Movie ideas to break the negative stereotypes and give variety

[ChairmanMah]

Since i was on a lunch hour meeting and my thread got closed before i could respond, to those who said that i'm trying to make asian people all thug life is not what i implied. I wanted there to be more variety in roles and roles we can be proud of. Not just the crap that people dish out to us. We need to make roles for ourselves.

Lets see, i already said that there should be a movie about k-town and the L.A. riots.

Please contribute your movie ideas and scenes that you would like to see.

[kitty]

I agree... a movie about the L.A. riots would be really good. I think we're long overdue for a historical epic about the Nanking Massacre.

Also, as much as I hate to say it, "America is in the Heart" would make a good movie adaptation.

[ChairmanMah]

it doesn't even have to be a movie. it can be a documentary.

[Chester]

I'd like to see a movie that has Asian American characters that aren't written with the goal of embodying socio-political polemics.

With Charlotte Sometimes, one of the things I really enjoyed was how the characters' ethnicity had nothing to do with anything...they just happened to be Asian.

[Faithless]

How about a documentary about an Asian band, trying to make in America?

[ChairmanMah]

How about a documentary about an Asian band, trying to make in America? that's a good idea.

[ChairmanMah]

I'd like to see a movie that has Asian American characters that aren't written with the goal of embodying socio-political polemics.

With Charlotte Sometimes, one of the things I really enjoyed was how the characters' ethnicity had nothing to do with anything...they just happened to be Asian.

i agree.

[hooligan]

I'd like to see a movie that has Asian American characters that aren't written with the goal of embodying socio-political polemics.

With Charlotte Sometimes, one of the things I really enjoyed was how the characters' ethnicity had nothing to do with anything...they just happened to be Asian.
some people would argue that fact that their asian in non-asian roles speaks volumes about being asian. ironic.

sa-i-guh? was a documentory about the la riots.

i'm not sure what i want to see about breaking negative stereotypes. most of the ones have already been done. i mean there was better luck tomorrow, dogtown and z-boys showed a japanese american female skateboarder. i guess that's about as out there as it gets.

[xazncrazinessx]

i want a documentary about the vietnamese gangs in boston or cali or somewhere, if for no other reason then that a large part of our population is in gangs or is involved. most of the people in these forums do nothing but hate them as they are a stereotype or try to ignore or put them down but i /come/ from this background and i would like to see a documentary on these people's lives made by other asians to shed light on the whys and wherefores. i say embrace that part of our race and not just push it away like so many people seem to want to do.

[hooligan]

i want a documentary about the vietnamese gangs in boston or cali or somewhere, if for no other reason then that a large part of our population is in gangs or is involved. most of the people in these forums do nothing but hate them as they are a stereotype or try to ignore or put them down but i /come/ from this background and i would like to see a documentary on these people's lives made by other asians to shed light on the whys and wherefores. i say embrace that part of our race and not just push it away like so many people seem to want to do.
there was a documentary about some cambodian guy in a gang. i don't recall the name or what it was about, sorry.

i agree, we better shed light on the gangster azn, i live really close to westminster and there's a lot of gang activity around that area.

[Fireblade]

i want a documentary about the vietnamese gangs in boston or cali or somewhere, if for no other reason then that a large part of our population is in gangs or is involved. most of the people in these forums do nothing but hate them as they are a stereotype or try to ignore or put them down but i /come/ from this background and i would like to see a documentary on these people's lives made by other asians to shed light on the whys and wherefores. i say embrace that part of our race and not just push it away like so many people seem to want to do.

Well if that's the case, share your experiences with us. I happen to be deep in an area filled with wannabe gangstas or those who wish to fulfill those shoes of being a gang member. I always scoff at them, because they don't know what's it like having a gun barrel in their mouths.

Simply said, I'd rather have people see how harsh this lifestyle is, rather than glamourize it like they do in rap videos and such. Yes, there is a bond that ties people together, and the experiences made when you are in a gang. But there's also the violence and death and the tramua that follows when one of your crew dies, is savagely beat from rival gangs, or just a fucked up shoot out with cops who had nothing better to do but harass kids.

