Boy, 15, raped his mother.

[teaz0r]

Boy, 15, raped his mother
By David Harding, Metro
21 January 2004

A boy of 15 made legal history yesterday by becoming the first teenager to appear in court charged with raping his mother.

The youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons, admitted the attack on his 36-year-old parent.

She sat weeping feet from her son when he was brought into court.

The assault took place when the boy returned home to Swansea for a weekend visit from local authority care in Cornwall.

Judge Jonathan Durham Hall said he could find no record of such a crime in legal history.

'This is without apparent or recent precedent,' he said.

The judge told the jury, which was sworn in for a trial when the youth changed his plea: 'This is a case of a young boy raping his mother.

'She no doubt finds this as stressful and bizarre as anyone else.'

The judge said he wanted every step taken to find an explanation. ' Psychiatrists, social workers and probation officers must resolve how to help.

'I am anxious to get to the root cause of this. Was it an episode with a background confined to the domestic circumstances or does this bode ill for the future?'

James Jenkins, prosecuting, said he wanted to make it clear that the mother did not complain because she wanted to see her son locked up.

'She is not interested in punishment. She is most anxious her son receives the best possible assistance,' he added.

The teenager's barrister, John Hipkin, told Swansea Crown Court it was one of the 'most difficult, sensitive and ultimately saddest cases that could be imagined'.

The boy will remain in care until he is sentenced next month after the judge considers expert reports.

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/8688951?source=Evening%20Standard

[mr. x]

hmm a while back in the bay area a viet guy's mom was killed and her body thrown in the dumpster. the cops assumed her son had raped her but i guess it turns out there was a screwup like cuz his english was bad the interrogation was screwy.

[TB4000]

Boy, 15, raped his mother
By David Harding, Metro
21 January 2004

A boy of 15 made legal history yesterday by becoming the first teenager to appear in court charged with raping his mother.

The youth, who cannot be named for legal reasons, admitted the attack on his 36-year-old parent.

She sat weeping feet from her son when he was brought into court.

The assault took place when the boy returned home to Swansea for a weekend visit from local authority care in Cornwall.

Judge Jonathan Durham Hall said he could find no record of such a crime in legal history.

'This is without apparent or recent precedent,' he said.

The judge told the jury, which was sworn in for a trial when the youth changed his plea: 'This is a case of a young boy raping his mother.

'She no doubt finds this as stressful and bizarre as anyone else.'

The judge said he wanted every step taken to find an explanation. ' Psychiatrists, social workers and probation officers must resolve how to help.

'I am anxious to get to the root cause of this. Was it an episode with a background confined to the domestic circumstances or does this bode ill for the future?'

James Jenkins, prosecuting, said he wanted to make it clear that the mother did not complain because she wanted to see her son locked up.

'She is not interested in punishment. She is most anxious her son receives the best possible assistance,' he added.

The teenager's barrister, John Hipkin, told Swansea Crown Court it was one of the 'most difficult, sensitive and ultimately saddest cases that could be imagined'.

The boy will remain in care until he is sentenced next month after the judge considers expert reports.

http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/8688951?source=Evening%20Standard

OK, something has seriously been going on not quite right within their home, and it's something Oedipus and Freud would never be able to comprehend, probably.

[Arex]

That's definitely taking the term "MILF" too far...

rX

[hooligan]

Fuck :mad:

[seanp]

Uhm ... i guess either she's hot or he couldn't control his hormones.... or simply the family is crazy

[bluemonq]

OK, something has seriously been going on not quite right within their home, and it's something Oedipus and Freud would never be able to comprehend, probably.
Oedipus no, Freud (and Kinsey, maybe) yes. After all, 'Oedipus Complex' is somewhat of a misnomer; he didn't *want* to sleep with his mother; it just sort of happened. :rolleyes:

[Proxy]

:mad:

Disturbing

[rice cracker]

Uhm ... i guess either she's hot or he couldn't control his hormones.... or simply the family is crazy

Rape isn't about sexual desire. It's about power and domination. I think something was fucked up with the family, or the kid has major mental problems, perhaps as a result of familial fuckuppage.

[Emperor_Mike]

Quite. I think this case will be brought up in my next tutorial. It seems very likely.

[cargo]

15 yr old boy
36 yr old parent
c'mon she have enough strength
to fight back

[kasia]

15 yr old boy
36 yr old parent
c'mon she have enough strength
to fight back

but how can you say that if you don't even know the height and weight of either the mother or the son.

also - someone mentioned that there's something wrong with the home, but the article says this took place when the boy was on leave from local authority care. <-- whatever that means. wouldn't this instead point to the fact that foster care or other like systems are ineffective and could potentially mess a person up (mentally)?

