American Idol 2004

[younggiftedandblack]

New season started tonight. Anybody watch??

[thaite]

saw some of it. I was all WTH? when the rappin' Asian dude came on.

[younggiftedandblack]

saw some of it. I was all WTH? when the rappin' Asian dude came on.

LOL!! He was going off wasn't he??

[nonamerasian]

I saw Idol for the first time today. Well, my first entire episode.

It didn't impress me much. I don't see the big deal with the show.

The crooner who first performed an imitation before singing in his true voice was the bomb, though. Too bad in the long run he'll probably be told he isn't Idol material.

[TB4000]

saw some of it. I was all WTH? when the rappin' Asian dude came on.
Me against the world. :mad:

[kboy75]

that korean rapping dude was embarrassing.

[haku]

OMIGAWD she was soooo bad! Looked great, though.

Supposedly she skipped ALL of High School to go to Harvard. Is that even possible?

[haku]

And then Christopher Huang sang, "I can't hep farring in ruff with you!"

[Faithless]

And then Christopher Huang sang, "I can't hep farring in ruff with you!"
Em-fucking-barrassing!

I hope to hell that was a deliberately aweful act. :frown:

[younggiftedandblack]

She came out looking good, sounding nice then she began to sing.........

Her mom must've filled her head with delusions of grandeur.

[mr. x]

dude she sounded DRUNK man. she reminded me of Kittygirl's friend, u know the fortune cookie one.

anyway the worst is yet to come too.

two words man, san francisco:

"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee"

"i have had no professional training"

[haku]

So anybody know if it's possible to "skip" High School and go straight to Harvard? Fookling seemed a little TOO pleased with herself for her brilliance, making her voice just that much harder to hear...

[younggiftedandblack]

I think if you're really smart you can. I dunno though, after hearing her sing she doesn't seem to smart to me anymore. LOL!

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Who are you guys talking about?

[DragonKnight]

Lordy, I miss having TV. Anyone have a download of this horrible voice you all speak of?

[younggiftedandblack]

Who are you guys talking about?

Some girl on American Idol last night.

[haku]

Okay, I found her name on a Harvard Graduate School of Design advisee list, but you need a password to get to the directory, facebook, etc. Does anyone know anyone at the GSD who could talk to her and get her take on all this. Maybe she was drunk. Well, at least she's safe on campus. I'm sure they don't watch American Idol at Hahvahd.

[ModernLogic]

Dang, I missed it. I tried to find a clip of her online but didn't have any luck.

[Faithless]

Okay, I found her name on a Harvard Graduate School of Design advisee list, but you need a password to get to the directory, facebook, etc. Does anyone know anyone at the GSD who could talk to her and get her take on all this. Maybe she was drunk. Well, at least she's safe on campus. I'm sure they don't watch American Idol at Hahvahd.
How do you know that's the same person?

[moJo]

was she wearing a blue sleevless blouse? and (at least her top half) looked like she was going to prom (her makeup, hair)? i saw an asian chick in a quick clip shown on Access Hollywood last night. she wasn't great, but she wasn't gawd-awful either, but all i saw was a 3-second clip.

[lethal]

So anybody know if it's possible to "skip" High School and go straight to Harvard? Fookling seemed a little TOO pleased with herself for her brilliance, making her voice just that much harder to hear...

She went to UDub undergrad and now she's at Harvard Design school.

She didn't skip HS all the way to Harvard.

[kboy75]

what an unfortunate name.

[haku]

How do you know that's the same person?

She said she went to Harvard...

[younggiftedandblack]

was she wearing a blue sleevless blouse? and (at least her top half) looked like she was going to prom (her makeup, hair)? i saw an asian chick in a quick clip shown on Access Hollywood last night. she wasn't great, but she wasn't gawd-awful either, but all i saw was a 3-second clip.

That's her and yes she was awful. I don't know what kind of crack she was smoking before the show.

[mr. x]

Okay, I found her name on a Harvard Graduate School of Design advisee list, but you need a password to get to the directory, facebook, etc. Does anyone know anyone at the GSD who could talk to her and get her take on all this. Maybe she was drunk. Well, at least she's safe on campus. I'm sure they don't watch American Idol at Hahvahd.

what makes u say that? she's from Harvard and apparently it wasnt beneath her to audition

how can a girl be so smart and so stupid?

[mr. x]

That's her and yes she was awful. I don't know what kind of crack she was smoking before the show.

my first reaction was she was flipping drunk

[hooligan]

can someone find the movie for that indian guy from world idol? he was great too.

[Arex]

Actually I have to admit the really bad people are the best part of the show for me.

I agree. If I want to hear good singers, I'll just turn on the radio (or jump in my time machine and go back in time to when MTV played music videos). It's the really bad ones, though, that we don't get to see everyday.

RX

[applehead]

Here's what Myself doesn't understand about this: some of these people are bad, I mean really really awful terrible. Yet for some reason they actually believe they can be a pop star, and these are just the ones that they let through for comic relief. (which is a whole 'nother topic itself) There are THOUSANDS that show up at every city. I mean it's all well and good to have big dreams, but I don't understand how someone can be so unrealistic, about it, and to be in such denial when they ultimately get clowned, and then to top it off get all pissy about it. like the guy who threw Simon's drink at him.

Actually I have to admit the really bad people are the best part of the show for me.

i blame the people around them that are telling
them otherwise.
not only are the singers themselves so startled
to hear that they're bad singers, the family member
or friends waiting outside the room are so indignant
when they hear that they're not going to hollywood.
i mean, wtf. are you all deaf.
shit, if my friend, prat (who is notorious for being tone deaf)
told me she was going to audition for american idol.
i'd tell her, um, you can't sing, dumbass.
of course, she knows this 'cause i tell her everytime
we go karaoking.

[hooligan]

a friend of a friend just told me that the guy actually suffers from down syndrome or something. :( now i feel bad laughing at him.

[mr. x]

AAAAAAA i just saw the SF episode (recorded it to watch w/brother)

oh man, at least the Indochina guy made it. man though, the Berkely guy, i think i know someone in berkely who knows him....

hooligan if he had down syndrome u hafta admit he's doing pretty damn good dontcha think?

[hooligan]

AAAAAAA i just saw the SF episode (recorded it to watch w/brother)

oh man, at least the Indochina guy made it. man though, the Berkely guy, i think i know someone in berkely who knows him....

hooligan if he had down syndrome u hafta admit he's doing pretty damn good dontcha think?
yeah, he's definitely a better performer than me. it might be a mild form of down.

[Faithless]

These LA auditions have been boring.

Are they always like that?

Kira? What's with the attitude, girl?

[mr. x]

These LA auditions have been boring.

Are they always like that?

Kira? What's with the attitude, girl?

which one was she? my fav was from a different city, u know the girl who was like "im so excited and i just cant hide it" and simon was like "come back with 10 people who think your good" and she couldnt find one! interestingly the last person she tried to impress was a napping asian man

[Faithless]

I think there were two Kira's.

The African American that all three judges thought she acted like she did not need any critiquing. I thought for sure she would be gone.

And the white young lady who did not act like a young lady after she was booted from LA. She said something to the affect that all the other AI women left were trash or something. I think that's a trashy thing to say, Kira.

[mr. x]

I think there were two Kira's.

The African American that all three judges thought she acted like she did not need any critiquing. I thought for sure she would be gone.

And the white young lady who did not act like a young lady after she was booted from LA. She said something to the affect that all the other AI women left were trash or something. I think that's a trashy thing to say, Kira.

i dont recall that line in particular but usually the worst they say is like "this whole thing is bs" sorta thing. sometimes they say they are better than the others but i dont recall anyone calling the rest trash

[Faithless]

i dont recall that line in particular but usually the worst they say is like "this whole thing is bs" sorta thing. sometimes they say they are better than the others but i dont recall anyone calling the rest trash
Oh yeah, that one woman that got cut called the others trash. They showed her on one of the morning news shows.

Anyway, this evening's group performance sure looked scary.

[lethal]

The Vietnamese dude just sucked and was canned.

It looks like the big guy from Hawaii made it, the guy who sang first tonight. Also, the Hawaiian girl with the flower in her hair made it too. I'm not sure if any other Asians made it.

[Faithless]

On a side note, AI execs say that all 117 contestants were screened:

"American Idol" have ratcheted up their screening process... (http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/17345.htm)
...this time around - after getting burned three times last season.
"This year, for the first time ever, we screened all of the 117 that came through to Pasadena," "AI" co-executive producer Ken Warwick told MTV.com.

In the past, "AI" producers would screen only the 32 finalists for the show - and even then there were problems. "Generally speaking, the whole process of screening these kids is a bit of a nightmare," Warwick said.

"Some of them are younger, so they're not on the normal registers you would check out."

"AI" producers have learned a lesson from past seasons, when incomplete background checks failed to raise several red flags.

Last season, for instance, Jaered Andrews made it to the finals, but was booted when officials learned he'd been arrested on assault charges connected to a bar fight in which a man died.

Another finalist from last season, Frenchie Davis, was booted when Fox officials learned she had posed topless for a Web site showing pictures of underage girls (daddyslittlegirl.com, now out of business).

Davis, a fan favorite, has since gone on to star in "Rent" on Broadway and the road company of "Dream Girls."

"If a girl's worked in a strip bar, but she's a great singer, we don't care," Warwick said. "But if there is something that is seriously going to bring the show in disrepute, for any reason, it's up to the legal side of Fox and 19 [Entertainment]."

