stronger attraction to aggresive men

[kasia]

Women Just Love Violent Men
Mike Tyson would click his fingers at one of the gorgeous young women in the queue, and she would be the one honoured with his bed for the night. The others were the losers.

When Ruby Wax interviewed OJ Simpson, many months after his trial for murder, she was astonished that this man had so many young women at his feet. They would phone him up. They would come up to him in the street. They would date him and bed him.

The most appalling killers in the USA, the serial killers, the ones who cut, carve, rape and kill, EACH receive some 500 letters every year from women 'expressing an interest' in developing some kind of intimate relationship with them according to the FBI.

What is it about these men that SOME women find so attractive?

There was a recent programme on TV (and I can't remember the name or the Channel) that looked at the criminal world of London's East End as it was in the 50's and 60's. The film footage and the photographs were mostly black and white and the programme focused on the arch villains, their cronies and their women.

And their women were gorgeous, without exception.

What is it about these men that allows them to attract such gorgeous women?

The answer is simple.

CHOICE

Such men can choose out of the large population of women that seeks their attention. They do not have to choose the less attractive women. They can have the pick of the bunch.

Why is it that the arrogant, loud-mouthed, extraverted, muscular, boundary-breaking men in the nightclubs get so much female attention? Why do those rock music stars who perform aggressively and rudely find queues of wide-eyed female groupies waiting for them outside the theatres? Why does the delinquent youth have so many admirers - of both genders?

We've all seen these things.

NO WONDER SO MANY MEN ARE VIOLENT!

They are applauded for it, loved for it, sought after because of it, adored for it.

BY WOMEN!

Not by all women, of course. Not by most women. But by a significant number of women. And that is enough.

Imagine that you are a Mike Tyson type. You do what you do, and aggression and violence are a large part of what you do. And what happens? Women flock to you. Men bow down to you. Your every move is encouraged, applauded and endorsed. That is your world. That is your environment. That is your audience. You don't watch Saints on Sunday. You don't listen to Praise Be To The Lord Of Peace. That is not your world. Such things do not impinge on you at all. Therefore ...

THEY DO NOT EXIST.

What everything around you teaches you, is that being macho and being aggressive is applauded by many. And it brings to you very many goodies.

Your behaviour is encouraged, endorsed and rewarded.

And, just as for Margaret Thatcher, people keep voting for you. And so, of course, you continue doing what you do!

And while SCORES of women throw themselves into your bed and tell you that you are everything that they have ever desired, you will continue to be as you are.

Particularly, one imagines, if you're also not very bright, and/or, you simply don't have much else to offer.

Further, men, statistically speaking, will drift toward being whatever it is that women find attractive. And they will do so from an early age. Their hormones and sexual urges will drive them that way. And as they see the women flocking to the 'imposing' men, the leaders, the aggressors, the macho and the law breakers, so they will try to emulate them. Men will seek to become more like them. They too want the prize of women seeking them out.

So, of course it is true that women promote violence. They seek out men who promulgate it.

Not all women, but enough of them to count.

And until women and feminists recognise the female's own contribution to the male's propensity to aggress, we do not have much hope of reducing aggression!

Perhaps, therefore, instead of simply blaming men for their propensity toward violence, one might take notice of the fact that significant numbers of women encourage it, and get turned on by it.

If all women were to find gentle men attractive then that's what nearly all men would become.

If women mostly shunned violent men instead of seeking them out, the world would be a better place.

But, of course, this is yet another area where women shirk out of any responsibility for the world in which they live. And the very thought that women might have anything to do with affecting the level of men's violence cannot even be openly discussed.

Feminist hysteria, disinformation and intimidation all ensure that women in this society are held responsible for very few of the many negative things that they, themselves, cause to happen.

"There are a lot of times — and I have seen this with my own eyes in London — where women have tried to force themselves on him, checking into his hotel trying to compromise him," Frank Warren said today while announcing that Mike Tyson will fight Lou Savarese on June 24 at the 52,000-seat Hampden Park soccer stadium in Glasgow, Scotland. NBD 19/05/00

[mr. x]

two words, Scott Peterson

guy got letters too, course one was from a woman who killed her husband so i guess they'd be right for each other

anyway i can understand why some women would but i duno why gorgeous ones go for em. guess that says more about them though than their looks. and these guys get PR (even if its terrible). whereas nice average joes dont. the way of the world

[VV o n g B a]

maybe they think if they can tame the badboy that'd be the ultimate conquest? but the author doesn't mention anything about why women might choose to go for these guys and instead just blames them for doing it. wrong approach if he wants to convince women to start changing who they're attracted to instead of just writing him off as a reactionary.

