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SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 03:06 PM
oh my god...

Anita Mui died of throat cancer... :frown: :frown: :frown:

i haven't found an English site with the news yet, but it's all over the Chinese news...

http://orientaldaily.com.hk/new/new_a0.html

kitty
12-29-2003, 03:08 PM
I'm really sorry but... who?

TB4000
12-29-2003, 03:15 PM
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0611315/

kasia
12-29-2003, 03:16 PM
wow. what is going on in hong kong? it's like one death after another. roman, leslie, now anita.

kitty
12-29-2003, 03:20 PM
http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0611315/

Thanks :) I'm sorry... I hadn't(haven't) seen anything she's been in...

but it's still awful. :(

kasia
12-29-2003, 03:20 PM
September 6th, 2003: In a development that knocked off the withdrawal of Article 23 as the top story on most of Hong Kong's Chinese language newspapers, Anita Mui Yim-Fong announced at a press conference yesterday afternoon that she has cervical cancer. The announcement put an end to a week of intense speculation about the state of the veteran entertainer's health.

Flanked by a phalanx of Hong Kong's biggest entertainment celebrities, Anita Mui (right) -- dressed in a black halter top, black knit cap and jeans -- walked into a conference room at the Wanchai district's Intercontinental Hotel at 3:45 pm. Confirming the worst fears of her fans, Mui told reporters: "I am calmly telling you now that I have cancer. It is cervical cancer and is not considered life-threatening. It is not at a terminal stage. I am not dead yet (laughs). The people who are hanging around downstairs (from her home) waiting for me to die, I don't know if they are really worried about me or if they are just nosy people. I am sure that most people are concerned about me."

Mui then went on to explain that she kept her disease a secret because she did not want to worry her family, friends and fans. Moreover, she felt confident that she could beat the cancer quickly and quietly. However, the degree of media interest in her condition became too intense and too speculative for her to continue to remain silent. Mui: "The reason I kept my condition private was not because I was afraid of letting people know. It was because I felt that I could beat this condition. I was deeply confident that, in a short while, I would be better. I didn't want to worry my friends, my family and my fans. I didn't want the people who love me to worry about me."

Winding up her remarks, Mui pleaded with the media to stop hounding her and to stop speculating wildy about her condition. Mui: "Today, this is all I want to say. I don't want to say too much. I have made clear what needs to be made clear. I hope that people do not twist my words and come up with another version. I hope they write the truth and treat me with the fairness I deserve. In the coming days, I will continue to receive treatment. I hope to get well quickly. You do not need to worry about me. You do not need to over report my condition. Just write the truth. Watch me win this war."

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 03:23 PM
her name in Mandarin is Mei Yan Fang, if that helps. and Mui Yim Fong in Cantonese.

this is so weird and sad... she's every bit as much a musical legend as Leslie was... :frown: :frown: :frown: in fact for a while they were the most popular male and female singers in HK.

moJo
12-29-2003, 03:28 PM
oh...wow...my mom was just telling me about the press conference last night. i just knew she was a bigname in HK, with a prolific career. sad...:(

achtungbaby
12-29-2003, 03:29 PM
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&edition=us&q=anita+mui

kasia
12-29-2003, 03:42 PM
are we sure she's dead?

Faithless
12-29-2003, 03:52 PM
Her death is on the front page here (http://www.scmp.com/)

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 03:56 PM
are we sure she's dead?

the Chinese sites seem to be confirming it. Apple Daily (http://appledaily.atnext.com/template/apple/sec_main.cfm), Oriental Daily (http://orientaldaily.com.hk/new/new_a0.html), sina.com (http://china.sina.com.tw/ent/2003-12-30/0526265825.html), anitamuiclub.com (http://www.anitamuiclub.com/), etc etc.

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 03:58 PM
Her death is on the front page here (http://www.scmp.com/)


ahh, that's right. i should have looked on SCMP for English language news.

ellsworth81
12-29-2003, 03:59 PM
damn. that really blows. from what i understand she was a great singer too.

