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nonamerasian
01-13-2004, 10:38 PM
What are some of your favorite old movies?
TB4000
01-13-2004, 10:39 PM
The Maltese Falcon...thanks for asking.
kitty
01-13-2004, 10:43 PM
... they used to make movies in black and white?????
mr. x
01-13-2004, 10:54 PM
Citizen Kane is pretty good, and if your so inclined theres Les Quatre Cent Coups (the 400 blows,french yes, porn no) though it is french but its pretty straightforward. those are just off the top of my head. i think everyone (save the really impressionable) should see The Birth of a Nation at some point, it really makes you think about the nature of propaganda and stuff
Martino
01-14-2004, 02:06 AM
What are some of your favorite old movies?
To Kill a Mockingbird. The picture quality of the DVD is fantastic.
Also All About Eve. And Dr Strangelove.
AngryABCGirl
01-14-2004, 02:22 AM
A Streetcar Named Desire and To Kill a Mockingbird
younggiftedandblack
01-14-2004, 04:48 AM
The Seven Samurai, hands down.
moschikat
01-14-2004, 06:31 PM
ditto what he said.
Also Rashomon, Roman Holiday and the original Sabrina. (what can i say? I'm an Audrey Hepburn fan!)
kitty
01-14-2004, 06:36 PM
oh, i liked roman holiday!
... does half of pleasantville count?
Mo'Taka
01-14-2004, 06:41 PM
Twilight Zone although it isn't a movie per say. But wasn't it a kick-ass show?
TB4000
01-14-2004, 06:43 PM
Oh yeah...the secret life of walter mitty. Still funny to this day.
Shuriken
01-14-2004, 08:29 PM
Shuriken's Top Ten Movies of All Time
(most of 'em are pretty old, and all but two are in black & white)
http://members.aol.com/cinefilie/kane1.jpg
1. CITIZEN KANE
Directed by Orson Welles (USA, 1941)
In his freshman film, theatre director Welles boldly broke the conventional bounds of Hollywood narrative to tell the story of a newspaper tycoon with uncommon depth and complexity. The intricate story line is matched by the intricate visuals of master cinematographer Gregg Toland. A milestone in the annals of cinema.
http://www.1worldfilms.com/images/colorofpomph2.jpg
2. THE COLOR OF POMEGRANATES
Directed by Sergei Paradzhanov (USSR, 1969)
Not a "narrative" movie in the traditional sense of the word, Paradzhanov's film is instead a kaleidoscopic visual meditation on the life of the 18th-century Armenian poet Sayat-Nova. Upon completion, it was cut and banned by the Soviet authorities for its narrative non-conformity and implicit Armenian nationalism.
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/images/directors/02/21/passion.jpg
3. THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC
Directed by Carl Theodor Dreyer (France, 1928)
A minimalist interpretation of the trial and execution of Joan of Arc, Dreyer's film makes up in emotional intensity what it eschews in conventional big-scale spectacle. Never before or since has the fissured human face appeared so riveting on the screen.
http://dvdscan.com/rashomon_big1.jpg
4. RASHOMON
Directed by Akira Kurosawa (Japan, 1950)
Kurosawa's mesmerizing story of four conflicting accounts of the same crime encourages the audience to question their own sense of truth and the passage of time. Toshiro Mifune's feral turn as the bandit remains one of the cinema's all-time great performances.
http://www.indelibleinc.com/kubrick/films/strangelove/images/sellers-strangelove.jpg
5. DR. STRANGELOVE...OR HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE BOMB
Directed by Stanley Kubrick (USA/UK, 1964)
With alternating horror and hilarity — and a cunningly clinical camera — Kubrick gets us to laugh at the unthinkable: nuclear holocaust. The performances by Peter Sellers, George C. Scott, and Slim Pickens remain the highlight of their careers.
http://www.filmmakermagazine.com/spring2000/features/images/all_tomorrow/renais3.jpg
6. HIROSHIMA MON AMOUR
Directed by Alain Resnais (France/Japan, 1959)
With its startling blend of documentary and drama, linear and non-linear story-telling, Resnais's story of an extra-marital affair between a French actress and a Japanese architect helped to inaugurate the worldwide New Wave cinema movement of the 1960s. History and memory are once again incisively interrogated. The uncommon AM/WF pairing is a plus.
http://www.einsiders.com/reviews/dvd/images/beatle6.jpg
7. A HARD DAY'S NIGHT
Directed by Richard Lester (UK/USA, 1964)
The energy and vitality of the 1960s New Wave + the rhythms and irreverence of the Beatles = a cinematic masterpiece.
http://www.cinema-nutrition.com/wongkarwai/images/galfaye.jpg
8. CHUNGKING EXPRESS
Directed by Wong Kar-Wai (Hong Kong, 1994)
Wong defies audience expectations and captures the frenetic atmosphere of pre-hand-over Hong Kong in this film about people trying (and not quite succeeding) to find romance in the big city. Special kudos for the audacity of putting two unrelated stories in the same movie. Wong's companion piece Fallen Angels (1995) is worth checking out as well.