[kasia]

maybe they think if they can tame the badboy that'd be the ultimate conquest? but the author doesn't mention anything about why women might choose to go for these guys and instead just blames them for doing it. wrong approach if he wants to convince women to start changing who they're attracted to instead of just writing him off as a reactionary.

i just thought the female members could discuss the validity of the article's points. whether it is truly the case that we are more attracted to aggressive men.

[rice cracker]

Oh, I can see being attracted to more assertive men, but violent men? No, no thank you at all. I think as far as Mike Tyson and OJ go, it may be more of a celebrity attraction? I think this article is aggrandizing the problem. I mean, of course macho guys get attention, but isn't it a small amount of women that are writing letters to serial killers? Well, I guess none of my friends would tell me if they were, but I've never heard of anyone near my social sphere doing such a thing.

[VV o n g B a]

i just thought the female members could discuss the validity of the article's points. whether it is truly the case that we are more attracted to aggressive men.
oopsy. *butts OUT of the women's section for awhile*

[applehead]

why does aggressiveness equate to violence??
i like aggressive men, yes.
but violent?
comparing rock stars and serial killer?

And until women and feminists recognise the female's own contribution to the male's propensity to aggress, we do not have much hope of reducing aggression!

Perhaps, therefore, instead of simply blaming men for their propensity toward violence, one might take notice of the fact that significant numbers of women encourage it, and get turned on by it.

If all women were to find gentle men attractive then that's what nearly all men would become.

If women mostly shunned violent men instead of seeking them out, the world would be a better place.

But, of course, this is yet another area where women shirk out of any responsibility for the world in which they live. And the very thought that women might have anything to do with affecting the level of men's violence cannot even be openly discussed.

Feminist hysteria, disinformation and intimidation all ensure that women in this society are held responsible for very few of the many negative things that they, themselves, cause to happen.

so it's our fault that men committ crimes
and resort to violence?
who wrote this crock of shit?

[John0101]

This article assumes that there is only one type of females and that they are all generic. I do not think this is true. Instead, that article reforces female/male stereotypes and gender roles.

This article (where's the source?) can be disproven by a closer look at personal interrelational relationships, because not all females are attracted to violent or the "manly" man.

[Hiroshi2]

Imagine that you are a Mike Tyson type. You do what you do, and aggression and violence are a large part of what you do. And what happens? Women flock to you. Men bow down to you. Your every move is encouraged, applauded and endorsed. That is your world. That is your environment. That is your audience. You don't watch Saints on Sunday. You don't listen to Praise Be To The Lord Of Peace. That is not your world. Such things do not impinge on you at all. Therefore ...



That's the type of dude I want to fight. I can't stand arrogance and I love to show up the guys who think they're tough shit.

[tapestrybabe]

didnt we have a thread about effeminate men??
a question being posed if females are attracted to such guys...
from what i recall... most of the females responded that they were NOT attracted to such guys... that they preferred more of the tough masculine type...

anyways, when i think of all the guys i've been attracted too...
i'm one of the few whose actually attracted to effeminate men...
altho someone whose more attracted to the tough, more masculine, macho types... that doesnt equivalate someone whose attracted to someone whose violent...

and i suppose someone who does happen to end up in such an abusive relationship...
its not fair to blame such women for mens behavior...
its not fair to put more focus on the action of the victim
than on the one whose doing the abusing...

[moJo]

Oh, I can see being attracted to more assertive men, but violent men? No, no thank you at all. I think as far as Mike Tyson and OJ go, it may be more of a celebrity attraction? I think this article is aggrandizing the problem. I mean, of course macho guys get attention, but isn't it a small amount of women that are writing letters to serial killers? Well, I guess none of my friends would tell me if they were, but I've never heard of anyone near my social sphere doing such a thing.
Ditto here. Assertive, and even aggressive, is different than violent. I would never want to fear my S.O. And no thanks on the macho men, either. He can go flex (literally and figuratively) for some other chick.

[teaz0r]

i don't like violent men -at- all.

at any first signs of violence i just bail the fuck out.
doesn't have to be towards me either. like if i'm with
a guy and he can't solve problems without using his
fists then i'm automatically turned off.

i do like aggressive men, but well within boundaries.
agressive to get ahead. determined. knows what he
wants. is nice. i like them agressive in bed too.

i like bad boys. but not in the sense that he's a murderer
and was out on a killing spree, but more like... i dunno
bad nice boys?

but i sorta see how this article came about? i mean didn't
ted bundy and charles manson and that other killer guy...
that they made a movie about, starring mira sorvino..
son of summer? summer of sam? something ... like didn't
does serial killers have major girls after them? like i dunno
why there are girls after them? media sorta glamourizes it
too, movies like natural born killers with woody harrelson in
it, and Kalifornia, with brad pitt. i mean these actors are all
hunky n' stuff... and so girls wet their panties over them?

i dunno. sumthing like that.