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 04:01 PM
damn. that really blows. from what i understand she was a great singer too.

she was. she had a very powerful voice. she started out singing on the streets for a living when she was a little girl.

deez nuts
12-29-2003, 04:04 PM
i thought she died sometime last week

kasia
12-29-2003, 04:05 PM
she was such a great singer that - when she tried to retire, the hong kong triads wouldn't let her.

Faithless
12-29-2003, 04:08 PM
she was such a great singer that - when she tried to retire, the hong kong triads wouldn't let her.

That's scarey. :frown:

moJo
12-29-2003, 04:10 PM
she was such a great singer that - when she tried to retire, the hong kong triads wouldn't let her.
:confused: can you explain that a bit?

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 04:14 PM
:confused: can you explain that a bit?

some triad groups have their hands in the entertainment industry. basically she made money for them, so they wouldn't let her retire.

the US wouldn't let Stephen Chow emigrate to the US because of triad ties. the production company for many of his movies is owned by a triad boss. he (the triad boss) has since became legitimate, but when he first started in the movie industry, it was all shady.

deez nuts
12-29-2003, 04:17 PM
:confused: can you explain that a bit?


think the gay mafia and barbra streisand.

deez nuts
12-29-2003, 04:18 PM
Thanks :) I'm sorry... I hadn't(haven't) seen anything she's been in...

but it's still awful. :(

she's that chick in the rumble in the bronx with jackie chan. the nerdy looking one not the slutty looking one

moJo
12-29-2003, 04:26 PM
"made money for them" the same way Chow did? and so if they both left/retired, they woulda mysteriously disappeared or died? and this is commonplace and common knowledge in HK?

Martino
12-29-2003, 04:31 PM
oh my god...

Anita Mui died of throat cancer... :frown: :frown: :frown:

Another icon lost ...

etcj
12-29-2003, 04:33 PM
My mom got really shocked when I told her the news. Apparently this has really been publicized in the US yet...

Martino
12-29-2003, 04:37 PM
some triad groups have their hands in the entertainment industry. basically she made money for them, so they wouldn't let her retire.

the US wouldn't let Stephen Chow emigrate to the US because of triad ties. the production company for many of his movies is owned by a triad boss. he (the triad boss) has since became legitimate, but when he first started in the movie industry, it was all shady.

There's an HK actor (name escapes me, big chap) who was a notorious triad member ... played clownish villains in some of Chow's movies. Same guy?

kasia
12-29-2003, 04:52 PM
:confused: can you explain that a bit?

i just remember she came to the US and was a guest singer at this karaoke contest in which my teacher was a contestant. there, she announced that she was retiring and was only singing this last time b/c the money was going to the chinatown senior citizen's center.

then, the next thing i knew, her bf was kidnapped by the triads in hong kong and they wouldn't let him go unless she promised to continue singing.

artsfartsyjanet
12-29-2003, 04:54 PM
i know who she is. *how sad*.... I remember watching her perform when I was a child watching the countless vhs tapes my mom rented here in the States.

kasia
12-29-2003, 05:00 PM
her name in Mandarin is Mei Yan Fang, if that helps. and Mui Yim Fong in Cantonese.

this is so weird and sad... she's every bit as much a musical legend as Leslie was... :frown: :frown: :frown: in fact for a while they were the most popular male and female singers in HK.

no way. it was always alan tam and anita mui.

moJo
12-29-2003, 05:03 PM
then, the next thing i knew, her bf was kidnapped by the triads in hong kong and they wouldn't let him go unless she promised to continue singing.
whoa, this triad business just sounds like a really exaggerated movie. not that i don't believe you and the others. it's just so unreal...and it seems like no one (you guys included!) blinks an eye. i guess i'm really in the dark about this stuff.

oh, my mom just told me that the chinese radio station here announced her death around noon today.

moJo
12-29-2003, 05:05 PM
no way. it was always alan tam and anita mui.
is that Tam Wing Loon? i think i'm related to him (by marriage, not blood) on my mom's side.

(on a sidenote: i don't think i've ever talked about HK pop stars at length like this. kinda weird.)