Corey Clark even made it to the final nine contestants last season before getting kicked off the show when news surfaced that he'd been arrested the previous year for assaulting his sister (a charge that was eventually dropped).

If the new, all-inclusive screening process weeded out any contestants with questionable pasts, the "Idol" people aren't saying.

"We don't comment on our risk-management process," a Fox spokesperson said yesterday.

The third season of "American Idol," meanwhile, continued to roll Tuesday night - snaring over 30 million viewers as the field is narrowed down to the 32 finalists.

[mr. x]

haha, i know what u mean chotto, like if i were to pat him on the back im not sure if id be doing it genuinely or ironically

[Faithless]

www.williamhung.net


i found this site hilarious, but when i realized he wasn't the one who created it, it really bothered me. last thing i want to know is that it's a buncha non-asians creating this site to mock a dorky asian boy. (personally, i think it's an act.)

Godaddy "whois" info:

Hobby Treasures 1266 Azalea Ave McKinleyville, California 95519-9233 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: WILLIAMHUNG.NET Created on: 29-Jan-04 Expires on: 29-Jan-06 Last Updated on: 03-Feb-04 Administrative Contact: Chin, Don donchin@cox.net Hobby Treasures 1266 Azalea Ave McKinleyville, California 95519-9233 United States 7078400412 Fax -- 7078400413 Technical Contact: Chin, Don donchin@cox.net Hobby Treasures 1266 Azalea Ave McKinleyville, California 95519-9233 United States 7078400412 Fax -- 7078400413 Domain servers in listed order: NS3.GEARWORX.NET NS4.GEARWORX.NET

I emailed William to let him know. If he doesn't know already.

[mr. x]

^---Don Chin eh? my guess is he's doing it for a mix of reasons

1) i notice the hobby treasures thing, maybe for profit reasons?
2) a mix of reverence and mocking

so yeah

[Faithless]

^---Don Chin eh? my guess is he's doing it for a mix of reasons

1) i notice the hobby treasures thing, maybe for profit reasons?
2) a mix of reverence and mocking

so yeah
If it's the same person, his web site redirects to an E-bay web page:

http://www.stores.ebay.com/hobbytreasures

[yoMAMA]

Are u guys talking about that asian engineering dude?

[krome]

Note to prospective engineers:
http://www.ejovi.net/pics/engineer.jpg
I wish they had this billboard at my school...I had to find out the hard way. :frown:

[yoMAMA]

:eek: Note to prospective engineers:
http://www.ejovi.net/pics/engineer.jpg
I wish they had this billboard at my school...I had to find out the hard way. :frown:

[nameless]

Hey, I need to write about Asians in media, so I figured I'd go off on AI, since...well, we all know why. But aside from Hung, how man other Asian contestants have there been? From what I've found it's been...Fookling Lee, Chris Huang, James Lin, Bao Diet Nguyen. If there have been more, please let me know. I'm just trying to get an idea of the images these contestants conveyed (or at least the image AI was trying to). Thanks in advance...

Oh, and...wasn't there someone on this forum who said he / she was a contestant?

[younggiftedandblack]

Hey, I need to write about Asians in media, so I figured I'd go off on AI, since...well, we all know why. But aside from Hung, how man other Asian contestants have there been? From what I've found it's been...Fookling Lee, Chris Huang, James Lin, Bao Diet Nguyen. If there have been more, please let me know. I'm just trying to get an idea of the images these contestants conveyed (or at least the image AI was trying to). Thanks in advance...

Oh, and...wasn't there someone on this forum who said he / she was a contestant?

The voting starts tommorow. There are several AA involved I believe. Alot of the ones who tried just flat out couldn't sing.

[Faithless]

Ahhhh, Ashley (Thomas), Simon was right.

Good voice, bad choice for a song. :frown:

[Chester]

Ahhhh, Ashley (Thomas), Simon was right.

Good voice, bad choice for a song. :frown:And zero charisma. The rodeo comment was rough, but dead-on.

[Faithless]

And zero charisma. The rodeo comment was rough, but dead-on.
http://idolonfox.com/contestants/index.htm

I hope this 16 year old goes far:

http://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_dianad.jpg

[BaiginLong]

On a side note, AI execs say that all 117 contestants were screened:

"American Idol" have ratcheted up their screening process... (http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/17345.htm) wow
I guess it was a really good thing I got a sore throat for the third round of 2003 American Idol auditons and a good thing I didn't even try for 2004
my record will be cleared this year
so
ish fate????

Edit: so who thinks I should try for 2005? :biggrin:

[mr. x]

wow
I guess it was a really good thing I got a sore throat for the third round of 2003 American Idol auditons and a good thing I didn't even try for 2004
my record will be cleared this year
so
ish fate????

Edit: so who thinks I should try for 2005? :biggrin:

sharpen your skills warrior!

[applehead]

And zero charisma. The rodeo comment was rough, but dead-on.

even her name is so... blah.
ashley thomas.

[Faithless]

wow
I guess it was a really good thing I got a sore throat for the third round of 2003 American Idol auditons and a good thing I didn't even try for 2004
my record will be cleared this year
so
ish fate????

Edit: so who thinks I should try for 2005? :biggrin:
What is ish? BTW?

Yeah, go for it in 2005. We'll ask Donny Chin to create a web site to promote you before hand!

[Kuchana]

Dang! Group 1 was dang good! Especially the girls. But I'm digging Matthew. He's such a cutie!! :)

[mr. x]

i havent even seen the hawaii ep yet, whats this about ashley thomas and a rodeo?

[Faithless]

http://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_lisal.jpg

Damn, girl, you do need to lose a little weight. Your shirt be rolling up your plump little tummy and shit. :frown:

[Kuchana]

Most of the AI contestants sucked tonight. Compared to the last group, the quality was very low. I was surprised considering that I was expecting more like the last group.

[Faithless]

You're very optimistic.

I had a feeling the twins were going to suck.

Dispite having a good voice, I think Matt Rogers is not the American Idol type. Wedding singer, maybe.

We voted for --
* Camile Velasco, and
* Marisa Joy.

Although, no way is Camile Velasco like Lauren Hill.

[younggiftedandblack]

You're very optimistic.

I had a feeling the twins were going to suck.

Dispite having a good voice, I think Matt Rogers is not the American Idol type. Wedding singer, maybe.

We voted for --
* Camile Velasco, and
* Marisa Joy.

Although, no way is Camile Velasco like Lauren Hill.

The white girl who went before them both sounded better. Thsoe last two were just ok sounding, but better then the guys.

[Kuchana]

You're very optimistic.

I had a feeling the twins were going to suck.

Dispite having a good voice, I think Matt Rogers is not the American Idol type. Wedding singer, maybe.

We voted for --
* Camile Velasco, and
* Marisa Joy.

Although, no way is Camile Velasco like Lauren Hill.

Well I couldn't help myself after hearing Phantasie and that other girl sing last week. They just blew everyone else away but the group as a whole was much better than this current one by far. And you're right. Camile Velasco is in no way whatsoever like Lauryn Hill. Her voice was decent but not in the same caliber as Lauryn herself. Few people are.

[Faithless]

Well I couldn't help myself after hearing Phantasie and that other girl sing last week. They just blew everyone else away but the group as a whole was much better than this current one by far. And you're right. Camile Velasco is in no way whatsoever like Lauryn Hill. Her voice was decent but not in the same caliber as Lauryn herself. Few people are.
Gonna have to take your word on that, didn't really see the last show.


The white girl who went before them both sounded better. Thsoe last two were just ok sounding, but better then the guys.
Which white woman?

Kara Master? The judges squashed her act.

Lisa Leuschner? The judges thought she was flat.

[Chester]

Dispite having a good voice, I think Matt Rogers is not the American Idol type. Wedding singer, maybe.
Not even that. I thought he was terrible. He was on key and in tune but there was "flat." I can sing that particular song better than he did.
* Camile Velasco
From what I saw, she was definitely best of the night. Nothing particularly special about her singing, but she has a nice way about her on stage and her voice was at least as good as anyone else's.
* Marisa Joy.
Blech. That girl was supremely annoying and cheesy and -- Simon was right -- she has the posture of a longshoreman. When she did her Tiger Power Crouch, I wasn't sure if she was going to belt out a high note or throw a flying uppercut.

[krome]

Camile Velasco has good tone. She could be great with more development. Right now she still seems a bit choppy and reserved...

Most of the others I heard clips of, frankly, sucked. This was a bad batch last night. Most of them couldn't make it to regional choir tryouts.

[applehead]

http://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_lisal.jpg

Damn, girl, you do need to lose a little weight. Your shirt be rolling up your plump little tummy and shit. :frown:

that comment is fuckin insulting.

[Faithless]

that comment is fuckin insulting.
Sorry about that. Why's it particularly insulting? I was combing the comment like antics of Randy and Simon. :frown:

Randy with his familiar way of speaking. Simon with his frankness, who, I believe, did comment on the weight. She was on last year's show, right? And Simon commented on this year's show that she still hadn't lost the weight.

But there was a spot during her performance where her belly was hanging out.

Blech. That girl was supremely annoying and cheesy and -- Simon was right -- she has the posture of a longshoreman. When she did her Tiger Power Crouch, I wasn't sure if she was going to belt out a high note or throw a flying uppercut.
More like linebacker.