[kasia]

way back when, i used to like violent guys. not violent towards me, but towards other people. i kinda liked the fact that they were tough. i think i was 13 or so back then. anyhow.

there sometimes is a part of me that is drawn to problem guys. i have a social worker personality, so sometimes...it's like taking on a project. but that gets tiring after a while, b/c you want someone who can also take care of you.

i don't know who wrote the article - i just pulled it off the web. it seems a little extreme. but a lot of you have admitted that you're attracted to aggressive men - but not violent men. where is the line drawn?

example. one of my exes used to get really pissed off when we would be going somewhere and he'd get lost. he'd cuss really loudly, get really frustrated, and punch the seat. however, he never directed any of it towards me. is that aggressive or violent behavior? (regardless of how it's categorized, i hated it and secretly started seeing him as a wuss.)

[moJo]

i don't know who wrote the article - i just pulled it off the web. it seems a little extreme. but a lot of you have admitted that you're attracted to aggressive men - but not violent men. where is the line drawn?
hmm...verbal assertion, physical assertion --> an indication that he has a backbone, that he won't be a doormat. this i like.
example. one of my exes used to get really pissed off when we would be going somewhere and he'd get lost. he'd cuss really loudly, get really frustrated, and punch the seat. however, he never directed any of it towards me. is that aggressive or violent behavior? (regardless of how it's categorized, i hated it and secretly started seeing him as a wuss.)
imo, that's violent behavior. and that's a temper problem, too, which is another issue.

[kasia]

hmm...verbal assertion, physical assertion --> an indication that he has a backbone, that he won't be a doormat. this i like.

i think that's pretty much it. isn't it strange how this is so much more important to us than it is to guys? i think having a backbone is maybe one of the top 5 must-haves for a guy to be bf material, right? somehow i don't think it's the same for guys when they're seeking gfs. why is that?

[spice]

it all goes back to darwin and the survival of the species. even in nature, it's the more aggressive and flamboyant males that get all the female attention. even thouhg humans can try to rationalize things, we are still driven by nature...

[applehead]

way back when, i used to like violent guys. not violent towards me, but towards other people. i kinda liked the fact that they were tough. i think i was 13 or so back then. anyhow.

there sometimes is a part of me that is drawn to problem guys. i have a social worker personality, so sometimes...it's like taking on a project. but that gets tiring after a while, b/c you want someone who can also take care of you.

i don't know who wrote the article - i just pulled it off the web. it seems a little extreme. but a lot of you have admitted that you're attracted to aggressive men - but not violent men. where is the line drawn?

example. one of my exes used to get really pissed off when we would be going somewhere and he'd get lost. he'd cuss really loudly, get really frustrated, and punch the seat. however, he never directed any of it towards me. is that aggressive or violent behavior? (regardless of how it's categorized, i hated it and secretly started seeing him as a wuss.)

that is definitely violent behavior.
i mean, i'd feel unsafe aroudn him.
and i can understand why you would
secretly started viewing him as a wuss.
it's not a very manly behavior.
more like a temper tantrum to me.

well, aggressive, more like a take charge attitude
is what i prefer.
i'm not comfortable with men who use physical force
or bad language near me.

[moJo]

i think that's pretty much it. isn't it strange how this is so much more important to us than it is to guys? i think having a backbone is maybe one of the top 5 must-haves for a guy to be bf material, right? somehow i don't think it's the same for guys when they're seeking gfs. why is that?
well, it kinda gets into the discussion about how we are products of our environment and society, at least to some extent. the guys who don't want assertive (not extreme, not violent, etc) women might've fallen into the rigid gender-roles trap. that's my guess...

[applehead]

it all goes back to darwin and the survival of the species. even in nature, it's the more aggressive and flamboyant males that get all the female attention. even thouhg humans can try to rationalize things, we are still driven by nature...

yeah like how the monkey with
the reddest butt gets all the chicka monkeys.

or something...

[tapestrybabe]

hmm...verbal assertion, physical assertion --> an indication that he has a backbone, that he won't be a doormat. this i like.
hey,
i maybe quiet and all that...
but those are the type of qualities i pride in *MYSELF* also...
i mean, fuck that if i allow others to walk over me...
NO WAY...
i'm NOT a doormat either...

and i would like to have a man...
to like this too about me...