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 05:28 PM
"made money for them" the same way Chow did? and so if they both left/retired, they woulda mysteriously disappeared or died? and this is commonplace and common knowledge in HK?

why would they kill those entertainers if they can be made to make more money for the triad?

yeah it's common knowledge in HK.

kitty
12-29-2003, 05:28 PM
she's that chick in the rumble in the bronx with jackie chan. the nerdy looking one not the slutty looking one


Oooohhhhhh!!! Really...? she's young...

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 05:30 PM
There's an HK actor (name escapes me, big chap) who was a notorious triad member ... played clownish villains in some of Chow's movies. Same guy?

no. he has never (not to my knowledge) appeared in one of the movies he produced. he started off with one of his brothers, but now it's basically just him running the show.

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 05:33 PM
no way. it was always alan tam and anita mui.

well, that was before Alan Tam retired from his music career. i remember watching awards shows and it was always Alan Tam and Anita Mui winning the best awards. when Alan Tam retired, Leslie was the next biggest thing.

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 05:35 PM
whoa, this triad business just sounds like a really exaggerated movie. not that i don't believe you and the others. it's just so unreal...and it seems like no one (you guys included!) blinks an eye. i guess i'm really in the dark about this stuff.

oh, my mom just told me that the chinese radio station here announced her death around noon today.

yeah, well, triad groups have just always been a part of HK society. so nobody is ever really surprised by some of the things they do.

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 05:36 PM
is that Tam Wing Loon? i think i'm related to him (by marriage, not blood) on my mom's side.

(on a sidenote: i don't think i've ever talked about HK pop stars at length like this. kinda weird.)

oh really? my grandfather claims that we're from the same heung ha as him.

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 05:36 PM
Oooohhhhhh!!! Really...? she's young...

yeah. only 40. :frown:

deez nuts
12-29-2003, 06:11 PM
not to kick the dead while they're down.

but, in my opinion, i always thought she was an overrated entertainer like leslie cheung who killed himself last year, was it? her singing, acting and overall movements were "hao er shing" (i guess in english this would be induces vomitting).

but, a tragic loss of an entertainment icon, nonetheless, and at such a young age, like leslie's suicide.

Chris
12-29-2003, 06:26 PM
OMG I am so very shock. :(

I grew up with her. I love the movies she was in too. Damn her death is affecting me more than leslie did.

damn...

Sad day indeed.

Faithless
12-29-2003, 09:28 PM
I still don't have a clue of who she is, but here's a link to her passing:

Hong Kong pop queen Anita Mui dies (http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/30/content_294436.htm)
Anita Mui is known as Hong Kong's Madonna.
Does this quote do her justice?

Faithless
12-29-2003, 09:33 PM
Interesting quote on her life in retrospect:

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/eastasia/view/64068/1/.html
But inspite of her glittering success, Mui had once revealed that her biggest regret was not furthering her education.

She said she would have preferred to have been a lawyer instead of a pop-star.

kasia
12-29-2003, 09:37 PM
I still don't have a clue of who she is, but here's a link to her passing:

Hong Kong pop queen Anita Mui dies (http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/30/content_294436.htm)

Does this quote do her justice?

yeh. she was pretty funky and stylish. but she aged out of it. she was also very close friends with jackie chan and they did some movies together.

she is probably more outspoken than Madonna, though. she was always a great emcee. she would've made a good attorney.

SunWuKong
12-29-2003, 09:45 PM
i really like the fact that she and many singers of her generation, like Alan Tam, rose out of real musical backgrounds. they were very poor and had to struggle to get to where they were. nowadays all you need is the right look and connection and the studio will package you up and teach you how to sing. or attempt to, anyway.

Faithless
12-29-2003, 10:05 PM
Oh, well, I learn all about a pop diva after she passes. :frown:

There's got to be a category for folks like me -- Asia-ignorant. :rolleyes:

Chris
12-29-2003, 10:30 PM
She got to be the Teresa Teng of our generation.

She was also a great actress as well.

himura-dono
12-29-2003, 10:41 PM
OMFG.... T_T she was so cool. *goes back to being shocked and sad*

kasia
12-30-2003, 12:14 AM
She got to be the Teresa Teng of our generation.

She was also a great actress as well.

that movie with her and jackie chan - 'kay jik' ("miracle"), where she sang, "rose, rose, i love you...". she was hilarious in that.

