showing a WM/AF relationship on the screen — when, in fact, there isn't.

When Come See the Paradise was relased in 1990, I remember reading English writer-director Alan Parker's comments that showing a WM/AF relationship on the screen was a gutsy thing to do — when a Pizza Hut commercial had already appeared showing a family headed by WM/AF parents. Commercials are not going to risk alienating their potential consumers, so they're very conservative. And if a commercial is willing to show a WM/AF couple, you can bet that there's nothing especially daring about showing a WM/AF couple on the Hollywood screen. I think that Parker was only trying to justify putting a WM lead in a movie about the JA internment, a story where a WM lead didn't really belong. But Parker, for whatever reason, knew that he couldn't sell Hollywood on the idea of an internment movie with an all-Asian cast — assuming that he'd even want to make one.

This is also a criticism leveled against the Asian American movies The Joy Luck Club and Double Happiness. Now, I think that these two films — taken on their own terms — are wonderful and ought to be seen. But they do seem to insinuate that Asian American women are being oppressed by Asian men, and the best way for them to escape is to take a Caucasian boyfriend. As good as the movie is, all of the men in Double Happiness are either middle-aged or gay. There are no youthful, desirable, heterosexual Asian men to serve as romantic alternatives for the Chinese Canadian lead character (played by Sandra Oh). Her parents' disapproval of her relationship with a white man once again makes WM/AF romance seem taboo — when what's really "taboo" on the screen is Asian men as romantic leads.

One effective ploy in politics these days is for those in power to pretend to be the underdog, for Goliath to pass himself off as David. By making WM/AF romances look "daring" and "taboo" on the screen, Hollywood tries to cover up the fact that WM/AF romances are, in reality, all too common in the movies — and to hide the paucity of romantic Asian leading men.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Shuriken@Dec 7 2002, 06:45 PM
This is true, Sarah. But there's also another side to this. WM/AF romances may be frowned upon in certain traditional Asian American families, especially ones where the parents are immigrants. But it's abundantly clear that WM/AF romances are not frowned upon in Hollywood. Consequently, a movie that portrays a traditional Asian family frowning on their daughter's relationship with a white man can be manipulated to suggest that there's something especially daring about showing a WM/AF relationship on the screen — when, in fact, there isn't.

When Come See the Paradise was relased in 1990, I remember reading English writer-director Alan Parker's comments that showing a WM/AF relationship on the screen was a gutsy thing to do — when a Pizza Hut commercial had already appeared showing a family headed by WM/AF parents. Commercials are not going to risk alienating their potential consumers, so they're very conservative. And if a commercial is willing to show a WM/AF couple, you can bet that there's nothing especially daring about showing a WM/AF couple on the Hollywood screen. I think that Parker was only trying to justify putting a WM lead in a movie about the JA internment, a story where a WM lead didn't really belong. But Parker, for whatever reason, knew that he couldn't sell Hollywood on the idea of an internment movie with an all-Asian cast — assuming that he'd even want to make one.

This is also a criticism leveled against the Asian American movies The Joy Luck Club and Double Happiness. Now, I think that these two films — taken on their own terms — are wonderful and ought to be seen. But they do seem to insinuate that Asian American women are being oppressed by Asian men, and the best way for them to escape is to take a Caucasian boyfriend. As good as the movie is, all of the men in Double Happiness are either middle-aged or gay. There are no youthful, desirable, heterosexual Asian men to serve as romantic alternatives for the Chinese Canadian lead character (played by Sandra Oh). Her parents' disapproval of her relationship with a white man once again makes WM/AF romance seem taboo — when what's really "taboo" on the screen is Asian men as romantic leads.

One effective ploy in politics these days is for those in power to pretend to be the underdog, for Goliath to pass himself off as David. By making WM/AF romances look "daring" and "taboo" on the screen, Hollywood tries to cover up the fact that WM/AF romances are, in reality, all too common in the movies — and to hide the paucity of romantic Asian leading men.
wow, you said exactly what's on my mind but couldn't put into words.