[spice]

the alpha males always rule the pack. displays of strength and aggression signal higher levels of testosterone and sexual virility. females are naturally attracted to this for mating purposes. despite evolution, we are all still animals. grrrrrr.......

[moJo]

hey,
i maybe quiet and all that...
but those are the type of qualities i pride in *MYSELF* also...
i mean, fuck that if i allow others to walk over me...
NO WAY...
i'm NOT a doormat either...

and i would like to have a man...
to like this too about me...
:confused: yes, i feel like i have those qualities too. i mean, why expect that of someone if you don't have it, too? (at least in this case.) but...that wasn't the question that kasie asked. she asked where the line was drawn between assertive/aggressive and violent men, and that was my example of assertive. sorry, am i missing something...

[tapestrybabe]

:confused: yes, i feel like i have those qualities too. i mean, why expect that of someone if you don't have it, too? (at least in this case.) but...that wasn't the question that kasie asked. she asked where the line was drawn between assertive/aggressive and violent men, and that was my example of assertive. sorry, am i missing something...
NO...
your not missing something...
i didnt mean to sounds like i was dissing your answer...
i guess i kinda got a little overly excited... i dunno...

but yeah, we can talk about the qualities we like in a man...
and yeah... i would like to believe... having a backbone, being not seen as a doormat... are qualities that guys like in women too...

[krome]

At its most basic reptilian brain core level, male s*xual attractiveness, or

[b]Male "Hotness" = Looks + Masculinity (in varying proportions)

Hence, an ugly but macho stud can be hot, just like an effeminate pretty-boy, or other combos in between. Hence, OJ will never be short of groupies - as a black jock star - he is permanently off the charts in masculinity and thus hotness. Notice character, personality, etc don't factor into this biological evolutionary equation for pure s*xual attraction. If anything, aggressive behavior only translates into aggressive s*x in bed in the fertile minds of women.

Now, jaded women who have been screwed over repeatedly by such "bad boys" may eventually settle for "Mr. Nice Guy" to treat them right (& take care of her & kids), but only as a secondary last resort. 3rd round draft pick. Yes, omega male "wimps" finish last.[/broad generalization (pun intended :wink:)]

[Chinese Tourist]

assertiveness aggression violence = testosterone. Belief in the worthiness if not superiority of one's self. Selfish and determined and unafraid to fight for what is theirs.

[Cipherous]

lets be realistic here,

nice guys do finish last. this is true in business, sports, social circles and other faucets of life. the only way nice guys finish first is due to sympathy.

If you wanna get ahead, you gotta assertive and aggressive. If you really want to compete with the big dogs, you gotta be ruthless.

I can see why girls would find aggression and assertiveness attractive. Those qualities are essential if you want go anyway in today's world.

[amietron]

this is true in business, sports, social circles and other faucets of life.
facets!

[krome]

Also, "nice guy" & "bad boy" can be debatable, somewhat misleading labels.

What's nice? Mannered, polite, yes man, PC, opinionless, spineless, *ss-kisser, chivalrous (or is that s*xist?), obedient, etc? And can't this person be a "bad boy" too?

What's a bad boy? Blunt, honest, str8, ballsy, confident, real, aggressive, uncontrollabe, etc? And can't this type of person be "nice" too?

Now, which one sounds more attractive to you, ladies? But I mean, let's get accurate with our definitions here first.

[rice cracker]

Well, there's a big difference between a normally aggressive guy and serial killers that certain kinds of women are attracted to.

[amietron]

because they're not ... pussies. =O

or you don't perceive them to be.

[rice cracker]

^ You should stick to hanging out with girls then. Women are a different story ;)

[ChairmanMah]

Sometimes some women tend to go for bad guys because they think it's a challenge to change them which is TOTALLY wrong in so many ways.

If you go out with someone you should accept the way this person is and try not to change them at all. I mean... positive change is good - there's always room for improvement. However, a complete 180 should be out of the question. If you can't hang, you should most likely leave the man. Why lie to kick it?

I wouldn't consider a misogynistic or chauvinistic man (who happens to be handsome) a good catch.

I noticed that in today's society, we focus on negativity. When you do something good... nobody remembers; when you do something bad... nobody forgets!
HI DILUTEDWATER :smile:

it's human nature that the bad things are remembered so we wont do them again. Problem is, if you want to forget them, you can't.