[cargo]

^^^^true true
but can anyone find out the height and weight of the two

[etcj]

Sounds like a very sensationalized case. I think it's certainly serious, but I don't know if I think this case should be tried as a more egregious or aggrevated form of rape. Essentially, I'm guessing that charge would be incest, which has been tried in the past.

Of course, I think it warrants some more information, since a great deal of details have been left out in that short article.

[kasia]

i want to know what happened to the boy while he was in "local authority care." until that information is available, i don't think he'll get a fair trial.

[etcj]

Well my dear resident lawyer, what do you think could be mitigating circumstances?

[kasia]

Well my dear resident lawyer, what do you think could be mitigating circumstances?

that he was raped while under local authority care. would be an even better case if they knew he was being raped on a regular basis and turned a blind eye b/c he was asian.

[John0101]

Was the kid have some sort of mental problem? Normal 15 year olds don't rape their moms.

[nonamerasian]

Normal 15-year-olds don't rape, period.

[kasia]

but then how do we define normal? is it a label that we give them after the fact? and if so, what would be the point of that? i think it's unfair to use terms like 'normal' and 'abnormal'.

[nonamerasian]

I was using "normal" as in "typical" in relation to rape.

[bluemonq]

Normal 15-year-olds don't rape, period.
well, for that matter, normal ('typical') people don't rape. i do agree this is being sensationalized by the media. while this isn't quite the low level of the man-rapes-dog thing, i think this is being played up because it's a son and mother thing. basically this is one more horrible rape of thousands, and regardless of mitigating circumstances and whatnot, it shouldn't have happened. and if it was because *he* was raped, well, that shouldn't have happened either.

*sigh* can't we all just...get along?

[nonamerasian]

15 yr old boy
36 yr old parent
c'mon she have enough strength
to fight back

Regardless of whether he is 15 and she is 36, it was rape.

Regardless of could'a, should'a, would'a.

It isn't something that is determined by whether the victim could have beaten the rapist in a wrestling match.

[kasia]

Regardless of whether he is 15 and she is 36, it was rape.

Regardless of could'a, should'a, would'a.

It isn't something that is determined by whether the victim could have beaten the rapist in a wrestling match.

hm...actually, i don't think it's such a bad thing that he is questioning. i agree with you that age doesn't have much to do with it...but questioning the possibility of whether it could've happened, in my opinion, isn't such a bad thing at all. there could be story behind it all that we don't know about. etc. etc.

[nonamerasian]

I agree in questioning things, but I hate the strength argument.

Even if she laid as limp as a rag, so long as he raped her, strength really has nothing to do with it. Her size doesn't correct the situation.

Besides, it can’t be deemed that just because he’s 15, a 36-year-old should have the strength to overcome him.

There are 12-year-olds larger than I am.

[rice cracker]

15 yr old boy
36 yr old parent
c'mon she have enough strength
to fight back

Even if he had a weapon? If he had abused her in the past? I find it really offensive that you are placing the blame on the mother, with your insinuations that she could have fought back and didn't.

[>:^|]

Kids killing their parents is not unheard of. Is rape worse?

[mr. x]

Kids killing their parents is not unheard of. Is rape worse?

in this world anger towards parents (even that extreme) is understandable but sex is not. i mean u see a lot of shakespearean plays about parent-killing but only one (Oedipus) about mother-son sex and to this day thats considered 10 times as revolting.

[nonamerasian]

It’s a tough question, however, if the headline was, “15-Year-Old Murders Mother,” one of my first questions would be if he was off balance and/or abused.

Although I don't agree with murder, it isn't so difficult for me to imagine situations that could lead to such a thing.

It’s not easy for me to think of any justification for rape.

[kitty]

Kids killing their parents is not unheard of. Is rape worse?

it's all about power -- about teens trying to fight back against that which they perceive is oppressing them. Rape is rarely merely about sexual desire, but also about the domination involved. Rapists generally want to feel like they dominate their victim, and that the victim's life/pleasure is entirely within the attacker's control.

There've been enough cases of kids seeking power over their parents through some twisted teen rebellion fantasy. I don't find this case any different.

And yeah... I think it is a little distasteful to insinuate that the mom could've easily fought him off and didn't. There are a lot of 15 years old who are very strong, muscular, and who could easily bat me around like a cat toy. Though, just like I shouldn't dismiss the possibility that she chose not to fight back, you (cargo) shouldn't be so quick to assume that the woman is to blame.

[kasia]

Kids killing their parents is not unheard of. Is rape worse?

as a woman, i would have to say yes. i'd rather be killed than raped.