[Chester]

More like linebacker.
Good call.

The other thing I was thinking was a Western gunslinger who had just taken a guy out in a duel, spinning a revolver around in her mic hand.

[Faithless]

Good call.

The other thing I was thinking was a Western gunslinger who had just taken a guy out in a duel, spinning a revolver around in her mic hand.
Right! Ever more so.

Peoples,

Do you think Simon (and maybe the other judges) is making too much of the weight issue on some of these contestants?

Or do you think it is a reality?

Why are some of them not dressing up? Is it just "rehersals" or doesn't it matter?

[kitty]

I think that there is definitely a weight issue with Hollywood... I mean Kelly Clarkson was told to lose weight after she won, and the reality is that people don't want to see people of even remotely normal weight on TV.

On that note however, I really don't think that we should be similarly superficial and mean. CM, I was also kinda offended, though I realize you were parodying Simon and Randy. I just kinda wish people would not perptuate the 'skinny people are beautiful' myth that ends up plaguing real women... fueling eating disorders like anorexia and the like.

[Faithless]

I think that there is definitely a weight issue with Hollywood... I mean Kelly Clarkson was told to lose weight after she won, and the reality is that people don't want to see people of even remotely normal weight on TV.

On that note however, I really don't think that we should be similarly superficial and mean. CM, I was also kinda offended, though I realize you were parodying Simon and Randy. I just kinda wish people would not perptuate the 'skinny people are beautiful' myth that ends up plaguing real women... fueling eating disorders like anorexia and the like.
I kind of wish it, too. Afterall, when it comes down to it, it's just me, my stereo, and the voice(s) and music coming out of the speakers (or head phones).

Outside of that, turns out "America" wanted Matt, who, when he sang his victory song, seemed to miss some notes.

[Kuchana]

Wow. They picked Matt over Lisa. I was surprised. I thought she sang better in comparison but evidently the public didn't think so. I'm pleasantly surprised.

[Faithless]

Wow. They picked Matt over Lisa. I was surprised. I thought she sang better in comparison but evidently the public didn't think so. I'm pleasantly surprised.
I'm thinking had the college vote, since he is a former college football star. Could be way wrong.

[applehead]

Sorry about that. Why's it particularly insulting? I was combing the comment like antics of Randy and Simon. :frown:

Randy with his familiar way of speaking. Simon with his frankness, who, I believe, did comment on the weight. She was on last year's show, right? And Simon commented on this year's show that she still hadn't lost the weight.


"she needs to lose weight"
would have been more appropriate.

"your shit be rolling up your plump tummy..." whatever is insulting.
even if your were imitating those judges.

[Faithless]

"she needs to lose weight"
would have been more appropriate.

"your shit be rolling up your plump tummy..." whatever is insulting.
even if your were imitating those judges.
That was "your shirt...".

And the way her shirt flopped over her tummy was sloppy.

[applehead]

That was "your shirt...".

And the way her shirt flopped over her tummy was sloppy.


your shirt. whatever.
well, maybe you could've said that instead.

comments like that are part of the reason
why women have issues with their weight.

http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=13768
i suggest you go read that thread.

[Faithless]

your shirt. whatever.
well, maybe you could've said that instead.

comments like that are part of the reason
why women have issues with their weight.

http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=13768
i suggest you go read that thread.
My comment was tongue-in-cheek for this thread. And not typical of comments I make, IRL.

Either way, if you noticed, Lisa did not take Simon's advice.

He told her, I believe, last season when she auditioned that she should lose weight. She did not.

This season, they revisted her comment. She indicated she ignored the comment. Good for her and strong personality. Bad career move.

[applehead]

i don't care if she didn't take simon's advice.
that's not the point.

i'm just saying your comment was insulting.
if you don't think it was, that's fine also.

[Faithless]

i don't care if she didn't take simon's advice.
that's not the point.

i'm just saying your comment was insulting.
if you don't think it was, that's fine also.
I know, I realize it is not the point for you. I respect your point.

But I do care that she didn't take Simon's advice. It was sort of harsh constructive criticism. Some people need to hear it - moreso for the reality of that industry.

She didn't take his criticism and I think she suffered for it.

[Faithless]

Shall we declare "winnah!" of week three:

http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_latoyal.jpg

Latoyyyya!

[krome]

^ Agreed. What's sad is that last year there were several on her level, whereas this year she sticks out like a sore thumb...

[Faithless]

^ Agreed. What's sad is that last year there were several on her level, whereas this year she sticks out like a sore thumb...
Like a sore thumb? Not --

You're a shining star, no matter who you are.
Shining bright to see what you could truly be.

[sinisterpanda]

Something seems fishy between Simon and Paula...something kissy-kissy-smoochy-smoochy-oh-simon-oh-paula sort of thing? anyone, anyone??

I have a mini-addiction to this tv show...i know...it's sad, i also like to steal candy from babies...and kick kittens.

[Faithless]

Mmm, I don't know.

They are probably just friendly-adversarial-familiar with each other.

To me, there seems to be a real needling relationship between Seacrest and Cowel.

[kitty]

threads have been merged. please remember to do a search for a general topic before starting a new thread.

[Faithless]

Nice article on Jonah. Too bad he didn't make it.

Moananu’s the man (http://starbulletin.com/2004/02/24/features/story1.html)

...
THOUGH NO STRANGER to performing before audiences -- Moananu teaches drama at the Farrington High-based Alliance for Drama Education -- the process, he says, is rather unnerving.
...
HAVING BEEN CROWNED Hawaii's king of rhyme by earning top honors in the Island Freestyle Championships, 808 State MC Battle and various car show rap-offs, Moananu, undefeated over the past year, is certainly an old pro when it comes to talent contests.

A less-than-stellar impromptu rhyming exhibition at the behest of "AI" producers immediately following his go-ahead has been his only regret in an otherwise worthy performance.

"I still get knocked on that, 'cause that was a pretty wack freestyle," admits Moananu with a giggle. "But I was just so excited that it didn't even matter. Stuff just started falling out of my mouth, so it was all good."

As Hawaii's lone representative this week, Moananu feels the pressure to perform well but knows that his destiny ultimately rests with the American viewing audience.

"If it makes the people of Hawaii proud, then I'm glad. If it makes my family proud, I'm glad," he states. "But I'm just going to try to do my thing. People can love it or not. We just have to see how it goes."
Hey, Don? Don?

How about touting Jonah as a correspondant?

[krome]

Something seems fishy between Simon and Paula...something kissy-kissy-smoochy-smoochy-oh-simon-oh-paula sort of thing? anyone, anyone??
It's probably just playful flirting, but it would be the classic fake PC-beauty queen/cynical realist guy match-up... :biggrin:

I was impressed with Jonah when he first opened his mouth, but it seems he soon lost steam and stalled after that. Poor song choice was definitely a factor as it showcased no range whatsoever.

Now, has anyone noticed that female singers are way over-represented, followed by gay males? I mean, let's face it, there is no male equivalent of Mariah, Whitney, Celine or even Xtina. The male boy bands don't even come close vocally to their female poptart cohorts. So, are women often just naturally-better singers, and if so - why? Something biological - and perhaps also cuz they "tend" to be more emotional?

[Faithless]

Barry Mana-who?

Barry Manilow to appear as a judge on the current season of AI on April 19 and 20.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4376315/

[Faithless]

My picks for this last group:

http://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_susanv.jpg .http://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_jasminet.jpg

Susie Vulaca, and
Jasmine Trias

[Chester]

Jasmine TriasI'll second that vote. She was the only one out of the group who seemed to have the chance of developing some real vocal chops and was the only one who had any real stage charisma. Plus, she seems like a sweet girl.

Good enough for me.

Oh, and I'm apparently not too shallow. That one girl who sang "Come To My Window" -- ridiculous body, horrible, horrible performance that I literally changed the channel to avoid, I was so mortified for her.

[Faithless]

I'll second that vote. She was the only one out of the group who seemed to have the chance of developing some real vocal chops and was the only one who had any real stage charisma. Plus, she seems like a sweet girl.

Good enough for me.

Oh, and I'm apparently not too shallow. That one girl who sang "Come To My Window" -- ridiculous body, horrible, horrible performance that I literally changed the channel to avoid, I was so mortified for her.
I think you mean Lisa Wilson, who should probably just stick to modeling after her Janis Joplin-like raspy performance.

American Idol Group Four falls flat (http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=5652&page=last)

[Chester]

I think you mean Lisa Wilson, who should probably just stick to modeling after her Janis Joplin-like raspy performance.
Don't diss Janis like that! Janis was raspy and earthy, but she didn't shout her songs like that girl did. That Lisa was singing like a Monster Truck Announcer.

[Faithless]

Despite Lisa Wilson...

Fox, 'Idol' Win Again on Tuesday Night (http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=televisionNews&storyID=4491337&section=news)
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Fox's "American Idol" had no competition once again on an otherwise ho-hum Tuesday in primetime, the second-to-last night of the February sweep.

"Idol" brought in 24.9 million viewers and 10.7 rating/28 share in the adults 18-49 demographic from 8-9:05 p.m. according to preliminary estimates from Nielsen Media Research.

[Faithless]

http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_johns.jpg

Whoa! Whoa! Number 1 at 28%. Hmmm.

[Kuchana]

yay....jasmine made it...another hawaiian:)

wow....i love her voice.