[dragonlord]

:confused: yes, i feel like i have those qualities too. i mean, why expect that of someone if you don't have it, too? (at least in this case.) but...that wasn't the question that kasie asked. she asked where the line was drawn between assertive/aggressive and violent men, and that was my example of assertive. sorry, am i missing something...

<Smacks Mojo upside her head with a club, and drags her by her hair into the "Dragon's Den">

[Cipherous]

aggression=power and control.

girls love to be told what to do.

true,

they also love having a rubber ball in their mouth while you whip them and pull their hair. Keep in mind that you're wearing a black leather mask with a zipper as a mouth.

Now thats aggression and control!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cipherous]

Well, there's a big difference between a normally aggressive guy and serial killers that certain kinds of women are attracted to.

would you still date Ichiro if he was a serial killer?

"Rice Cracker...I am innocent Baaaaaaby!"

http://money.cnn.com/2001/11/23/news/column_sportsbiz/cap_ichiro.jpg

[ChairmanMah]

true,

they also love having a rubber ball in their mouth while you whip them and while you wear a black leather mask with a zipper as a mouth.

Now thats aggression and control.

someone's been watching too much pulp fiction :eek:

[Cipherous]

someone's been watching too much pulp fiction :eek:

actually the inspiration was from 8mm. Theres a guy with a leather mask in pulp fiction?

[shy]

lets be realistic here,

nice guys do finish last. this is true in business, sports, social circles and other faucets of life. the only way nice guys finish first is due to sympathy.

If you wanna get ahead, you gotta assertive and aggressive. If you really want to compete with the big dogs, you gotta be ruthless.

I can see why girls would find aggression and assertiveness attractive. Those qualities are essential if you want go anyway in today's world.

hmm... i think this expression, 'nice guys finish last' would truly depend on one's definition of success in life, would it not?

for example, you are taking about business. and getting to the top. and while this is important to some guys, it's not important to all guys. and ironicially, those that become ruthless bull dogs, end up spending so much time at work, their family life falls appart. so in the end, do they really win?

all my guy friends, to me, are very nice guys. i mean that... people who meet them, my family, my other friends... they all say the same thing. and none of them are the least bit unhappy of where they are in life. i see them all as winners. even if they aren't making tons of money... they have a home, lots of material stuff, nice cars... but more importantly, they all have great relationships and great families.

is that finishing last?

i don't think so.

so i often have to question such an expression. and the first thing i ask a person is, "well, when you say that, what is your definition of success?"

[Fireblade]

so in other words... all the guys are saying that in order to get the girl, you have to adopt certain forms of aggression, whereas the women are saying that so long as you aren't some kind of wuss, you're fine?

[shy]

so in other words... all the guys are saying that in order to get the girl, you have to adopt certain forms of aggression, whereas the women are saying that so long as you aren't some kind of wuss, you're fine?

ahh... the mysterious between a man and a woman continues. :D

[mr. x]

women are fickle thats all ill say.

like in that comic "the duplex" Eno's like "women talk about how they want some sensitive guy and then they leave you for some tatooed biker"

men are like food to them

sometimes your in the mood for italian, sometimes for french, sometimes spicy, sometimes sweet. and then they settle down when they realize they are not getting any younger

but what the hell do i know

[artsfartsyjanet]

i don't like aggressive men... I like assertive men. I suppose aggression is a spectrum. I like a guy who can defend and uplift himself constructively. It shows character. Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee, Mike Tyson and ex (name?), and couples i knew who aren't celebrities.... I think the reason why a lot of women like aggressive guys is because of the maladaptive way they handle the once-so-happy relationship. Guys like Tommy Lee and Mike Tyson are controlling dominant people, and the women they abused may have learned to live under someone's control and can't get or don't see the need to help themselves out of the cycle.

[shy]

women are fickle thats all ill say.

like in that comic "the duplex" Eno's like "women talk about how they want some sensitive guy and then they leave you for some tatooed biker"

men are like food to them

sometimes your in the mood for italian, sometimes for french, sometimes spicy, sometimes sweet. and then they settle down when they realize they are not getting any younger

but what the hell do i know

girls are fickle. women know what they want. ;)

[mr. x]

thing is, about guys like tommy lee, he was an abusive asshole and lots of people would love to sock him one. but he's also got a big dick

[shy]

thing is, about guys like tommy lee, he was an abusive asshole and lots of people would love to sock him one. but he's also got a big dick

ugh. the thought of tommy lee's pee-pee makes me want to hurl. :frown:

[mr. x]

ugh. the thought of tommy lee's pee-pee makes me want to hurl. :frown:

yah, dudes probly got "a hundred bucks" tatooed on it (so his wife can blow a hundred bucks at home)

i despise the guy too but on a superficial level there will always be women who love that sorta shit

[kasia]

i despise the guy too but on a superficial level there will always be women who love that sorta shit


there will be superficial women who will love what?