[angel nympho]

If real relationships like that, though, aren't really all "TABOO," what's the point...?

Bahhhh... this stuff is just dumb, though. I mean, I see how some people would be offended by the lack of whatever on screen, but I honestly don't think it's some ploy against Asian men to be portrayed the way they are. It's just something that happens. And while it NEEDS to be changed, I think it's needless to get all offended by it. I think, yeah, it's a great idea to work to change the portrayal of Asian guys in the media... but sometimes I think people read a little too far into things.

[Shuriken]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 8 2002, 05:40 PM
Bahhhh... this stuff is just dumb, though. I mean, I see how some people would be offended by the lack of whatever on screen, but I honestly don't think it's some ploy against Asian men to be portrayed the way they are. It's just something that happens. And while it NEEDS to be changed, I think it's needless to get all offended by it. I think, yeah, it's a great idea to work to change the portrayal of Asian guys in the media... but sometimes I think people read a little too far into things.
I'm not saying that there's an intentional conspiracy by the media against Asians, but there is an institutional bias. How else do you explain producer Robert Halmi's insistence that David Henry Hwang insert a white male lead and an Asian female love interest into his TV adaptation of Journey to the West (which became The Lost Empire)? How else do you explain the Hollywood production company wanting to change Chinese American lawyer Julie Su into a white lead character in a film project about her defense of the Thai immigrant garment workers?

And if no one gets offended by this stuff, what incentive will there be to change it?

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 7 2002, 03:47 PM
hell, they can make an entire sellout movie out of how a BM/WF relationship (Jungle Fever) is taboo, but a WM/AF relationship is just expected. i think they ought to make a movie out of how an AM/AF relationship is taboo! that would be very hollywood.
i wish two things would happen.

the good one: someone makes a documentary showing all these movie examples and explaining all these disparities, double standards and s.types and how they affect us. It would also explain how racist and stereotypical hollywood is.

the bad one: an asian osama bin laden drops an atomic bomb on hollywood.

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by Shuriken@Dec 8 2002, 05:52 PM
I'm not saying that there's an intentional conspiracy by the media against Asians, but there is an institutional bias. How else do you explain producer Robert Halmi's insistence that David Henry Hwang insert a white male lead and an Asian female love interest into his TV adaptation of Journey to the West (which became The Lost Empire)? How else do you explain the Hollywood production company wanting to change Chinese American lawyer Julie Su into a white lead character in a film project about her defense of the Thai immigrant garment workers?

And if no one gets offended by this stuff, what incentive will there be to change it?
You don't HAVE to be all hurt or offended or feel threatened by something to change it. You can just want to change something just for the sake of making it better.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by angel nympho@Dec 8 2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Shuriken@Dec 8 2002, 05:52 PM
I'm not saying that there's an intentional conspiracy by the media against Asians, but there is an institutional bias. How else do you explain producer Robert Halmi's insistence that David Henry Hwang insert a white male lead and an Asian female love interest into his TV adaptation of Journey to the West (which became The Lost Empire)? How else do you explain the Hollywood production company wanting to change Chinese American lawyer Julie Su into a white lead character in a film project about her defense of the Thai immigrant garment workers?

And if no one gets offended by this stuff, what incentive will there be to change it?
You don't HAVE to be all hurt or offended or feel threatened by something to change it. You can just want to change something just for the sake of making it better.
hmmm personally i'm not offended per se. it's more like it annoys me.

[VV o n g B a]

yeah. its a lot like an itch u aren't able to scratch. i never noticed until people pointed it out, but once i noticed, it never seemed to go away.

[angel nympho]

SWK -- I'm not offended, either. It doesn't even really bug me that much. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy seeing it change.