Martino
12-30-2003, 03:02 AM
Thanks :) I'm sorry... I hadn't(haven't) seen anything she's been in...

but it's still awful. :(

Her best role, I think, was as the ghost in Rouge ... she played Lesley Cheung's lover in that. She did some action movies too ... Heroic Trio?

Rose
12-30-2003, 06:40 AM
Her best role, I think, was as the ghost in Rouge ... she played Lesley Cheung's lover in that. She did some action movies too ... Heroic Trio?


I agree, both Leslie and Anita were great in Rouge. I liked her in A Better Tommorrow II as well.
It has been a sad year with both Leslie and Anita passing.
Fortunately for us, they will live on in the world of film and music. May they both RIP.

ellsworth81
12-30-2003, 07:15 AM
She got to be the Teresa Teng of our generation.

She was also a great actress as well.

Teng is my favorite singer! :biggrin:

Martino
12-30-2003, 08:47 AM
oh my god...

Anita Mui died of throat cancer... :frown: :frown: :frown:

i haven't found an English site with the news yet, but it's all over the Chinese news...

http://orientaldaily.com.hk/new/new_a0.html

The BBC website tactfully hints that it was cervical cancer ....

She left us far too young.

SunWuKong
12-30-2003, 09:06 AM
The BBC website tactfully hints that it was cervical cancer ....

She left us far too young.

yeah it is cervical cancer, not throat cancer. sorry about that. bad translation job i did.

kasia
12-30-2003, 10:36 AM
I agree, both Leslie and Anita were great in Rouge. I liked her in A Better Tommorrow II as well.
It has been a sad year with both Leslie and Anita passing.
Fortunately for us, they will live on in the world of film and music. May they both RIP.

she wasn't in a better tomorrow II.

was she?????

ellsworth81
12-30-2003, 10:59 AM
she wasn't in a better tomorrow II.

was she?????
IMDB says she was in part 3. the one set in vietnam.

Rose
12-30-2003, 11:02 AM
she wasn't in a better tomorrow II.

was she?????

Sorry, Kasia.... A Better Tomorrow III. Tony Leung Kar Fai was in that as well with Chow Yun Fat.

kasia
12-30-2003, 11:06 AM
oh, okay. i never saw part III b/c leslie wasn't in it.

anyhow, i haven't said this yet so - anita mui, r.i.p. you've made an impact on a lot of our lives, and we'll forever remember you for that.

Oblivious
12-30-2003, 11:21 AM
:frown: I couldn't believe it. I remember watching her on TV when I was a kid. My mom loved her. I do believe she was like the Madonna of our culture. So sad at such a young age. :frown:

ellsworth81
12-30-2003, 11:32 AM
:frown: I couldn't believe it. I remember watching her on TV when I was a kid. My mom loved her. I do believe she was like the Madonna of our culture. So sad at such a young age. :frown:
Was Anita as flamboyant?

Oblivious
12-30-2003, 11:35 AM
Was Anita as flamboyant?

Hmmm...I don't know if I could say she was as flamboyant as Madonna but she sure was the most flamboyant of all the chinese singers during her time. She was always so funky and daring.

tazadar
12-30-2003, 11:40 AM
Even though, she was funky and wore weird costumes but a classy lady. Anita is sad lost.

SunWuKong
12-30-2003, 02:34 PM
i believe she was also somewhat of a role model at the height of her popularity, because she was a female public figure that portrayed a very strong personality and attitude, and she didn't have to rely on a very girly image. she really made an impact in Chinese entertainment.

RIP.

bii
12-30-2003, 02:40 PM
OMG! She was just recently giving concerts & was scheduled to be in an upcoming Yimou film. I had no doubt in my mind that she would beat this. I'm at a loss for words

:frown:

DragonKnight
12-30-2003, 02:46 PM
Aww no...not Anita. She played the cool, dorky characters too. :frown:

xdlin22
12-30-2003, 11:00 PM
Rip anita, shes great and so beautiful

Faithless
12-31-2003, 09:18 AM
Checked with the local music shop that features pop music from China. They hadn't really sold stuff from Anita in the recent past.