[applehead]

http://money.cnn.com/2001/11/23/news/column_sportsbiz/cap_ichiro.jpg[/QUOTE]


who is that?
he looks so much like one of our mods.

[TB4000]

there will be superficial women who will love what?


The kind of dude that treats a girl like crap, yet ironically gets laid to the point of stupidity.....if ever there was a reason to coin the phrase "go figure", that would be a time to.

[mr. x]

there will be superficial women who will love what?

what TB4000 said

basically there will always be women who buy into image or money or status. just as these serial killer types get letters.

take kobe or that guy from The White Stripes

kobe is a decent looking guy but man, look what he's doing behind his wife's back. but even if the rape did take place plenty of girls out there would still love to tap his ass

and the dude from the White Stripes? i just...dont...SEE IT. i mean really why am i supposed to care if he effs his sister? the guy looks like johnny depp's ugly twin. but u know what? he's a rock star. and women would love to tap his ass cuz it's like fucking with fame

[Emperor_Mike]

I'm aggressive. At times I feel like I want to take over a small country.

[krome]

Look man, I don't care how many blondes OJ guts up, 99% of women would still bang him over Mr. Rogers any day. Let's get real here mofos!

[teaz0r]

Look man, I don't care how many blondes OJ guts up, 99% of women would still bang him over Mr. Rogers any day. Let's get real here mofos!
well yeah. cuz mr. rogers is dead.
necrophiliac would like mr. rogers.

[krome]

^^%%^#! Why you have to go and ruin my analogy like that! :mad: :biggrin:

We all know my point. Don't even try to disagree with it!

[teaz0r]

^^%%^#! Why you have to go and ruin my analogy like that! :mad: :biggrin:

We all know my point. Don't even try to disagree with it!

nuh uh. i didn't ruin it. most chicks
with electra complexes would take
mr. rogers over oj.

look at anna nicole smith.her hubby
looks more like mr rogers than oj.

if mr rogers was still alive, i'd use
that sweater of his to tie up his
hands to the bed post and ride
him till he can't sing that stupid
neighbourhood song anymore.

[blkazngirl]

I think deep down inside all women like alittle "Bad-boy" sometimes. With the hopes that we can change them. The same goes for guys that like that nasty girl. But it's the ones that "stay" with these people and allow them to abuse them. That's a big no, no in my book.

[krome]

Uh, what's an "electra complex?"

And Anna only hooked up with that crusty billionaire geezer on his deathbed to worm into his will. I seriously doubt she ever did more than kiss him. Or, is she married again to another rich fart? I haven't read "White Trash Times" lately... :biggrin:

[Hiroshi2]

Uh, what's an "electra complex?"






Women who are sexually attracted to their father.


@ blkazngirl:


Anyway, I don't know about most other guys, but I'm not attracted to a "nasty girl". Not in terms of actually wanting a relationship with. I don't know, maybe they're just not "my type" or whatever, but I can't deal with bad attitude all the time.

[applehead]

Look man, I don't care how many blondes OJ guts up, 99% of women would still bang him over Mr. Rogers any day. Let's get real here mofos!

um. i choose neither and so would most women.

[applehead]

Also, "nice guy" & "bad boy" can be debatable, somewhat misleading labels.

What's nice? Mannered, polite, yes man, PC, opinionless, spineless, *ss-kisser, chivalrous (or is that s*xist?), obedient, etc? And can't this person be a "bad boy" too?

What's a bad boy? Blunt, honest, str8, ballsy, confident, real, aggressive, uncontrollabe, etc? And can't this type of person be "nice" too?

Now, which one sounds more attractive to you, ladies? But I mean, let's get accurate with our definitions here first.

the article deals with overly aggressive men
who are in jail for their violent behaviour.
so we're talking about violent and aggressive behaviour
and not just aggressive behavior.
did you even read the article?

[rice cracker]

um. i choose neither and so would most women.

No kidding. They are both unacceptable. And Mr. Rogers is dead.

Hint: Men, don't try to make decisions from your perception of a woman's point of view.

[krome]

um. i choose neither and so would most women.

Um, not according to the article posted at the beginning of this thread, and I REquote:
When Ruby Wax interviewed OJ Simpson, many months after his trial for murder, she was astonished that this man had so many young women at his feet. They would phone him up. They would come up to him in the street. They would date him and bed him.