[Faithless]

Do they need to prolong the show another week with this "wildcard" episode?

[hooligan]

http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_johns.jpg

Whoa! Whoa! Number 1 at 28%. Hmmm.
not hot. :D

[Chester]

http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_johns.jpg

Whoa! Whoa! Number 1 at 28%. Hmmm.Totally absurd. He was horrible. I never saw what he did before, but if you're going to sing a Billy Joel tune, you don't do "She's Always a Woman to Me," you fucking dork. It's pretty much his worst song aside from the totally noxious "Uptown Girl," though even that would be more suitable for American Idol.

Oh well. Jasmine made it through. She's still kind of rough and has problems reaching certain notes, but she has a voice to develop, is the only one who is engaging on-stage, and seems like a really sweet girl.

And, the further she moves on, the more we get to see her family make those "Hang Loose" hand-signs on camera.

[Faithless]

Oh, yeah, I dig the hang loose signs!

But, yeah, Jasmine needs work to catch-up to my neighboring Oakland star.

I didn't really know what the redhead was singing, but, Billy Joel, okay.

"Innocent Man" might have been a real winner for him or anyone else. There's soul in that tune as well as vocal range.

It's interesting, if America supposedly despises Simon, they sure do him the honors by picking his choices; i.e., red.

[younggiftedandblack]

Totally absurd. He was horrible. I never saw what he did before, but if you're going to sing a Billy Joel tune, you don't do "She's Always a Woman to Me," you fucking dork. It's pretty much his worst song aside from the totally noxious "Uptown Girl," though even that would be more suitable for American Idol.

Oh well. Jasmine made it through. She's still kind of rough and has problems reaching certain notes, but she has a voice to develop, is the only one who is engaging on-stage, and seems like a really sweet girl.

And, the further she moves on, the more we get to see her family make those "Hang Loose" hand-signs on camera.

She's just a bit young. I agree in the years to come if she continues to practice her craft she'll be a force to reckon with. She has a nice voice.

[applehead]

Totally absurd. He was horrible. I never saw what he did before, but if you're going to sing a Billy Joel tune, you don't do "She's Always a Woman to Me," you fucking dork. It's pretty much his worst song aside from the totally noxious "Uptown Girl," though even that would be more suitable for American Idol.

Oh well. Jasmine made it through. She's still kind of rough and has problems reaching certain notes, but she has a voice to develop, is the only one who is engaging on-stage, and seems like a really sweet girl.

And, the further she moves on, the more we get to see her family make those "Hang Loose" hand-signs on camera.


did you just diss billy joel?
:biggrin:

[krome]

Jasmine was good. Overall though, the entire batch this time is several notches below AI 2, and several notches below AI 1. I mean, compare her to Kelly Clarkson or Justin Guarini. There is just no comparison. It's like it falls off with each later series...

[Chester]

did you just diss billy joel?
No way. I like Billy Joel, on the whole (ooh, that rhymed). But he still has a few horrible songs...

[Oblivious]

oooh i loved Jasmine!
she's got a strong and pretty voice.
i especially like that she is so sweet,
shy, appreciative and greatful.

:biggrin:

him...about John...
i don't think he sings totally awesome
however, there's just something to him
that's intriguing. i think it's cuz his style
and voice is so unique and different
compared to the typical.

i still don't get the whole voice and age
16 thing. he sounds like he could be 30.

[Faithless]

Jasmine was good. Overall though, the entire batch this time is several notches below AI 2, and several notches below AI 1. I mean, compare her to Kelly Clarkson or Justin Guarini. There is just no comparison. It's like it falls off with each later series...
Is Jasmine the best of AI 3, though? No, I think that honor belongs to someone else. Possibly LaToya London.

Compare LaToya, then, to Clarkson or Studdard. And how does AI 3's possible stack up? Pretty well, I think.

[Fireblade]

Jasmine is cute. AI 3 will play on that very much so. Believe it.

[krome]

^^I'm not sure which one LaToya was, but likely the black girl who really stood out in one of the groups. Thing is, there were several "LaToyas" in AI 1 like Tamyra Gray - who only ended up as "also-rans." And actually, Tamyra was even better than LaToya...

Here in AI 3 tho, she sticks out like a sore thumb head-and-shoulders above the rest of her "competition." I mean, compare the runner-ups from AI 1 and 2 - Justin Guarini and Clay Aiken. Sorry, but Justin can sing rings around Clay. And I think Kelly Clarkson is better than Ruben too, although their styles are a bit different and harder to compare.

I don't think LaToya quite compares to Clarkson or Ruben, either (if I'm thinking of the right girl).

[Faithless]

[QUOTE=kromeAnd I think Kelly Clarkson is better than Ruben too, although their styles are a bit different and harder to compare.[/QUOTE]
Clarkson singing Misunderstanding is a guilty please of mine. :eek:

[Kuchana]

john peter lewis was great! mormon representin!!!:)

and by the way, one thing that really annoys me about some of the candidates is how when ryan seacrest tells you how america is going to vote whether to keep him/her in or not, they look at you, begging you to vote for them or point at themself and nod.

[Faithless]

Suzy,
Suzy,
Suzy!

I eeriely think that Simon might be right about a surprise vote.

I keep thinking there is a secret society of Idol disrupters. :rolleyes:

[lethal]

There are 2 Hawaiian girls who made it through.

Jasmine and Camile.

http://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_jasminet.jpghttp://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_camillev.jpg

[krome]

john peter lewis was great! mormon representin!!!:)
Was he the bad Elvis impersonator? My g0d he was absolutely DREADFUL. It was bad enough watching him, I can't imagine just hearing his voice alone on the radio. :eek:

Again, the only one on par with AI 1 from last nite was the last black chick.

[Faithless]

Simon's right, Paula was like a fairy gramma for Leah:

http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_leahv.jpg

[kimpossible]

Was he the bad Elvis impersonator? My g0d he was absolutely DREADFUL. It was bad enough watching him, I can't imagine just hearing his voice alone on the radio. :eek:


God yeah... that was really, really bad.

[Faithless]

God yeah... that was really, really bad.
And you get to watch him some more.

Simon was right. Surprise vote for sure.

[Kuchana]

bah. ya'll guys are awful:P i didn't think he was that bad.

[krome]

The whole level has fallen off. Only the 2 black girls really kicked it - Jennifer & LaToya. The rest were ho-hum. I thought George sucked too - I can't believe Simon picked him. He was exactly right that he sounded like a Temptations back-up singer - and that was extremely generous. I can't imagine having to hear his voice on the radio. :eek:

This show is quickly becoming a parody of itself - and now, Seacrest and the judges are already outshining the contestants as the watchable stars on the show. That's pathetic.

[Faithless]

bah. ya'll guys are awful:P i didn't think he was that bad.
You mean the Elvis impersonator?

My personal test: could I buy the guy's record or his single. No. :frown:

The whole level has fallen off. Only the 2 black girls really kicked it - Jennifer & LaToya. The rest were ho-hum. I thought George sucked too - I can't believe Simon picked him. He was exactly right that he sounded like a Temptations back-up singer - and that was extremely generous. I can't imagine having to hear his voice on the radio. :eek:
Yeah, I think Simon was his own self fullfilling prophesy.
.
This show is quickly becoming a parody of itself - and now, Seacrest and the judges are already outshining the contestants as the watchable stars on the show. That's pathetic.
Seacrest is getting annoying.

[Oblivious]

hmmm...for some reason, i liked the elvis impersonator.
i think it's cuz he was funny, different and it just looked
like he didn't give a fuuuuuuuug! LOL

yeah, Seacrest has annoyed me from day 1. and his &
simon's caps on each other is getting really lame.

[LCY]

Hi everyone,

I'm watching the current season of American Idol and post periodically on a popular internet television forum. Some posters made some racist comments about Jasmine Trias, a Filipino-American teenage finalist, and when I remarked on them, the administrators deleted my comments, suspended by account, but the offending messages were left alone. What do you all think? Is this a case of racism?

Here are the posters' comments:

"I can't help it, whenever I see Jasmine, I think I should be calling Sally Struthers to pledge my 52 cents a day to feed her and her family."

"She's fugly - her face is flatter than a pancake."

My responses:

"That's racist. Just because Jasmine's race is Asian, that does not mean she and her family look like starving 'ethnic' people."

"Plus, she has small squinty eyes, how can she see through them?".

[kitty]

LCY, I think it's great tha tyou responded, and it's awful that the admin deleted your posts. Did you talk to them about it?

Also, I assume that last comment was not by you?

[LCY]

Thanks, kittygirl. I thought those comments were ignorant, but it seemed like no one else agreed. I emailed the admin, but haven't gotten a response yet. The second comment was by me, I was trying (and maybe not succeeding) to be sarcastic and ridicule the stereotype that Asian features are unattractive. That's the kind of humor the forum (televisionwithoutpity) understands. It's just frustrating that this kind of casual racism is condoned.

I hope Camile or Jasmine win this competition.

[kitty]

that's interesting. perhaps though they thought you were being inflammatory...? which is awful. I would keep pestering the admin of the forum (maybe you could let us know which forum this was?) because I can't see how you shoulda been banned for that stuff.

[LCY]

The thing is, this forum (forums.televisionwithoutpity.com) uses sarcastic and biting humor all the time. It's the reason for their existence. So I didn't see how my comments were any more inflammatory than anyone else's (and I tried to be civil). I just get sick and tired of people making casual racist remarks like that against Asians and think they can get away with it unnoticed. Yet when I point this out, I get suspended while the racist comments remain. I'll wait and see if the admin replies to my email. I know we have to pick and choose our battles, and this one is small.