[SunWuKong]

SWK -- I'm not offended, either. It doesn't even really bug me that much. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy seeing it change.


hey so we're pretty much in agreement! more asian guys screwing please!


er... ok i think that came out wrong... coming from a guy... :P

[Napoleon Chynamite]

I like Jason Stratham. He provides more tongue-in-cheek comedy overtone and kick-ass demeanor in one movie than most action stars have in their entire careers.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 7 2002, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Shuriken@Dec 7 2002, 06:45 PM
This is true, Sarah.  But there's also another side to this.  WM/AF romances may be frowned upon in certain traditional Asian American families, especially ones where the parents are immigrants.  But it's abundantly clear that WM/AF romances are not frowned upon in Hollywood.  Consequently, a movie that portrays a traditional Asian family frowning on their daughter's relationship with a white man can be manipulated to suggest that there's something especially daring about showing a WM/AF relationship on the screen — when, in fact, there isn't.  

When Come See the Paradise was relased in 1990, I remember reading English writer-director Alan Parker's comments that showing a WM/AF relationship on the screen was a gutsy thing to do — when a Pizza Hut commercial had already appeared showing a family headed by WM/AF parents.  Commercials are not going to risk alienating their potential consumers, so they're very conservative.  And if a commercial is willing to show a WM/AF couple, you can bet that there's nothing especially daring about showing a WM/AF couple on the Hollywood screen.  I think that Parker was only trying to justify putting a WM lead in a movie about the JA internment, a story where a WM lead didn't really belong.  But Parker, for whatever reason, knew that he couldn't sell Hollywood on the idea of an internment movie with an all-Asian cast — assuming that he'd even want to make one.  

This is also a criticism leveled against the Asian American movies The Joy Luck Club and Double Happiness.  Now, I think that these two films — taken on their own terms — are wonderful and ought to be seen.  But they do seem to insinuate that Asian American women are being oppressed by Asian men, and the best way for them to escape is to take a Caucasian boyfriend.  As good as the movie is, all of the men in Double Happiness are either middle-aged or gay.  There are no youthful, desirable, heterosexual Asian men to serve as romantic alternatives for the Chinese Canadian lead character (played by Sandra Oh).  Her parents' disapproval of her relationship with a white man once again makes WM/AF romance seem taboo — when what's really "taboo" on the screen is Asian men as romantic leads.  

One effective ploy in politics these days is for those in power to pretend to be the underdog, for Goliath to pass himself off as David.  By making WM/AF romances look "daring" and "taboo" on the screen, Hollywood tries to cover up the fact that WM/AF romances are, in reality, all too common in the movies — and to hide the paucity of romantic Asian leading men.
wow, you said exactly what's on my mind but couldn't put into words.
Wanted to hop on the bandwagon and second this. Well put, Shuriken.

[ellsworth81]

Ditto. Props B)

[Ch8Li179]

I think that AF/WM make sense and WF/AM don't in "Hollywood's" eyes is because, subconsciously they may have the crazy idea that Asian men are not "Manly". For an example, in the 1800s "Americans" made fun of Chinese men for having ques and thought they were impotent because, they looked like women instead of "Manly Men." Which was such a stupid remark in those days! Damn, people had what five to ten childeren back then! How's that for impotent?

Maybe that's what's going on? Asian men in general tend to be shorter than the Euro-American male. Not always but, you get the idea. And for some reason no matter how strong or muscular an Asian male maybe they seem to have a leaner look to them. They have sexy sculpted muscles not the steroid "can't fit though the door unless I walk sideways" look. I have only seen a couple of "body building" looking Asian males.

Which is really weird? Everytime I go to the gym I see these BIG BODY BUILDER looking WM and they're at the "manly" free weight section. They have a bunch of weights that they are attempting to lift; they lift the weights up only for a few seconds or a couple of times then I hear the clangging and bangging of the weights. Of course, they drop the weights! They don't seem strong to me! On the other hand Asian males that have the lean sculpted look are able to lift a sh*t load of weights and they do hundreds of reps. You can keep the BIG AND BULKY. I'll keep the sexy lean!