I sure never heard stories like that about Mr. Rogers... :biggrin:

[rice cracker]

Krome, the blurb you've quoted is talking about a celebrity and his followers, not 99.9% of the female population.

[krome]

But that's the specific example I cited. And you 2 said no women would want him (even with his celeb status). Clearly, you are wrong in that. I mean, that was the whole point of this very thread - was it not? That even wife-killa OJ has groupies - and maybe even more than before?

[rice cracker]

But that's the specific example I cited. And you 2 said no women would want him (even with his celeb status). Clearly, you are wrong in that. I mean, that was the whole point of this very thread - was it not? That even wife-killa OJ has groupies - and maybe even more than before?

I did not say that. And Applehead said "Most" women would choose neither, which is what I agreed with. Not "No woman."

[applehead]

But that's the specific example I cited.
And you 2 said no women would want him (even with his celeb status). Clearly, you are wrong in that.
rice cracker and i didn't say NO women.
we said most women, which is true based on this article, correct?
you're comparing, what, a couple of hundred women
who worship OJ to the millions of other women who don't.
I mean, that was the whole point of this very thread - was it not? That even wife-killa OJ has groupies - and maybe even more than before?
the point of this thread was not just to discuss
OJ's crazy groupies but to have a discussion about
women who are attracted to aggressive men.

[krome]

Ok, neither of us has stats on how many women would have s*x with OJ. Also, my original statement said that most women would choose OJ over Fred given a choice betwen THOSE 2.

But, let's rephrase the question:
OJ & Mr. Rogers both have similar celeb status
OJ is known to be highly aggressive (allegedly even murderously so)
So, who do you think gets MORE women who would like to sleep with him and why?

Based upon this article, I would conservatively estimate OJ gets 50X more groupies than Mr. Rodgers ever did (if any at all).

[deez nuts]

who wouldn't want to have sex with a heisman trophy winner?

[applehead]

i wish i can find a picture of a young mister rogers.
he was really handsome.

why would any woman in their right mind
sleep with someone who has criminal, even murderous, tendencies??
i don't get it.
you're comparing someone who was once arrested for murdering his wife/gf(??)
to someone who wasn't??
i mean, no smart woman would want to bed a alleged murderer.
where are you going with this?
i'm confused.

[deez nuts]

nfl superstar vs androgenous and asexual public tv kiddie show guy

[moJo]

Wouldn't a better comparison be Tommy Lee vs. John Mayer? At least they're both alive.

[deez nuts]

Wouldn't a better comparison be Tommy Lee vs. John Mayer? At least they're both alive.


oooh good one.

tommy lee: ===================D

john mayer: ===D

[applehead]

oooh good one.

tommy lee: ===================D

john mayer: ===D

tommmy lee is so sleazy
and john whines.
i can totally make him cry. hahahahahah

[krome]

^^^^^ Humans are animals and slaves to our hardwired evolutionary biology. It makes perfect sense to me. I think maybe you need to rethink your psychological assumptions to account for this phenomenom if it really confuses you so dearly. Nicole's body was barely cold yet before OJ hooked up with then 25-yo blonde Nicole clone, Christie Prody.
http://www.fatheadsweb.com/pix/c_prody.jpg

[moJo]

oooh good one.

tommy lee: ===================D

john mayer: ===D
hey! i LIKE John Mayer. And what is this about Tommy Lee and his =============D??? Did you boys all see his video or is this just a joke/rumor/myth?

[applehead]

^^^^^ Humans are animals and slaves to our hardwired evolutionary biology. It makes perfect sense to me. I think maybe you need to rethink your psychological assumptions to account for this phenomenom if it really confuses you so dearly. Nicole's body was barely cold yet before OJ hooked up with then 25-yo blonde Nicole clone, Christie Prody.
http://www.fatheadsweb.com/pix/c_prody.jpg

oh right, i forgot.
there's only two types of men in the world.
men like OJ and men like mr rogers.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[deez nuts]

hey! i LIKE John Mayer. And what is this about Tommy Lee and his =============D??? Did you boys all see his video or is this just a joke/rumor/myth?


i owned the video, not sure where it is, been lent out too many times. yes, it's that big.

i'm surprised poor pam wasn't impaled and kebab'ed by it with the tip of his dick sticking out of her mouth in some scenes kinda like a pig in an open pig roast.