But they promised that this weekend, they would be getting more stuff in, because of the inquiries.

(99 Ranch shopping mall in Richmond, CA.)

I'm interested in hearing her sound.

Faithless
12-31-2003, 09:21 AM
Found a link with an mp3 for Anita:

http://tati.pezzie.com/uploads/

Probably only available for a short time.

tazadar
12-31-2003, 10:46 AM
OMG! She was just recently giving concerts & was scheduled to be in an upcoming Yimou film. I had no doubt in my mind that she would beat this. I'm at a loss for words

:frown:
I was praying for her too, but from the press conference she looked very weak. She might have wanted to work and leave her fans with "Ambush From Ten Directions" as her last film. It would have been nice.

Faithless
12-31-2003, 12:59 PM
What was basically the style of Anita's music? Funky? Or folksy?

tazadar
12-31-2003, 02:52 PM
What was basically the style of Anita's music? Funky? Or folksy?
pop music

Here's an English article on Anita Mui's passing.
http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/30/content_294436.htm

Faithless
12-31-2003, 03:40 PM
pop music

Here's an English article on Anita Mui's passing.
http://www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/30/content_294436.htm

Thanks.
... Known as "Asian Madonna", ...

Now, I know I want to get some of her music.

Hope Anita was a better actress. :frown:

Martino
12-31-2003, 03:45 PM
Thanks.


Now, I know I want to get some of her music.

Hope Anita was a better actress. :frown:

Much better actress than Madonna.

SunWuKong
12-31-2003, 04:11 PM
What was basically the style of Anita's music? Funky? Or folksy?


Chinese pop, basically. the idea of different styles of music is practically non-existent in mainstream Chinese music. if you listen to less popular and more independent musicians, you may get a clearer sense of a particular style.

but she did most of her best musical work in the 80s, so a lot of her songs will have an 80s feel to it.

Martino
12-31-2003, 04:24 PM
Chinese pop, basically. the idea of different styles of music is practically non-existent in mainstream Chinese music. if you listen to less popular and more independent musicians, you may get a clearer sense of a particular style.

but she did most of her best musical work in the 80s, so a lot of her songs will have an 80s feel to it.

Definative 80s. I read that Grasshopper visited her bedside. I had no idea they were still together ...

SunWuKong
12-31-2003, 04:29 PM
Definative 80s. I read that Grasshopper visited her bedside. I had no idea they were still together ...

i don't think they are. they probably meant that the former members of the group visited her.

ren28
01-01-2004, 05:07 AM
Wow, that sucks like crazy. I saw her in a bunch of movies that I like. :frown:

Faithless
01-01-2004, 01:46 PM
Chinese pop, basically. the idea of different styles of music is practically non-existent in mainstream Chinese music. if you listen to less popular and more independent musicians, you may get a clearer sense of a particular style.

but she did most of her best musical work in the 80s, so a lot of her songs will have an 80s feel to it.

OK.

So who here owns what CD (or tape or record)?

kasia
01-01-2004, 01:49 PM
um...the black and red cassette from the 80's.

SunWuKong
01-01-2004, 02:36 PM
OK.

So who here owns what CD (or tape or record)?

i just have some mp3s. you can download them, too. i suggest using WinMX. seems to be better for Chinese songs. do you know how to type her name in Chinese?

Faithless
01-01-2004, 04:38 PM
i just have some mp3s. you can download them, too. i suggest using WinMX. seems to be better for Chinese songs. do you know how to type her name in Chinese?

Can't configure WinMX properly. Behind a restricted firewall.

Would typing her name in Chinese only be useful for WinMX searches?

Faithless
01-01-2004, 04:55 PM
GEEZ! Now I recognize her. She was in that Jackie Chan flik, "Rumble in the Bronx".

http://www.lovehkfilm.com/people/mui_anita.htm

List of available CD's

From global.yesasia.com (http://global.yesasia.com/en/artIdxDept.aspx/aid-220/aname-Anita-Mui/section-music/code-c/)

Faithless
01-01-2004, 04:58 PM
Typing her name in Chinese:

http://www.ocrat.com/chargif/stathkmv/mui-yf.html

achtungbaby
01-01-2004, 05:38 PM
Weird. I had a dream about Anita Mui last night.