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Ch8Li179@Mar 29 2003, 08:40 AM
For an example, in the 1800s "Americans" made fun of Chinese men for having ques and thought they were impotent because, they looked like women instead of "Manly Men." Which was such a stupid remark in those days! Damn, people had what five to ten childeren back then! How's that for impotent?
actually only the rich people would have that many children. and chinese people in the 1800s were overwhelmingly male. the only chinese women here were prostitutes. many men had wives back in china that they rarely see. some small portion of them married poor white women.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Mar 30 2003, 12:48 AM
actually only the rich people would have that many children. and chinese people in the 1800s were overwhelmingly male. the only chinese women here were prostitutes. many men had wives back in china that they rarely see. some small portion of them married poor white women.
My mom's aunt was the daughter in a family of 16 children (split between 2 mothers) :unsure:

[Redhawk]

I have just rented "The Transporter" because I wanted to see what it was all about. I think that this has to be one of the worst action flicks of all time.

The stunts-while good-can not keep paced with the bad script. This movie makes "The Lord of the Rings" look real. Spiderman would be jealous of this guy's move.

I can't see how anyone in real life could:

-Drive while someone is chocking you.
-Survive being kicked out the truck's windshield.
-Fight on an oil slick ground.
-Take someone else's breath while you are in the water.

Not to mention that horriable love scene, after he:

Put a rope around her neck so that she could go "pee".
He picks her up and puts her over his shoulder like a rag doll.
He tosses her at the policeman like a foot ball.
Throws her out of his car and leave her in the middle of the street.
After all of this, he's in love with her.
She has to make the first move, because the big tough guy appears to be afraid of women.
She just met the guy and they are making out? :lol:
And even after all those things he did to her???

I didn't like Shu Qi's character because she was too passive. When she shoots her own father this is inconsistent with her character. Frodo was passive, but he could be aggressive at times. At the end of the movie they don't even kiss, so they really didn't need a love scene afterall.

This is one of the worst movies of 2002, besides Jackass, Attack of the Clones, and The Scorpion King. :gross: :gross:
I want my $4.20 back from Blockbuster.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by Redhawk@Jun 25 2003, 03:29 PM
I have just rented "The Transporter" because I wanted to see what's it was all about. I think that this has to be one of the worst action flick of all times.

The stunts-while good-can not keep paced with the bad script. This movie makes "The Lord of the Rings" look real. Spiderman would be jealous of this guy.

I can't see how anyone in real life could:

-Drive while someone is chocking you.
-Survive being kicked out the truck's windshield.
-Fight on an oil slick ground.
-Take someone else's breath while you are in the water.

Not to mention that horriable love scene, after he:

Put a rope around her neck so that she could go "pee".
He picks her up and puts her over his neck like a rag doll.
He tosses her at the policeman like a foot ball.
Throws her out of his car and leave her in the middle of the street.
After all of this he's in love with her.
She has to make the first move because the big tough guy appears to be afraid of women.
She just met the guy and they are making out? :lol:
And even after all those things he did to her???

I didn't like Shu Qi's character because she was too passive. When she shoots her own father this is inconsistent with her character. Frodo was passive, but he could aggressive at times. At the end of the movie they don't even kiss, so they really didn't need a love scene after all.

This is one of the worst movies of 2002, besides Jackass.
I actually like the British guy (main character), played by Jason Stratham. I prefer him as a leading man over many other big-time Hollywood leading men like Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson or whoever.

Shu Qi was just plain annoying. Why wouldn't she just shut the @#$@% up haha. And her FOBish accent, although understandable, irritated me to no end. Maybe I'm not as tolerating as I thought.

That Asian guy that played her father also has gotta leave. How many times is Ric Young going to be asked to fill the role of the old male Asian nobody or the stony detestable Asian political or authority figure? Not to mention his scene with the French prostitute at the beginning of Kiss of the Dragon nearly scarred me for life.

[Redhawk]

Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Jun 25 2003, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by Redhawk@Jun 25 2003, 03:29 PM
I have just rented "The Transporter" because I wanted to see what's it was all about. I think that this has to be one of the worst action flick of all times.

The stunts-while good-can not keep paced with the bad script.  This movie makes "The Lord of the Rings" look real.  Spiderman would be jealous of this guy.