Expose that part, and I really want to see if all of us are up for that.

[ChairmanMah]

does anyone know if there are there any aspiring movie writers, directors or producers in YW?

[mr. x]

does anyone know if there are there any aspiring movie writers, directors or producers in YW?

(raises hand)

[xazncrazinessx]

wait... any advice give me some ideas and how to do this... maybe i can make a documentary

[ChairmanMah]

There is also Mr. Shuriken...

...not too mention, moi(although, I think you're meaning only the Asian posters)...


hey kb :cool:

no, not only asians should make movies to make us normal people. In fact, some Asian people in movies could screw us up even more.

Look at "the transporter" and that "ching chong" character from that other movie.

as long as we can be portrayed as regular people who can do extraordinary things, that would be great.

I still really think a fictional story based on the L.A. riots would be a great movie. There could be a couple Asian/Korean families and some events culminating up to the riots as the climax. It could be made to be a really shocking, emotional, moving and powerful movie i think.

[hooligan]

wait... any advice give me some ideas and how to do this... maybe i can make a documentary
i think the easiest way would be to take a video camera, start open end interviewing your friends who ran with you back in the day. and start cataloguing the tapes until you find a theme and work with that.

g'luck

[Faithless]

Maybe we need an Asian George Lopez show.

To do it right, you need at least two different, dominant, Asian cultures in the family, so people can see, understand, and identify with them.

Maybe like, mom and pop, being Chinese and half-Japanese/white.

There can be brothers and sisters of the mom and pop's age, married to Philipinos, Koreans, etc. for other Asian/non-Asian cultural perspectives.

Have it take place in a big city with a Chinatown / Japantown, etc.

Let it have a crazy character that likes to run around in his blue undies, like Hooligan.

Call it, "Elbert's House".

[SunWuKong]

Maybe we need an Asian George Lopez show.

To do it right, you need at least two different, dominant, Asian cultures in the family, so people can see, understand, and identify with them.

Maybe like, mom and pop, being Chinese and half-Japanese/white.

There can be brothers and sisters of the mom and pop's age, married to Philipinos, Koreans, etc. for other Asian/non-Asian cultural perspectives.

Have it take place in a big city with a Chinatown / Japantown, etc.

Let it have a crazy character that likes to run around in his blue undies, like Hooligan.

Call it, "Elbert's House".

i watched an episode or two of the George Lopez Show. it didn't seem like he played up any Latino culture at all. so maybe that's what Asian people need - an Asian sitcom family that speaks perfect English and doesn't really do much "Asian" things, instead of what All American Girl was trying to do.

[mr. x]

i watched an episode or two of the George Lopez Show. it didn't seem like he played up any Latino culture at all. so maybe that's what Asian people need - an Asian sitcom family that speaks perfect English and doesn't really do much "Asian" things, instead of what All American Girl was trying to do.

i remember on the commercial for that they had her wear a (traditional korean dress) and she's like "how am i supposed to wear this to the mall" maybe its just me but i wasnt impressed by the promo

[SunWuKong]

i kind of wish i had watched All American Girl when it was running. i think i didn't get whatever channel it was supposed to be on or something, and that's why i didn't watch it. i did try to watch Martial Law every week. but after a while, that show was getting repetitive like most TV shows tend to get.

[mr. x]

i kind of wish i had watched All American Girl when it was running. i think i didn't get whatever channel it was supposed to be on or something, and that's why i didn't watch it. i did try to watch Martial Law every week. but after a while, that show was getting repetitive like most TV shows tend to get.

yeah it was a real novelty at first, i mean it was like show that knew it was a show but got a bit too dramatic later for its own good.

[golden_buns]

think we're long overdue for a historical epic about the Nanking Massacre.


Err...it wouldn't that great over here in ASia, especially at the time in which S Korea and China are trying to improve relations with Japan. It would fuel anti-japanese sentiments to the top

[SunWuKong]

It would fuel anti-japanese sentiments to the top

Junichiro Koizumi is already doing a fine job at that all by himself.