Faithless
01-01-2004, 06:04 PM
Here's a web page that has links to two mp3's and the names and words to the songs --

Don't Ask About Life
Woman's Heart

http://www.anitarium.com/heroic.html

Is it a good translation?

SunWuKong
01-02-2004, 12:22 AM
Would typing her name in Chinese only be useful for WinMX searches?

well you can try it on kazaa, too, but i think WinMX is better for searching for files with Chinese filenames. but i'm sure her English name would yield plenty of search results, too.

if this shows up on your browser, you can try copy and pasting: 梅艷芳

tvbdude
01-02-2004, 01:49 AM
There's an HK actor (name escapes me, big chap) who was a notorious triad member ... played clownish villains in some of Chow's movies. Same guy?

I think you are talking about wong jing.

Martino
01-02-2004, 02:31 AM
I think you are talking about wong jing.

No, not Wong Jing ... it was Shing Fui-On.

Faithless
03-16-2004, 11:22 AM
This is wierd:

The Apple Daily newspaper reported Wednesday that Mui had been giving her mother HK$100,000 (US$12,800) of support each month. But the mother has received no money since Mui died, it quoted Mui's brother as saying.

Late Hong Kong star's mother launches estate battle (http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=2004&dt=0304&pub=Utusan_Express&sec=Entertainment&pg=en_05.htm)
HONG KONG March 3 - The mother of late Hong Kong pop diva Anita Mui is trying to claim her daughter's estate by challenging the will Mui is said to have made shortly before her death last year.

The beneficiary of Mui's will and the size of her estate have not been made public since the star died Dec 30 of lung complications caused by cervical cancer.

But Mui's mother, Tam Mei-kam, wants the High Court to throw out the ``purported will'' that executors for the estate say was made Dec 3, according to a writ filed last week. Hong Kong newspapers first reported on the court battle Wednesday.

Mui, who was 40, never married and had no children.

The filing from Mui's mother, who is in her 80s, says if she cannot have the entire estate, she would settle for a ``reasonable'' portion to be decided by the court.

The Apple Daily newspaper reported Wednesday that Mui had been giving her mother HK$100,000 (US$12,800) of support each month. But the mother has received no money since Mui died, it quoted Mui's brother as saying.

The Chinese-language newspaper also reported the mother was unhappy because she has been barred from entering Mui's home without permission from executors, while friends of the star can come and go as they please.

The executor of the will, HSBC International Trustee Ltd., did not immediately respond to a fax from The Associated Press seeking details of the case. Lawyers for Mui's mother did not immediately return phone calls.

Mui, who began singing at age 4 at a local amusement park to support her family, shot to fame in 1982 after winning a talent contest.

Mui appeared in many acclaimed films and won Taiwan's Golden Horse best actress award in 1987 for her role as a tormented ghost in the movie ``Rouge.'' - AP

Faithless
04-26-2005, 10:45 AM
Anita Mui biopic to start shooting (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-04/22/content_2864427.htm)
www.chinaview.cn 2005-04-22 14:59:59

BEIJING, April 22 -- A TV biopic about Hong Kong pop legend Anita Mui is going to begin shooting on September 1st.

The producer is reported to have invested about 15 million yuan or over 1.8 million US into the TV drama that presents the life of this late singer.

The thirty-episode TV drama will start with Anita's story from her last concert at Hong Kong Coliseum in 2003.

The main part of the series talks about her career, some of her intimate relationships and her charity contributions.

The actress chosen to play Anita will be chosen from a pool of candidates on a show, in which Anita's mother and brother are expected to be judges.

Martino
04-26-2005, 10:54 AM
Anita Mui biopic to start shooting (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-04/22/content_2864427.htm)

I wonder who they'll cast to play Lesley, Grasshopper and co ...

SunWuKong
04-26-2005, 11:47 AM
Anita Mui biopic to start shooting (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-04/22/content_2864427.htm)

i have mixed feelings about this. because i think it could either turn out to be really good or it could turn out to incorporate many aspects of your average Chinese TV drama series and would therefore suck (but at the same time be addicting...).