[krome]

I've yet to see the Tommy video. What do you estimate his size is? 10"?

applehead - Well out of those extremes, the difference becomes very clear in which attracts more women. Guys like OJ are never short of adoring females, no matter what they do. Meanwhile, Mr. Rodgers spent most of his free time sitting around playing with hand puppets. OJ got farrrrrrrr more pull with women than Fred. End of story.

[moJo]

i owned the video, not sure where it is, been lent out too many times. yes, it's that big.

i'm surprised poor pam wasn't impaled and kebab'ed by it with the tip of his dick sticking out of her mouth in some scenes kinda like a pig in an open pig roast.
:eek: oy, i'm sorry i asked. too many details, man. :frown:

[deez nuts]

oh right, i forgot.
there's only two types of men in the world.
men like OJ and men like mr rogers.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


to give you ladies a man's perspective:

guys from puberty till the time they're ready to settle down will follow the OJ paradigm (minus the charge of first degree murder) ie. strong, virile, aggressive etc etc, and try and bang as many women as possible.

it's called testosterone. as you age the testosterone slowly drops, at a certain point, they start acting more like a rogers paradigm (minus the red cardigan sweater) i.e. laid back, understanding, sympathetic blah blah.

which is true cuz i'm an old guy and i've felt this sudden urge to buy cardigan sweaters as of late. this mister roger's phenom is referred to as "having one foot in the grave."


and yes krome, it was at least 10" easy.

[deez nuts]

:eek: oy, i'm sorry i asked. too many details, man. :frown:


you likey?

[applehead]

to give you ladies a man's perspective:

guys from puberty till the time they're ready to settle down will follow the OJ paradigm (minus the charge of first degree murder) ie. strong, virile, aggressive etc etc, and try and bang as many women as possible.

it's called testosterone. as you age the testosterone slowly drops, at a certain point, they start acting more like a rogers paradigm (minus the red cardigan sweater) i.e. laid back, understanding, sympathetic blah blah.

which is true cuz i'm an old guy and i've felt this sudden urge to buy cardigan sweaters as of late. this mister roger's phenom is referred to as "having one foot in the grave."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[tazadar]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Did you went to the dentist's office today and had too much laughing gas or something!

[shy]

The kind of dude that treats a girl like crap, yet ironically gets laid to the point of stupidity.....if ever there was a reason to coin the phrase "go figure", that would be a time to.

yes... but of course! humans are so diverse as far as their personalities. it's only natural to expect that there will always be pam andersons who want their tommy lee.

just like how there will always be guys who like their women to walk all over them like a doormat.

[shy]

But that's the specific example I cited. And you 2 said no women would want him (even with his celeb status). Clearly, you are wrong in that. I mean, that was the whole point of this very thread - was it not? That even wife-killa OJ has groupies - and maybe even more than before?

sorry... but i don't really understand what you're point is. are you trying to say that the majority of women will fall for an asshole over a nice guy? i read over your posts but i just want clarification so i can get exactly what you are saying.

i don't know about stats, btw. i mean, that article targeted specific women in specific information. as a journalist, he/she would be pretty stupid if he/she didn't look for stories that fit his research.

as for stats, i have to question about that as well. most women do not go looking for violent relationships. stats often show the percentage AFTER the women have been found IN the abusive relationship and does not nor can not truly give a direct answer to whether or not these women were looking for it or not.h

[mr. x]

aright we need to bring this full circle

the issue of course is for guys like serial killers (even rapists) who get super play. and of course these women are the exception not the rule. so from a psychological perspective what makes em do it? is it the fame? is it the danger? do they wanna believe the man is innocent?

course other than saying "she's damn crazy" i spose there isnt much we can do to get in their heads....

[shy]

Ok, neither of us has stats on how many women would have s*x with OJ. Also, my original statement said that most women would choose OJ over Fred given a choice betwen THOSE 2.

But, let's rephrase the question:
OJ & Mr. Rogers both have similar celeb status
OJ is known to be highly aggressive (allegedly even murderously so)
So, who do you think gets MORE women who would like to sleep with him and why?

Based upon this article, I would conservatively estimate OJ gets 50X more groupies than Mr. Rodgers ever did (if any at all).

sorry... but i find this comparison silly.

you've totally discounted so many other variables. for one... the status of either's careers are comparible. age difference also takes into account. and the fact that many of us symbolize mr. rogers as a childhood role model. for many woman, this is just hard to see as sexual. it's got nothing to do with good boy v.s. bad boy.

i simply can not find the relevance of this comparison to the main topic of this thread.

[shy]

Wouldn't a better comparison be Tommy Lee vs. John Mayer? At least they're both alive.

woohoo! john mayer, baby! :)