Thanks for listening, it's just a relief to vent a little.

[Faithless]

I saw the thread you were talking about LCY.

That board sucks. Every other post is a flame:

Jasmine hating post... (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3114859&view=findpost&p=1134735)

You need another one. Might I suggest this one:

http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25223

[LCY]

Thanks, ChottoMatte, I'll try the messageboard you suggested.

Here's the link to the racist Sally Struthers comment (it's the second post):

Decide for yourself. (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3115537&st=315)

Overall, in my opinion, televisionwithoutpity is not very friendly towards people of color.

[Faithless]

Thanks, LCY, I saw the other post and it is sad.

Sounds like the mods work bass-ackwards over there.

There's not much discussion here for some reason, but the discussion seems generally positive. Give your two cents and see.

The board I posted is crazy. I think they keep a fairly decent check on the hating. They don't seem to do a good job about understanding how racism can play into a reality TV show, but eh...

[mr. x]

LCY maybe u were being ironic but irony doesnt work when u talk to racist people.

trust me saying "dude u wouldnt say "n--ga" to a black guy" is not gonna get u anywhere.

i think you shoulda stuck to your point and dont use sarcasm. talk to the mod personalyl if u have to

but yeah thats stupid that they left that other comment on

[Faithless]

Forums like that are minefields.

You're welcome here.

[Faithless]

http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_leahv.jpg

Simon said: (Leah) I think she's gonna be gone tonight.

Me: I think she should have been gone last week. :frown:

[LCY]

I got a response.

Here's the e-mail I sent to Shack, the moderator of the American Idol forum:

>To: <shack@televisionwithoutpity.com>
> Hi Shack,
>
> I was wondering why my posts on the American Idol
> threads were deleted and my account suspended. I
> don't think I posted any offensive or insulting
> messages. If somehow I did, why were stover33 and
> Grey Garden's racist comments about Asians left
> undisturbed? These actions suggest to me the TWOP
> condones racism on its forums but disallows any
> criticism of said racism. I truly didn't mean to
> offend, but I couldn't let racist remarks go by
> unremarked. If that was my error according to TWOP,
> then I understand.
>
> Thank you,
> Quentin

Here's the response:

>Just because you say something is racist, doesn't make it so.

>Your privileges were revoked in a regular purge of undesireable
>posters. Any
>more e-mails about this matter will be ignored.
>Shack

Implying that I'm imagining racism when those comments were clearly racist against Asians is offensive. Plus, that response did not address my points. He is clearly not interested in a dialogue. I'm not sure what to do. This situation makes me feel angry and depressed. Maybe I should have just kept my mouth shut.

I should just stay here to discuss AI.

I watched the show tonight, and Jasmine did great.

[Mr.Lum]

There are 2 Hawaiian girls who made it through.

Jasmine and Camile.

http://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_jasminet.jpghttp://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_camillev.jpg

they not hawaiian, they filipina.

there was a Fijian girl on tho.

[krome]

Will George ever stop singing Lean on Me? I swear he is a 1-trick pony and I am tired as h*ll of his tortured delivery of that easybake song...

[kitty]

I got a response.

Here's the e-mail I sent to Shack, the moderator of the American Idol forum:

>To: <shack@televisionwithoutpity.com>
> Hi Shack,
>
> I was wondering why my posts on the American Idol
> threads were deleted and my account suspended. I
> don't think I posted any offensive or insulting
> messages. If somehow I did, why were stover33 and
> Grey Garden's racist comments about Asians left
> undisturbed? These actions suggest to me the TWOP
> condones racism on its forums but disallows any
> criticism of said racism. I truly didn't mean to
> offend, but I couldn't let racist remarks go by
> unremarked. If that was my error according to TWOP,
> then I understand.
>
> Thank you,
> Quentin

Here's the response:

>Just because you say something is racist, doesn't make it so.

>Your privileges were revoked in a regular purge of undesireable
>posters. Any
>more e-mails about this matter will be ignored.
>Shack

Implying that I'm imagining racism when those comments were clearly racist against Asians is offensive. Plus, that response did not address my points. He is clearly not interested in a dialogue. I'm not sure what to do. This situation makes me feel angry and depressed. Maybe I should have just kept my mouth shut.

I should just stay here to discuss AI.

I watched the show tonight, and Jasmine did great.


Or you could just chalk them all up as ign'ant bastids and discuss AI here :)

[Faithless]

There are 2 Hawaiian girls who made it through.

Jasmine and Camile.

http://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_jasminet.jpghttp://idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_camillev.jpg
And Jasmine was better than Camile last night.

[younggiftedandblack]

Yeah Camile wasn't that good lastnight.

[kboy75]

jasmine was like... whoa....

[Faithless]

Does anyone find the flower-thing with Jasmine annoying?

I think it's a trademark. Kind of a show of wholesomeness or something.

[kboy75]

yeah the flower will have to go soon...

i think sinatra boy has to go too. i agreed with randy... he bored me to tears....

hey did randy get in a scuffle with simon last night?

[krome]

i think sinatra boy has to go too. i agreed with randy... he bored me to tears....
AMEN! G0d he was annoying! Totally pathetic - I can't believe Simon gave him a thumbs-up. He's not even good enough to be the throwback novelty act he aspires to! :rolleyes:

[Faithless]

AMEN! G0d he was annoying! Totally pathetic - I can't believe Simon gave him a thumbs-up. He's not even good enough to be the throwback novelty act he aspires to! :rolleyes:
Simon likes Sinatra boy because he's different.

Unfortunately, he's for a different era. Notice the influence of his grandparents? Damn. That's a hard thing to break from.

[Chester]

Simon likes Sinatra boy because he's different.

Unfortunately, he's for a different era. Notice the influence of his grandparents? Damn. That's a hard thing to break from.
That guy is such a fucking schmuck. I haven't seen the latest episodes, but I saw the one where he sang "Always a Woman to Me," and, judging from that, he has approximately 1/832,239,987,456th of Sinatra's charisma, and an even more underwhelming voice.

And every time I look at him, I think of that limp dork from My So-Called Life (http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0108872/Ss/0108872/brian.jpg?path=pgallery&path_key=Gummersall,%20Devon).

[krome]

Agreed. This guy was a really bad Rat Pack karaoke impersonator. I kept waiting for him to bust out and lay it down - but he never did. He was like a car stuck in idle at the Indy 500. It was like waiting to sneeze - but never sneezing. I got musical "blue ears" from this loser. Most underwhelming performance of the night. Easily.

[Faithless]

No love for Red up in heyah! :frown:

I wouldn't go as far as to say schmuck, but I don't think he's AI material.

He is his high school's AI, which is nice.

[mr. x]

who's sinatra boy? can i get a pic?

was he the "pen salesman"?

[Faithless]

who's sinatra boy? can i get a pic?

was he the "pen salesman"?
Sinatra boy:

http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/images/index_johns.jpg

John Stevens.

America probably loves him more than Leah.

BTW: I hate this "After the Break" BS!

[Kuchana]

Does anyone find the flower-thing with Jasmine annoying?

I think it's a trademark. Kind of a show of wholesomeness or something.

Actually it's very common for girls to wear flowers in Hawai and guys are prone to do that as well. Heck I used to wear flowers in my hair all the time. It was cool:)

My picks made it. Yayyy!

[Faithless]

Actually it's very common for girls to wear flowers in Hawai and guys are prone to do that as well. Heck I used to wear flowers in my hair all the time. It was cool:)

My picks made it. Yayyy!
Actually, don't get me wrong, I like the flower. In this age of cookie-cutter stars, the flower sets her apart.

I was just wondering if anyone felt it was annoying.

I was shocked to see Jennifer in the bottom of three, and not Camille.

[Kuchana]

I'm not tired of the flower at all. I think it's quite charming.

I was shocked as well at seeing Jennifer at the bottom. She has an impressive voice.

[Faithless]

Jennifer does.

However, I can see where the "over-singing" knock comes from.

When she does the yelling-singing, she get's so close to the mic, that you can hear the bad sound of it.

Maybe it's just me. :frown:

[LCY]

Or you could just chalk them all up as ign'ant bastids and discuss AI here :)

That's a great idea. Thanks for your words of support, everyone. It really helped.

I'm glad both Camile and Jasmine made it to the next round. Jasmine gave a better performance, but I think Camile still has potential to be impressive. It seems like there are more talented female vocalists than male vocalists this year.

I like Jasmine's flowers, they remind me of Hawaii.

Jennifer's a good singer, but maybe she needs to pick songs that connect with the audience more.

[Faithless]

The problem with Camile is probably as stated by some of the judges -- she looks like she lacks confidence, especially when matched up with the current talent.

I can't be sure, but it looks like Camile slumps.

[krome]

It seems like there are more talented female vocalists than male vocalists this year.
Um, isn't that usually the case? There tend to be more better women singers than men, on average. Compare Xtina and even Britney to Justin and the other boy bands. No comparison. That's why the girls have solo careers whereas the guys have to use strength in numbers and sing harmony together.

[younggiftedandblack]

Man I was on the TWOP boards for American Idol today. White people are starting to hate seriously on Jasmine over there.