I can't see how anyone in real life could:

-Drive while someone is chocking you.
-Survive being kicked out the truck's  windshield.
-Fight on an oil slick ground.
-Take someone else's breath while you are in the water.

Not to mention that horriable love scene, after he:

Put a rope around her neck so that she could go "pee".
He picks her up and puts her over his neck like a rag doll.
He tosses her at the policeman like a foot ball.
Throws her out of his car and leave her in the middle of the street.
After all of this he's in love with her.
She has to make the first move because the big tough guy appears to be afraid of women.
She just met the guy and they are making out? :lol:
And even after all those things he did to her???

I didn't like Shu Qi's character because she was too passive. When she shoots her own father this is inconsistent with her character. Frodo was passive, but he could aggressive at times. At the end of the movie they don't even kiss, so they really didn't need a love scene after all.

This is one of the worst movies of 2002, besides Jackass.
I actually like the British guy (main character), played by Jason Stratham. I prefer him as a leading man over many other big-time Hollywood leading men like Tom Cruise or Mel Gibson or whoever.

Shu Qi was just plain annoying. Why wouldn't she just shut the @#$@% up haha. And her FOBish accent, although understandable, irritated me to no end. Maybe I'm not as tolerating as I thought.

That Asian guy that played her father also has gotta leave. How many times is Ric Young going to be asked to fill the role of the old male Asian nobody or the stony detestable Asian political or authority figure? Not to mention his scene with the French prostitute at the beginning of Kiss of the Dragon nearly scarred me for life.
I like Jason Stratham's acting too, but his actions made him into a superhero. It's impossible for any normal man to do the things that he did, unless he's an X-man. And he was running away from her like a virgin. I thought he was gay.

Yeah, old Ric Young is back again; playing his dad role. :lol:

[Faithless]

I rented it recently, too. But mostly to see that one scene where the stud knocks on the door, then comes running to knock it down.

Everything else was boring.

[sOKaLiBoY]

Originally posted by Redhawk@Jun 25 2003, 04:29 PM
I have just rented "The Transporter" because I wanted to see what it was all about. I think that this has to be one of the worst action flicks of all time.

The stunts-while good-can not keep paced with the bad script. This movie makes "The Lord of the Rings" look real. Spiderman would be jealous of this guy's move.

I can't see how anyone in real life could:

-Drive while someone is chocking you.
-Survive being kicked out the truck's windshield.
-Fight on an oil slick ground.
-Take someone else's breath while you are in the water.

Not to mention that horriable love scene, after he:

Put a rope around her neck so that she could go "pee".
He picks her up and puts her over his shoulder like a rag doll.
He tosses her at the policeman like a foot ball.
Throws her out of his car and leave her in the middle of the street.
After all of this, he's in love with her.
She has to make the first move, because the big tough guy appears to be afraid of women.
She just met the guy and they are making out? :lol:
And even after all those things he did to her???

I didn't like Shu Qi's character because she was too passive. When she shoots her own father this is inconsistent with her character. Frodo was passive, but he could be aggressive at times. At the end of the movie they don't even kiss, so they really didn't need a love scene afterall.

This is one of the worst movies of 2002, besides Jackass, Attack of the Clones, and The Scorpion King. :gross: :gross:
I want my $4.20 back from Blockbuster.
hell i don't think this movie was worth the download.


as for jackass and attack of the clones...i must disagree with you. i though that they were good movies. jackass was the shit because i love stupid humor. as for star wars....it was a quite better then the 1st one. and that one was a little better then average in my book. it's hard for me to ever hate on star wars.

[Redhawk]

Originally posted by sOKaLiBoY@Jun 26 2003, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Redhawk@Jun 25 2003, 04:29 PM
I have just rented "The Transporter" because I wanted to see what it was all about. I think that this has to be one of the worst action flicks of all time.

The stunts-while good-can not keep paced with the bad script.  This movie makes "The Lord of the Rings" look real.  Spiderman would be jealous of this guy's move.