[Faithless]

i watched an episode or two of the George Lopez Show. it didn't seem like he played up any Latino culture at all. so maybe that's what Asian people need - an Asian sitcom family that speaks perfect English and doesn't really do much "Asian" things, instead of what All American Girl was trying to do.

Maybe the central characters shouldn't have the accents, especially if they are 2nd or 3rd gen.

But to have a realistic Asian family, you need the 1st gen mom & pop. I could see the accent being a part of the character, but not to make them look stupid like in All American Girl.

Speaking of which, I remember this quote from the show: I like rice. It's binding.

[Faithless]

i remember on the commercial for that they had her wear a (traditional korean dress) and she's like "how am i supposed to wear this to the mall" maybe its just me but i wasnt impressed by the promo

Yeah, I wouldn't want to see an Asian sitcom where there's that old "fighting with the old world" feel.

Then you have Asiaphiles going, "Oh, that's soooo saaaaad."

[Faithless]

As far as another idea:

I've always felt that Peter Gunn should be remade on the big screen.

Since Hollywood likes to do use white actors for Asian roles, why not reprise the role with a Eurasian actor?

[ellsworth81]

http://www.naatanet.org/community/filmmaker/opportunities.html

may or may not be useful

[kitty]

i don't even know i can't imagine myself as a cop. but i wouldn't be an animal myself for godssakes. fuckers will wait fo a crew beef to go down and thne when soljah boys are on the flo they'll beat them with their batons. most asian sets aren't the type of thing like the blacks are, you know selling heavy drugs and shit. course some are, you have AB for one but most of us just good friends, and close sets sure we do crimes and shit but still we shouldn't be treated like animals.

okay... i don't know what your larger point is here, but uhm... what's with the black hating? heavy drugs and shit?

don't make me be a nazi on your ass.

[etcj]

Well how about a movie about Asian punk rockers? More American punk rock versus UK punk rock...

[Martino]

What about a biopic of the life, achievements, hardships and disapointments of a contemporary AA actor? James Hong has been doing movies since the 50's at least ... or Victor Wong, one of the more memorable character actors? Don't know who you would cast to play him ...

[Craig]

Err...it wouldn't that great over here in ASia, especially at the time in which S Korea and China are trying to improve relations with Japan. It would fuel anti-japanese sentiments to the top
What about "Don't Cry Nanking" from 1995 ? I thought it was a good movie.

http://www.ram.org/ramblings/movies/dont_cry_nanking.html

http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.1359/qx/details.htm

[Shuriken]

http://i.cnn.net/v5cache/THEWB/Images/Dynamic/i19/OF-JCho-BW-A_1x1_180.jpg http://img4.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/00/02/50/47/lucy.gif

What the world needs is a good Asian American romantic comedy about two Asian Americans falling in love. That would probably do more to humanize the Asian American image to a broader audience than anything else I can think of.

Maybe something starring Lucy Liu and John Cho?

[kitty]

http://i.cnn.net/v5cache/THEWB/Images/Dynamic/i19/OF-JCho-BW-A_1x1_180.jpg http://img4.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/00/02/50/47/lucy.gif

What the world needs is a good Asian American romantic comedy about two Asian Americans falling in love. That would probably do more to humanize the Asian American image to a broader audience than anything else I can think of.

Maybe something starring Lucy Liu and John Cho?

isn't lucy a little old for john?

[537]

No offense, but I would rather claw my eyeballs out and eat them than to watch Lucy Liu and John Cho bat eyelashes at each other.

But your idea is sound, regarding the romantic comedy. I'm sure I'd be forced to watch it. =X

[kitty]

the interesting thing about the romantic comedy thing is -- would it really humanize Asian Americans?

I think it's a good idea, but there's a thriving African American romantic comedy genre (Deliver Us From Eva, Brown Sugar, etc...) and most of them end up being watched only by African Americans, and get hyped as bad movies you need to see to support your community. They also end up being targeted, publicity wise, to African Americans, rather than as a mainstream movie. I think the white mainstream largely ignores or writes off such movies... so, would an Asian American romantic comedy end up segregating the Asian American audience from the white mainstream or positively indicate the existence of such an audience?