Calling her a robot and too perfect and how their getting sick of getting her Hawaiian heritage shoved down their throats :rolleyes:

[Faithless]

Man I was on the TWOP boards for American Idol today. White people are starting to hate seriously on Jasmine over there.

Calling her a robot and too perfect and how their getting sick of getting her Hawaiian heritage shoved down their throats :rolleyes:
What the heck is the TWOP boards?

Hawaiian heritage shoved down their throats. Pllllllease!

After AI is over, they can return to watching Navy NCIS and Cops. :rolleyes:

[younggiftedandblack]

What the heck is the TWOP boards?

Hawaiian heritage shoved down their throats. Pllllllease!

After AI is over, they can return to watching Navy NCIS and Cops. :rolleyes:

Television without Pity. Just a bunch of people talking about TV shows.

AI Link (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showforum=611)

Anyway yeah some of them say they're native Hawaiian's at that people there don't do that hand gesture that she does all the time and that she's basically hamming it up for the show.

[Faithless]

Television without Pity. Just a bunch of people talking about TV shows.

AI Link (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showforum=611)

Anyway yeah some of them say they're native Hawaiian's at that people there don't do that hand gesture that she does all the time and that she's basically hamming it up for the show.
That's the forum that LCY mentioned.

There's no love in TWOP-ville.

Might insite their Hawaiianness by talking crap about their fake hapa-ology. :rolleyes:

[mr. x]

i havent been watching AI so i duno but about TWOP, psssh probly the white hawaiins like "why the fuck does she have that dark skin? im from hawaii and i dont have it!"

[Kuchana]

Man I was on the TWOP boards for American Idol today. White people are starting to hate seriously on Jasmine over there.

Calling her a robot and too perfect and how their getting sick of getting her Hawaiian heritage shoved down their throats :rolleyes:

What's TWOP?

[kitty]

Man I was on the TWOP boards for American Idol today. White people are starting to hate seriously on Jasmine over there.

Calling her a robot and too perfect and how their getting sick of getting her Hawaiian heritage shoved down their throats :rolleyes:

oh no! people of colour on the channels geared to whites? the gasp! the horror!!

please. i have white culture shoved down my throat every hour of every day.

[nifer]

i havent been watching AI so i duno but about TWOP, psssh probly the white hawaiins like "why the fuck does she have that dark skin? im from hawaii and i dont have it!"


bahaha.. its EXACTLY like that. i went on that board after i saw it mentioned over here to see what they were saying (ashamed to admit that :tongue: ) a lot of them were making comments as you mentioned "why does she wear that damn flower in her hair" and "i lived in hawaii for x years and i never did what she is doing".

i agree with kittygirl. those types of people are finally experiencing what we have all our lives

[krome]

A lot of Filipinos have a knack for singing. Anyone else notice this?

[Mr.Lum]

so shes not Hawaiian. bullshiting.eh.


A native of the Fiji Islands, 21-year-old (6/7/82) SUSAN VULACA moved to the United States six and half years ago and now lives in Phoenix, AZ. She currently works as a receptionist at Smith Barney and donates her spare time to kids. Her favorite type of music is jazz, but she also has a great love for the Carpenters, ABBA, the Bee Gees and Chicago.

this is the one I liek. real Islander representing with real pride. not faking it like some others.

[Faithless]

A lot of Filipinos have a knack for singing. Anyone else notice this?
You mean, like Camile?

She needs more knack, I think. :rolleyes:

[Chris]

hey you guys the topic is about American Idol 2004 not about someone ethnicity. Please stay on topic.

[Chester]

hey you guys the topic is about American Idol 2004 not about someone ethnicity. Please stay on topic.
ChottoMatte suggested that the thread be split...I'd suggest the same and would split it if I could.

[SunWuKong]

Totally absurd. He was horrible. I never saw what he did before, but if you're going to sing a Billy Joel tune, you don't do "She's Always a Woman to Me," you fucking dork. It's pretty much his worst song aside from the totally noxious "Uptown Girl," though even that would be more suitable for American Idol.

whaaaaaat???
"She's Always a Woman To Me" is a great song.

I saw the thread you were talking about LCY.

That board sucks. Every other post is a flame:

Jasmine hating post... (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=3114859&view=findpost&p=1134735)

You need another one. Might I suggest this one:

http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25223

hahahah somebody said she looks like Michelle Kwan.
in fact, i think i'll start a new thread about that (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=14822).

anyway, i've split the thread (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=14821).

[younggiftedandblack]

Camille's gonna get voted off tomorrow I think.

[Faithless]

Camille's gonna get voted off tomorrow I think.
Wasn't strong for sure.

But I think John Peter Lewis was worse.

Jasmine -- I'm scaaaaared for you. Tonight's performance was flat. :frown:

[Faithless]

.
Where the heck do find the night's recap for voting? All I can find is an article.

http://www.curlio.com/new_showarticle.php?id=5714

Here's my opinion, in order of appearance:
Diana DeGarmo - She has a beautiful voice, I loved it. Randy and Paula loved it, with Randy giving her a "wow." Simon didn't like it, as he thought she wasn't connecting with the audience. I thought she connected just fine.

George Huff - He did very good. I think he keeps getting better each week. All of the judges liked it, and Simon said that he made a connection with the audience.

Fantasia Barrino - She sang "Always on my Mind" with so much passion. Paula and Randy liked her, but Simon didn't. This started a little fight between the judges, as Simon thought it was "too old." Fantasia handled the criticism well though.

John Stevens - He has such a good voice, but I just can't see him as the "American Idol." I couldn't believe he forgot the words. The judges thought he did an excellent job of covering it though.

Camile Velasco - I didn't like her very much this week. Randy and Paula thought she was great, but Simon didn't seem to like it too much. He said she may sound out of tune to the viewers at home. He also said she needs to relax more and Randy agreed with that.

Jennifer Hudson - She did very bad with her version of "No one Else on Earth." She did bad at the start, she just can't sing those low tones. The judges didn't like her much, with Simon saying she was out of her depth. I agree with that.

Jon Peter Lewis - He was good, but not great. That is a beautiful song, but he made it bad. Randy didn't like him, but Paula thought he did good. Simon didn't say much about his performance, just saying he had an odd voice but that America loves him.

Jasmine Trias - She didn't move me tonight. All the judges thought it wasn't very good, with Randy calling it her worst yet. The song she picked is a difficult song, and she didn't handle it well.

Matthew Rogers - I didn't care for him tonight either. Randy and Paula liked it, but Simon didn't. Then again, has Simon ever liked Matt? Tonight her objected to his smiling.

Latoya London - She did great, had a lot of energy. All of the judges loved her.

Amy Adams - I love her to begin with, and she finally had a great performance. Randy and Paula just loved it, but Simon didn't connect with the song.

[krome]

My ranking from last nite:

1) Amy Adams - She was like a fish in water. A flawless spot-on performance. She looked like a pro in a video - singing, hamming and moving to the camera perfectly. As Paula said, she was "in the pocket." And she could easily segue straight onto the country charts TODAY AS-IS. She appears to be the best natural dancer, too.

2) Diana DeGarmo - Sounded very crossover-country - good solid performance.

3) Latoya London - Did awesome. Picked a rapid-fire country song that was very challenging - probably the hardest song of the night. Really showcased her versatility here and worked the crowd!

4) Jasmine Trias - She can never plain suck, but she was notably off and out of her comfort zone - even though she did try to play it safe with her "type" of song choice. I think Simon docked her for that as well - playing it too safe. She did reveal that she was Pinay, Spanish and Chinese. (Although, we all know many Pinays claim Spanish ancestry without really knowing so for a fact.)

5) Jennifer Hudson - Not great, not bad. She did sound like a man on those low notes!

6) Fantasia Barrino - She tried to be more subdued and "classy," but her tone sounded weird and she just sounded like she was holding back to me.

7) George Huff - Again, the 1-trick pony. This was supposed to be "country" nite - yet he still chose an R&B song covered by a country artist. Cheater. Frankly, I think he has limited range and wanders too much...beats a song to death and shows little finesse.

8) Camile Velasco - She's good, but she'll "never" be great. She'll last a few more rounds, but prolly not past top 5.

9) Jon Peter Lewis - An Abercrummy who looks like a Hobbit and can't sing. Period.

10) Matthew Rogers - Big guy, weak voice. Then again - that may have been intentional last night. Or he just doesn't know how to sing with his diaphragm...

11) John Stevens - This retro-lounge cat needs to GO ASAP! THis guy sings EVERY song the same way - it could be "Slow Jamz" or "My Heart Will Go On."
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I think all the guys need to just go. They all suck.

[nifer]

i'm not really feeling any of the male finalists. my fave up until this week was fantasia, but after hearing latoya last nite :eek: i may have to rethink my stance

jasmine did "ok", i hope she gets voted through because she obviously has talent. she was just off last night.

[younggiftedandblack]

i'm not really feeling any of the male finalists. my fave up until this week was fantasia, but after hearing latoya last nite :eek: i may have to rethink my stance

jasmine did "ok", i hope she gets voted through because she obviously has talent. she was just off last night.

I think Jasmine (and to a lesser degree Camile) has an entire state voting for them.

[Faithless]

My ranking from last nite:
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5) Jennifer Hudson - Not great, not bad. She did sound like a man on those low notes!
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Nice.

All the ladies sounded like men on the low notes. Some were barely audible.

[krome]

^ Seriously. She made those guys sound like Mike Tysons!