I can't see how anyone in real life could:

-Drive while someone is chocking you.
-Survive being kicked out the truck's  windshield.
-Fight on an oil slick ground.
-Take someone else's breath while you are in the water.

Not to mention that horriable love scene, after he:

Put a rope around her neck so that she could go "pee".
He picks her up and puts her over his shoulder like a rag doll.
He tosses her at the policeman like a foot ball.
Throws her out of his car and leave her in the middle of the street.
After all of this, he's in love with her.
She has to make the first move, because the big tough guy appears to be afraid of women.
She just met the guy and they are making out? :lol:
And even after all those things he did to her???

I didn't like Shu Qi's character because she was too passive. When she shoots her own father this is inconsistent with her character. Frodo was passive, but he could be aggressive at times. At the end of the movie they don't even kiss, so they really didn't need a love scene afterall.

This is one of the worst movies of 2002, besides Jackass, Attack of the Clones, and The Scorpion King.  :gross:  :gross:
I want my $4.20 back from Blockbuster.
hell i don't think this movie was worth the download.


as for jackass and attack of the clones...i must disagree with you. i though that they were good movies. jackass was the shit because i love stupid humor. as for star wars....it was a quite better then the 1st one. and that one was a little better then average in my book. it's hard for me to ever hate on star wars.
Yeah, but there were a lot of slow moments in that Star War movie.

Shu Qi's Character was mistreated by the big dude, Jason, and he was a sexist. She was the most submissive woman that I have ever seen in the 21 century!!
I did not find her sexy when she stripped down to her panties, but some freaks on yahoo's message board did.

She seem so uncomfortable with that scene. I don't think that she ever had a kissing scene with a white guy before, and it was so BAD.
Why the hell would you want to make an action film rated P.G-13? :lol: If it's not rated "R", I don't want to see it.

[maxdacat]

i saw it on a plane somewhere and thought it was kind of cool.

it had a really good look and feel to it and i think Jason Streatham played the role in a very understated kind of way....in terms of action it was much better than the recent bond film

Hsu Chi is really terrible except for the eye candy factor and it seemed like an eternity before her and Jase got it on......(tho they cut out the naughty bits in the plane).....even then he seemed kind of reluctant not at all like the sort of evil gwailo you might expect

i don't know how good he really is at martial arts but the camera work in the fight scenes comes off well (unlike the stoopid matrix fights).

not sure what the fuss is about

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by maxdacat@Jun 30 2003, 08:26 AM
i saw it on a plane somewhere and thought it was kind of cool.

it had a really good look and feel to it and i think Jason Streatham played the role in a very understated kind of way....in terms of action it was much better than the recent bond film

Hsu Chi is really terrible except for the eye candy factor and it seemed like an eternity before her and Jase got it on......(tho they cut out the naughty bits in the plane).....even then he seemed kind of reluctant not at all like the sort of evil gwailo you might expect

i don't know how good he really is at martial arts but the camera work in the fight scenes comes off well (unlike the stoopid matrix fights).

not sure what the fuss is about
Jesus...

Let's see. It was predictable enough to make me roll my eyes. The main Asian guy(s) in the movie are evil controlling bastards who mistreat Asian women. The white guy is the benevolent savior. Using martial arts of course. They wrote her character to pretend to be his little oriental cook. Mmm. Me cook you food. You eats lot, yeah. We make nice-nice too. You know, nothing here to really make people riot in the streets or boycott it but it makes you want to bang your head against a wall and say for god's sake - another one of these?

Oh I had hopes for this film. The trailers looked cool, I like Jason Stratham well enough as an actor, I figured how could the film go wrong with Cory Yuen behind it but I was so very naive.

[achtungbaby]

In the six years since the U.S. release of Jackie Chan’s “Rumble in the Bronx,” the Asian presence in American popular culture seems greater, but it doesn’t seem to have put much of a dent in Hollywood’s blinkered view of Asian people. [details (http://yellowworld.org/?m=show&id=131)]