Incidentally, Deliver Us from Eva is bad. Brown Sugar is *really* *really* good.

[ChairmanMah]

the interesting thing about the romantic comedy thing is -- would it really humanize Asian Americans?

I think so, but who needs Lucy Liu. She'd probly be too expensive for T.V. anyways.

What would be good is another show like Friends but with a more multicultural twist (sounds like something that would be produced in Canada)

Also, i'd like to see fresh no name actors and actresses who were really good looking and actually funny. And dammit, i wanna see a young hottie with an asian guy on t.v. for once in my life. That would make me happy.

That's what i liked about BLT, there were actors i've never seen before.

[kitty]

And dammit, i wanna see a young hottie with an asian guy on t.v. for once in my life. That would make me happy.

the medallion?

[ChairmanMah]

if you're from Canada, you've probly watched TRAIN 48. I think it's a great show that talks about many important issues and current events from many different points of view with a humorous twist. And it looks like it doesn't cost that much to make. If a show like that can gain widespread viewing I can't see why a Multicultural Asian "Friends" couldn't either. Especially in Canada.

[ChairmanMah]

the medallion? haven't seen it. I heard it doesn't utilize Jacki's real skills and uses too much computer animation crap.

[ellsworth81]

Incidentally, Deliver Us from Eva is bad. Brown Sugar is *really* *really* good.

It's LL's midas touch. what was the last good movie he was in .... Deep Blue Sea doesn't count because he wasn't a main character persay

[Green_Circle]

Or a movie dealing with the boy/girl relationships we all go through complete with the IR and selling out and self hate and White worship. Let's make this a blockbuster or in many bites as in series style on tv. I think the big screen helps capture the Asian experience better for some reason or other.

[Shuriken]

isn't lucy a little old for john?

Isn't Michael Douglas a little old for Catherine Zeta-Jones?

[kitty]

Isn't Michael Douglas a little old for Catherine Zeta-Jones?

don't get me started on that :)

[Tao]

the medallion?

i <3 jenn love hewitt

especially with my pee pee

[moJo]

the interesting thing about the romantic comedy thing is -- would it really humanize Asian Americans?

I think it's a good idea, but there's a thriving African American romantic comedy genre (Deliver Us From Eva, Brown Sugar, etc...) and most of them end up being watched only by African Americans, and get hyped as bad movies you need to see to support your community. They also end up being targeted, publicity wise, to African Americans, rather than as a mainstream movie. I think the white mainstream largely ignores or writes off such movies... so, would an Asian American romantic comedy end up segregating the Asian American audience from the white mainstream or positively indicate the existence of such an audience?

Incidentally, Deliver Us from Eva is bad. Brown Sugar is *really* *really* good.
That's a good point.

Also, I concur, Brown Sugar was awesome. Especially Mos Def. Hehe, he stole every scene he was in.

[Oblivious]

... But your idea is sound, regarding the romantic comedy. I'm sure I'd be forced to watch it. =X
mm hmm...*crosses arms*

[xazncrazinessx]

oh i didn't mean it in that way. actually alot of my friends are black and aren't drug users, but i did mean that alot of the larger black sets deal drugs and are heavy into that biz. asian sets as a whole don't deal nearly as much while there are exceptions i'm talking about the majority. of course that might be because asian sets as awhole are smaller and more tightly knit, more of a family then a biz.

[mr. x]

u know i dont wanna see Lucy Liu in any kind of romantic movie. she never plays romantic roles either, only the "down boy (whip)!" kinda roles

[ChairmanMah]

u know i dont wanna see Lucy Liu in any kind of romantic movie. she never plays romantic roles either, only the "down boy (whip)!" kinda roles

she does. the last most emotional role she played was Ling and she was pretty aggressive.

[ellsworth81]

i <3 jenn love hewitt

especially with my pee pee

yea. she's mega cute.