[Faithless]

After watching the show, I believe that some of the contestants have never really ever sang country. Not that this is a bad thing.

Kind of disappointing, though. If they consider themselves good singers, they should have tried a little better.

Props to Amy. Although I don't think her version of the Dixie Chicks hit would be an instant seller, Paula.

[krome]

^ That was the point though - to test their versatility with a new genre. Even Amy claimed she had never tried country before either - even though she kicked azz at it.

I did find her overly-saccharine personality a bit put-on and fake, though. I thought LaToya had the best profile piece.

[princess]

one of these days i reallie should sit down and watch an episode

[Faithless]

one of these days i reallie should sit down and watch an episode
Elitist! :biggrin:

It won't destroy any brain cells -- by watching, promise. I thunk.

I hate the profile pieces -- they're sooooo sappy.

I don't get what was wrong with football boy's grinning. Seems like a natural reflex on his part.

[lethal]

Jon Peter Lewis looks like Brian Littrell of the Backstreet Boys.

[Faithless]

Jon Peter Lewis looks like Brian Littrell of the Backstreet Boys.
Suckah survived another week. :mad:

There's got to be a conspiracy.

[lethal]

I've no idea how Jon Stephens made it past this week. He forgot the damn words to the song!

[kimpossible]

My ranking from last nite:

1) Amy Adams - She was like a fish in water. A flawless spot-on performance. She looked like a pro in a video - singing, hamming and moving to the camera perfectly. As Paula said, she was "in the pocket." And she could easily segue straight onto the country charts TODAY AS-IS. She appears to be the best natural dancer, too.

2) Diana DeGarmo - Sounded very crossover-country - good solid performance.

3) Latoya London - Did awesome. Picked a rapid-fire country song that was very challenging - probably the hardest song of the night. Really showcased her versatility here and worked the crowd!

4) Jasmine Trias - She can never plain suck, but she was notably off and out of her comfort zone - even though she did try to play it safe with her "type" of song choice. I think Simon docked her for that as well - playing it too safe. She did reveal that she was Pinay, Spanish and Chinese. (Although, we all know many Pinays claim Spanish ancestry without really knowing so for a fact.)

5) Jennifer Hudson - Not great, not bad. She did sound like a man on those low notes!

6) Fantasia Barrino - She tried to be more subdued and "classy," but her tone sounded weird and she just sounded like she was holding back to me.

7) George Huff - Again, the 1-trick pony. This was supposed to be "country" nite - yet he still chose an R&B song covered by a country artist. Cheater. Frankly, I think he has limited range and wanders too much...beats a song to death and shows little finesse.

8) Camile Velasco - She's good, but she'll "never" be great. She'll last a few more rounds, but prolly not past top 5.

9) Jon Peter Lewis - An Abercrummy who looks like a Hobbit and can't sing. Period.

10) Matthew Rogers - Big guy, weak voice. Then again - that may have been intentional last night. Or he just doesn't know how to sing with his diaphragm...

11) John Stevens - This retro-lounge cat needs to GO ASAP! THis guy sings EVERY song the same way - it could be "Slow Jamz" or "My Heart Will Go On."
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I think all the guys need to just go. They all suck.


^ That was the point though - to test their versatility with a new genre. Even Amy claimed she had never tried country before either - even though she kicked azz at it.

I did find her overly-saccharine personality a bit put-on and fake, though. I thought LaToya had the best profile piece.

Should it scare me that krome's AI analysis is really close to mine?

[kimpossible]

Jon Peter Lewis looks like Brian Littrell of the Backstreet Boys.

Who the fuck is voting for this guy? WHO?!?!

[Faithless]

Who the fuck is voting for this guy? WHO?!?!
Without sounding bigotted, white people with a soft spot.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

they not hawaiian, they filipina.

there was a Fijian girl on tho.

I realize that this thread isn't about someone's ethnicity so I apologize for the following tangent, but why are you always bent on making sure we can tell the difference between like...Samoans or Tongans or Filipinos or Melanesians or whatever? This might offend you, but I frankly, don't really care. I don't care if I can tell the difference between pacific islanders and southeast asians, or not, at least in terms of physical appearance. I don't care if I see a Tongan and think he's Hawaiian. I don't care if I see a Tongan and think he's Filipino. I don't care if I see a Tongan and I guess correctly that he's Tongan. I also don't care if somehow I see a Korean or Vietnamese guy and I think he's Japanese or Chinese or Thai or Mexican. You've already stated that there's like nothing wrong with mistaking Chinese for Japanese or vice versa because you think they look alike to anyone who isn't East Asian, so according to this logic it doesn't matter what we think Jasmine or whatever (I don't watch the show) is. Somehow it's okay to think that Chinese people look like Japanese or Korean people cause they're all socially categorized together but it's not okay to think that Southeast Asians look like PI's because you think they should be socially categorized differently or just because they are from a different 'race'? Heck even Cambodians and Indonesians are technically considered part of the same 'race' as Manchurians depending on who you ask. Maybe I misunderstood some of your posts or intentions in the past, feel free to correct me.

[LCY]

Yay, my favorite Filipino Hawaii girls made it to the next round! I loathe country music so watching a whole hour of it was almost painful. Krome's assessment of the singers was pretty close to mine. I thought the guys weren't very good, especially John Stevens (he forgot the words to the song) and Jon Peter Lewis. Diana was technically solid, but her singing lacks feeling. Camile's getting better. Jasmine didn't pick the right song. LaToya and Fantasia were the best, though.

[krome]

Should it scare me that krome's AI analysis is really close to mine?
I am an excellent music connoisseur/critic (as well as other topics) - don't fool yourself. Consider your taste as good as mine then... :biggrin:

[Faithless]

Yay, my favorite Filipino Hawaii girls made it to the next round! I loathe country music so watching a whole hour of it was almost painful. Krome's assessment of the singers was pretty close to mine. I thought the guys weren't very good, especially John Stevens (he forgot the words to the song) and Jon Peter Lewis. Diana was technically solid, but her singing lacks feeling. Camile's getting better. Jasmine didn't pick the right song. LaToya and Fantasia were the best, though.
How many times does Camille Velasco have to be sent to the bottom three before she eventually goes? :frown:

Hard watching that.

Since I don't know AI history, has any past contestant been subject to that and been very successful?

[kimpossible]

I had a weird thought last night. Jon Peter Lewis and William Hung co-hosting a revamped version of Dance Fever or Solid Gold.

[Faithless]

I had a weird thought last night. Jon Peter Lewis and William Hung co-hosting a revamped version of Dance Fever or Solid Gold.
<* Shuuuuuudders *>

JPL did appear in a production of Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat (http://westyellowstonenews.com/articles/2004/03/05/news/local_headlines/americanidol.txt)

[lethal]

Wow...the bottom 2 this week...its a travesty...

Jasmine and Camile

[LCY]

Sweet Camile was voted off this week. I hope she continues to pursue her passion in music, because I love her soulful style and voice.

Jasmine needs to give a fantastic performance next week if she's to stay in the competition. She could be in the top five, and it would be nice to have at least one Asian make it. As I predicted, John and Jon were safe (and probably the top vote-getters) despite their mediocre performances. I still think Fantasia and LaToya are the best singers.

[lethal]

I think Group C was the top vote getters. John and Jon were in the next group of 3. I bet they were 5th adn 6th in votes.

How Jon Stevens sticks around amazes me. He's terrible...the worst by far.

[nifer]

I think Group C was the top vote getters. John and Jon were in the next group of 3. I bet they were 5th adn 6th in votes.

How Jon Stevens sticks around amazes me. He's terrible...the worst by far.

i agree totally. i wonder who keeps voting for him. true camille and jasmine's performancs this week were sub-par (ok, sometimes downright painful :tongue: ) but jon stevens and that red head guys voice kept craking the entire time! who votes for those two!? :confused:

[Arex]

I'm convinced that the only reason Jon and John are sneaking by each week is because they're two of the three remaining "non-ethnic" people left on the show.

Camille didn't put on a great performance the other night, but she wasn't nearly as flat and unentertaining as the redhead dude, John Stevens. That guy was HORRIBLE.

[Chester]

I'm convinced that the only reason Jon and John are sneaking by each week is because they're two of the three remaining "non-ethnic" people left on the show.Maybe. But, also, my imagination is that silly little girls are the largest voting bloc.

[Faithless]

Thank god JPL is gone.

You can now tuck your cellphones back into your back pockets, next to your tabacco, middle America.

[krome]

Sweet Camile was voted off this week. I hope she continues to pursue her passion in music, because I love her soulful style and voice.
8) Camile Velasco - She's good, but she'll "never" be great. She'll last a few more rounds, but prolly not past top 5.
Called that one a mile away.

Now, some interesting scoop on "sweet" Camille: (http://modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6465&start=16&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)
She was expelled from Seabury HS 2 yrs ago for blowing a guy in the school bathroom. She then had to transfer to St. Anthony HS.

And ever wonder where she got that smoky, throaty voice from? Well, as her HS consisted of mostly decadent rich kids, she was a heavy stoner too!

So, based upon lifestyle choices - she actually prolly was the most "American" Idol. :biggrin:
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It's pathetic Carrot-top and the Hobbit made it past her though. Well, what is the gender split in the voters? I'm guessing heavily-female?

What finalists are left now?

[Faithless]

Called that one a mile away.