http://www.cinemaitalia.com/fellini/photos/strada2.jpg
9. LA STRADA
Directed by Federico Fellini (Italy, 1954)
This story of a mentally retarded waif tormented by a boorish brute is outstanding for its wondrous and understated observations on the nuances of rustic life in post-war Italy. Fellini's early neo-realist film barely hints at the near-hallucinatory fever dreams that he would become famous for later in his career.
http://www.cubacine.cu/realizad/imagenes/sgiral.jpg
10. THE OTHER FRANCISCO
Directed by Sergio Giral (Cuba, 1974)
In his highly original film, Afro-Cuban director Giral (in picture) adapts a 19th-century Cuban anti-slavery novel, criticizes its middle-class limitations, and then goes on to envision a radical retelling. Where the novel ended with a slave's suicide, Giral's version ends with a slave uprising. Inspiring.
A Streetcar Named Desire.
I saw Rashomon and Citizen Kane...but can't remember a damn thing about either of them.
applehead
01-14-2004, 10:02 PM
watching black and white movies gives me headahces
Martino
01-15-2004, 02:22 AM
watching black and white movies gives me headahces
I go to the Curzon on Shaftsbury Avenue, they show at least one golden oldie a week. You just have to see films like To Have and Have Not on the big screen ... Nosferatu and the original Dracula are so much more atmospheric than on TV ...
ModernLogic
01-19-2004, 05:56 AM
I'm surprised no one mentioned Casablanca. My favorite scene was when the Frenchies out-sung the Germans in that bar. Classic.
TB4000
01-23-2004, 11:54 AM
I'm surprised no one mentioned Casablanca. My favorite scene was when the Frenchies out-sung the Germans in that bar. Classic.
I would say Casablanca, but i figured a bunch of other people probably liked it too. so I went with another bogart flick...though James Cagney is my all time favorite old movie actor.
mr. x
01-23-2004, 05:02 PM
You know, I never could get into Casablanca for some reason...
Actually, off the top of my head, two Bogart favorites are:
*Treasure of the Sierra Madre
*The Black Legion
it happens. for one thing its old fashioned, so to appreciate a classic u hafta disregard everything you've seen that came after it.
and if u made a movie like Casablanca today it'd be considered over the top (acting wise)
thats just how classics are style-wise. they look great for what it is but u CANNOT go back there these days
mr. x
01-24-2004, 01:22 PM
The Virgin Spring...a 1950s Swedish flick...(sad, but powerful)...and Black Rain by Shohei Imamura (not an old B&W, but still an interesting flick)...
we saw Persona in my film class, trippy movie
Martino
01-24-2004, 04:45 PM
Metropolis
With or without the pop/rock soundtrack?
Kuchana
01-24-2004, 05:05 PM
ditto what he said.
Also Rashomon, Roman Holiday and the original Sabrina. (what can i say? I'm an Audrey Hepburn fan!)
So am I! :wink:
TB4000
01-24-2004, 05:10 PM
Hmm, you wouldn't happen to be a DeAnza 'Tavernetti' film student, eh? (I saw Persona in her film class the quarter before last...(yeah, weird film)... :confused:
"Elizabeth...."
Ingmar Bergman had no problems being pretentious, I'll give the man that.
mr. x
01-24-2004, 05:20 PM
Hmm, you wouldn't happen to be a DeAnza 'Tavernetti' film student, eh? (I saw Persona in her film class the quarter before last...(yeah, weird film)... :confused:
were u the black muscleguy?!?! :eek:
my brotha!
i was the asian guy in the class
hmm we were in the class with the creepy old white guy right?
hooligan
01-24-2004, 05:24 PM
Pi!
pi was definitely a good movie, it wasjust intense.
hooligan
01-24-2004, 05:27 PM
Yes! (OMG! Heh, heh...)
I think Tavernetti was being courteous by allowing him to give his opinions...(Heh, heh)...
i demand pics from the both of you!
mr. x
01-24-2004, 05:30 PM
Yes! (OMG! Heh, heh...)
I think Tavernetti was being courteous by allowing him to give his opinions...(Heh, heh)...
guy was slimy slimy. he sat next to the girls and just started mumbling incoherently
TB4000
01-24-2004, 05:31 PM
Man, class reunion going on tonight.
hooligan
01-24-2004, 05:32 PM
guy was slimy slimy. he sat next to the girls and just started mumbling incoherently
"hey baby, i work for an independent film company and we specialize in "amatuer movies" and i can make you a star."
mr. x
01-24-2004, 05:46 PM
"hey baby, i work for an independent film company and we specialize in "amatuer movies" and i can make you a star."
i mentioned it before but anyway ill say it again
so this weirdo comes in accompanying this japanese girl right? first day he came in i figure iono maybe he's her teacher in another class or SOME good explanation. course the next class session she sits on the other side of class than the other day (i wonder why) and he comes in, scopes her out and then proceeds to also go to the other side of class and just HAPPENS to sit next to her again.