Now, some interesting scoop on Camille: (http://modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6465&start=16&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)
She was expelled from Seabury HS 2 yrs ago for blowing a guy in the school bathroom. She then had to transfer to St. Anthony HS.

And ever wonder where she got that smoky, throaty voice from? Well, as her HS consisted of mostly decadent rich kids, she was a big stoner too!

So, based upon lifestyle choices - she actually prolly was the most "American" Idol. :biggrin:
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It's pathetic Carrot-top and the Hobbit made it past her though. Well, what is the gender split in the voters? I'm guessing heavily-female?

What finalists are left now?
Well, that just blows my image of Camille. :frown:

Come to think of it, she did remind me of a stoner.

[Chester]

Sucking cock in the bathroom and weed in the parking lot? She just got infinitely more interesting.

[Faithless]

Well, in fairness, other than the modelminority "scoop" (of crap?), who else has reported this (if even in a cleaner version)?

[mr. x]

Well, in fairness, other than the modelminority "scoop" (of crap?), who else has reported this (if even in a cleaner version)?
Chotto's got a point

its always the black idols and the white idols whose "pasts" come to light

[Faithless]

Anyhoo...

I'm hoping that Red goes next -- for no other reason than I'm tired of him crooning for his grandparents.

[LCY]

I couldn't get into the forum to read the article about Camile. Guess you have to be registered. Anyway, it's a rumor, but I heard she got her GED recently. She's still a sweet talented girl and wish her the best.

The red headed boy should go next, but who knows in this competition. Jasmine was good tonight, and it looked like she ironed her hair. They were all pretty good.

[kboy75]

carrot top has to go...

[Faithless]

I couldn't get into the forum to read the article about Camile. Guess you have to be registered. Anyway, it's a rumor, but I heard she got her GED recently. She's still a sweet talented girl and wish her the best.

The red headed boy should go next, but who knows in this competition. Jasmine was good tonight, and it looked like she ironed her hair. They were all pretty good.
Yeah, but when it comes down to it, and she won --

Do you think Fox would really want to promote her image, if it were true?

[Arex]

Yeah, but when it comes down to it, and she won --

Do you think Fox would really want to promote her image, if it were true?
It certainly makes for better TV. Everybody loves a "scandal!"

And, when it comes down to it, does Fox wanna promote John Steven's image, that of a sucky-ass, no-talent mofo with absolutely no vocal range?? If so, where do I sign up??? Oh, that's right, we already blew our chance with William Hung. But just give Mr. Stevens an accent, high-water pants, and more ENERGY and ENTHUSIASM, and that's essentially what you've got: a redhead William Hung. Please let him go, America...please.

(Can you tell that it really irks me that this guy's still in the competition?)

RX

[krome]

Yeah, but when it comes down to it, and she won --

Do you think Fox would really want to promote her image, if it were true?
Absolutely not! I mean, look how much Paris Hilton's s*x tape hurt her TV show (Simple Life by FOX)! :rolleyes: Or Tommy Lee/Pam A...

They would prolly even exploit it and stack her CD full of songs with the word "blow" in them... :biggrin:

Or, maybe she could bridge genres and do a p0rn-musical? :confused:

[Faithless]

It certainly makes for better TV. Everybody loves a "scandal!"

And, when it comes down to it, does Fox wanna promote John Steven's image, that of a sucky-ass, no-talent mofo with absolutely no vocal range?? If so, where do I sign up??? Oh, that's right, we already blew our chance with William Hung. But just give Mr. Stevens an accent, high-water pants, and more ENERGY and ENTHUSIASM, and that's essentially what you've got: a redhead William Hung. Please let him go, America...please.

(Can you tell that it really irks me that this guy's still in the competition?)

RX
In the end, if America votes Red in, then we have a real problem, here. But I think we're shaping up by keeping Jasmine, Fantasia, George, and my Oakland fav, Latoya, in there.

Everybody loves a scandal, yeah, but I'm sure Camile would prefer not to have that sort of scandal or image.

I don't think Fox would either. One of the vehicles for each of the last few top AI stars has been Radio Disney. The pot smoking whore image would not go well there with the Mouse.
.

Absolutely not! I mean, look how much Paris Hilton's s*x tape hurt her TV show (Simple Life by FOX)! :rolleyes: Or Tommy Lee/Pam A...

They would prolly even exploit it and stack her CD full of songs with the word "blow" in them... :biggrin:

Or, maybe she could bridge genres and do a p0rn-musical? :confused:
In any other Fox program, probably. But I think they want some sort of wholesomeness out of AI.

[Faithless]

Jesus, has American gone stupid.

Jennifer Hudson out. Red still in. It is a wierd popularity contest. :frown:

[Chester]

It's moronic. At least Simon is no longer enamored of that lame scarecrow.

And, at least, Jasmine sticks around for another round.

[lethal]

Any hopes that the red headed stop child of AI will be kicked off next week at least?

[Faithless]

Well, you knew something was coming when Seacrest told Huff to go stand next to the top group. Huff was hesitant, but stood next to Hudson, Latoya, and Fantasia.

Chicago Tribune article (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0404220133apr22,1,5806182.story?coll=chi-newslocalchicago-hed)
George Huff--who mistakenly stood next to Hudson, Barrino and La Toya London when host Ryan Seacrest dramatically told him he was safe and to join the winners' group--put his face in his hands when he heard the news.

The other top vote-getters--John Stevens, Jasmine Trias and Diana DeGarmo--looked shocked as it dawned on them that they were safe.

But was it racially motivated?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117859,00.html
After the show, The New York Post was deluged with calls complaining that the voting was racially motivated since the three woman with the fewest votes were black. There are now only six contestants left.

[Arex]

Wasn't Jennifer Hudson in the top group just a week or two ago? America sure is fickle. Especially given that her performances are so consistently good. This is in contrast with Redhead, whose performances are consistently shitty. So not only is America fickle, it's also stupid and tone-deaf. Redhead probably got a boost 'cause JPL is no longer in the picture. Because of that, I'm guessing he's in it for at least another few weeks.

And I'm sure race played a factor in the results. I don't think there's any conspiracy to keep the black women down though. Unfortunately, being the most talented of the bunch (IMHO), they probably split the vote among those that voted based on talent alone. Then, among those who voted taking race into consideration, they and George Huff split the black vote four ways (or three ways among those who voted for a black female). I'll admit that I voted for Jasmine, in part, based on her ethnicity. If I did it, what's to keep the rest of America from doing it? Of course, that's not to say I would vote for her if she sucked as badly as John Stevens. Of course, as someone mentioned previously, age demographic probably also played a factor. The bottom three don't exactly exude an image that teeny-bopper girls can embrace.

Still, I'm very disappointed with this country. First Bush, now this...=P

RX

[deez nuts]

doesn't one have to have the look to be an idol, as well as to be able to sing?

i'm not a fan of the show, but checking my morning news there was just so much hoopla over it.

she may be a great singer but she looks like ass. she looks like robin from the howard stern show with a little bit of star jones thrown in there.

don't the judges pick wild cards to bring back? maybe they'll bring her back and ship her over to extreme makeover and then make her compete in the finals?

[krome]

Well, you knew something was coming when Seacrest told Huff to go stand next to the top group. Huff was hesitant, but stood next to Hudson, Latoya, and Fantasia.

Chicago Tribune article (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-0404220133apr22,1,5806182.story?coll=chi-newslocalchicago-hed)

But was it racially motivated?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117859,00.html
Well, you really can't complain since it's based on the popular vote. And that's likely largely young white girls - although I have no real stats on that. Anyways, all it really shows is that BMs appeal to and are more marketable to the mainstream than BFs.

Well, duh. :rolleyes:

This also dramatically demonstrates why music labels DO consider image to be such an important factor - because obviously - IT IS. It factors into every music purchase decision by the mass public - so it is only good business practice to recognize that fact.

Whatever happened to Amy, though?

[Faithless]

Well, you really can't complain since it's based on the popular vote. And that's likely largely young white girls - although I have no real stats on that. Anyways, all it really shows is that BMs appeal to and are more marketable to the mainstream than BFs.

Well, duh. :rolleyes:

This also dramatically demonstrates why music labels DO consider image to be such an important factor - because obviously - IT IS. It factors into every music purchase decision by the mass public - so it is only good business practice to recognize that fact.

Whatever happened to Amy, though?
Hm. The image factor. Well then, Red, get ready for the Cartoon Network. :frown:
.
doesn't one have to have the look to be an idol, as well as to be able to sing?

i'm not a fan of the show, but checking my morning news there was just so much hoopla over it.

she may be a great singer but she looks like ass. she looks like robin from the howard stern show with a little bit of star jones thrown in there.

don't the judges pick wild cards to bring back? maybe they'll bring her back and ship her over to extreme makeover and then make her compete in the finals?
I think Jennifer has done herself right and looks pretty cute.

Cracks me up that she's taller and more built than Seacrest.

[mr. x]

i read on yahoo that blacks actually watch it more than whites

[Faithless]

Gloria Estafan songs night.

For the most part, her music proved to be a challenge to most if not all of the singers.

The only singer that shined was Diane Digarmo.

Latoya was safe and Jasmine was fading at the end of her song.

The others were so-so, except for Red who was off-key.

We'll see tonight if there is still a deliberate attempt to keep Red going in the competition. :frown:

[krome]

i read on yahoo that blacks actually watch it more than whites
No way - not in absolute