anyway so this guy stands up at one point to announce that contrary to rumors he is not "a licensed talent agent" and im thinking the same thing everyone else is thinking. that he's nucking futs. kuro probly knows what im talking about
interestingly enough the day he came in we watched The Toll of the Sea, the movie shoulda screamed at him "YOU ARE AN ASIAPHILE!"
hooligan
01-24-2004, 05:47 PM
i mentioned it before but anyway ill say it again
so this weirdo comes in accompanying this japanese girl right? first day he came in i figure iono maybe he's her teacher in another class or SOME good explanation. course the next class session she sits on the other side of class than the other day (i wonder why) and he comes in, scopes her out and then proceeds to also go to the other side of class and just HAPPENS to sit next to her again.
anyway so this guy stands up at one point to announce that contrary to rumors he is not "a licensed talent agent" and im thinking the same thing everyone else is thinking. that he's nucking futs. kuro probly knows what im talking about
interestingly enough the day he came in we watched The Toll of the Sea, the movie shoulda screamed at him "YOU ARE AN ASIAPHILE!"
oh yeah you did! dmanit, my memory's bad. : \
TB4000
01-24-2004, 05:49 PM
:eek: i mentioned it before but anyway ill say it again
so this weirdo comes in accompanying this japanese girl right? first day he came in i figure iono maybe he's her teacher in another class or SOME good explanation. course the next class session she sits on the other side of class than the other day (i wonder why) and he comes in, scopes her out and then proceeds to also go to the other side of class and just HAPPENS to sit next to her again.
anyway so this guy stands up at one point to announce that contrary to rumors he is not "a licensed talent agent" and im thinking the same thing everyone else is thinking. that he's nucking futs. kuro probly knows what im talking about
interestingly enough the day he came in we watched The Toll of the Sea, the movie shoulda screamed at him "YOU ARE AN ASIAPHILE!"
ya'll classes are like ABC afterschool specials in the making, aren't they? :eek:
With or without the pop/rock soundtrack?
Such a thing for Fritz Lang's Metropolis (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017136/)?
mr. x
01-24-2004, 09:53 PM
:eek:
ya'll classes are like ABC afterschool specials in the making, aren't they? :eek:
yah, cept if it really were id probly find out he's nothing that i expected, in fact he's really a swell guy!
Such a thing for Fritz Lang's Metropolis (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017136/)?
speaking of fritz lang, Cabinet of Dr. Caligari's pretty good. kind of a cop-out ending though, but that was for political reasons
Martino
01-25-2004, 06:29 AM
Such a thing for Fritz Lang's Metropolis (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017136/)?
Oh indeed, new soundtracks were commissioned when films like M, Nosferatu, Metropilis etc. were restored in the mid-Nineties.
Mostly they were classical in inspiration. The new score of the 1925 version of Phantom of the Opera was done by the great Carl Davis., and Philip Glass did the 1933 version of Dracula.
For Metropolis a contemporary 'modern' score was arranged, including songs by the likes of Freddy Mercury. There's also a version with the original 1927 orchestral score available ...
For Metropolis a contemporary 'modern' score was arranged, including songs by the likes of Freddy Mercury. There's also a version with the original 1927 orchestral score available ...
I watched the most recent DVD release, with the 1927 score. Given DVD technology, you'd figger they could put the other soundtrack on as an alternate audio track. Anyway, I looked it up, and apparently Georgio Moroder did the soundtrack. Bonus. Disco Metropolis!
Gonna look into the other films you mentioned. Thanks for pointing it out!
nonamerasian
10-30-2004, 12:06 AM
I like Witness for the Prosecution.
Classic.
TB4000
11-15-2004, 12:24 PM
http://cenhum.artsci.wustl.edu/assets/bl/mar02kane.jpg
It's a pretty powerful piece, even to this day. Orsen Welles knew what he was doing.
hooligan
11-15-2004, 12:31 PM
Tokyo Story by Ozu
sinisterpanda
11-15-2004, 01:30 PM
Pi
Kennyb
11-15-2004, 02:36 PM
Hitchcock's 'Psycho'
Faithless
11-15-2004, 06:33 PM
Seven Samurai.
Shuriken
11-15-2004, 07:33 PM
I agree with TB4000. (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=5078&page=3&pp=15)
s1eve
11-15-2004, 07:52 PM
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927) by F.W. Murnau
PropellerheadCP
11-15-2004, 09:37 PM
It's a tie:
Last Year at Marienbad
and
La Jetee
s1eve
11-15-2004, 09:46 PM
It's a tie:
Last Year at Marienbad
and
La Jetee
Cool, you've seen La Jetee. Beautiful use of black and white stills.
fossilfuel
11-15-2004, 11:19 PM
Dr. Strangelove or Seven Samurai
Fireblade
11-16-2004, 01:47 AM
Clerks.
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