Buying Into Stereotypes

[ChinaLama]

What are the most common stereotypes Asian Americans buy into about other Asian Americans (or themselves?) off the top of my head, I'd say:

1. Asians are smart (the famous model minority myth)
2. Asian parents are hard-asses.
3. Asians are hard workers but poor communicators or lack "social skills."
4. Asians are shallow/ materialistic.
5. Asian MEN are more sexist.
6. Asians are more racist.

It sometimes pisses me off how much we-- including me -- buy into these stereotypes. Probably what prompted me to get pissed at this is the # of posts on LJ Asian American communities on #2 and #4. A lot of people also seem to buy into #3 very heavily, basically justifying the glass ceiling of Asian Americans in the workplace as a result of a "culture" where Asians are more likely to "defer to authority" or don't speak English well.

[Sledge]

I've been thinking about this stuff a lot recently, and it's really given me some trouble deciding which philosophical outlook to adopt. I oppose completely, as always, using those stereotypes to judge people that I don't know. But I don't think I could honestly say that many of those stereotypes are true in a significant percentage of the Asian people I know.

For instance, my friend is complaining to me about how her parents and her parents' friends keep telling her that getting accepted early to Tufts is just a waste of money and time; for $40k a year, they say, she should at least be attending Harvard. Other Asian friends of mine have mentioned similar things to me in the past; I haven't heard one complaint from any of my many non-Asian friends.

Of course, I can't make assumptions from such a limited sample. This isn't a study and I won't pretend it's one. But I can understand Asians who buy into those stereotypes, even if I don't embrace them myself.

I don't really know how to feel about it.

[Blue dice]

What
1. Asians are smart (the famous model minority myth)

Asians may be more hardworking and educated from an American standpoint but that doesn't mean we're smarter. I think that's where the misunderstanding lies..

2. Asian parents are hard-asses.

Well, my parents were hard on me up until after junior year in high school where they stopped giving a damn either way. My aunt was really hard on my cousin growing up but adopted a total laissez faire attitude when it came to his younger brother. It differs I suppose, i've seen some hardass stereotypical right wing conservative religious white families who are just as stringent.

3. Asians are hard workers but poor communicators or lack "social skills."

Mostly nonsense.

4. Asians are shallow/ materialistic.

No more materialistic than anyone else in a capitalist society.

5. Asian MEN are more sexist.

Complete bullshit egged on by a willing u.s. media and asians who have their own agenda in believing it.

6. Asians are more racist.

Bullshit as well, it's easier for some people to buffer their own racism by pointing fingers and claiming other ethnicites are just as or more racist than they are.

[ChinaLama]

ok just so i don't sound too santimonious-- here's another one:

All Asian kids between the age of 10-20 have watched dbz at some point in their lives. 90% of them are or were fans. :D

[tapestrybabe]

when it comes to asians perceived as smart... thats not always the case... if your perceived as an asian immigrant... sometimes you can be perceived as a total dumb ass that needs to take special ed class or something... i was quiet during my high school years... lots of students thought that i was an ESL student... assuming i didnt speak english... and while ESL it stands for English As a Second Language... ppl often referred it to standing for... Extra Slow Learners...

[>:^|]

when it comes to asians perceived as smart... thats not always the case...

You know, I have had the same experience and have not typically found that Whites assume Asians will be smart. Often I have found that some Whites will immediately assume that I am uneducated or just not very smart. In one class, a professor handed back our first papers. He praised mine greatly and then handed it to a White boy. After an exam was graded, he came up to me and asked, "Where did you come from? I've noticed that you do very well."

But I have noticed that some Asians, especially my parents' friends, will always assume the best of me. For example, if they hear I am working somewhere, they will assume I have the most prestigious job there. :rolleyes:

[teaz0r]

we are demure oriental blossoms ready to cook and clean!

[BeTheReds]

ok just so i don't sound too santimonious-- here's another one:

All Asian kids between the age of 10-20 have watched dbz at some point in their lives. 90% of them are or were fans. :D


But isn't that true?

Hahaha.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

But isn't that true?

Hahaha.

Dragonball Z is complete garbage. I'm referring to not only the TV series or movies but also the video games. Disgrace to fighting games I swear.

P.S. Anyways nowadays thanks to Toonami, most kids growing up nowadays, Asian or not, will probably watch more than a few episodes of DBZ. If they are smart or worth anything at all in this society they'll realize how shitty it is and turn it off..but...I digress :biggrin:

[hooligan]

Dragonball Z is complete garbage. I'm referring to not only the TV series or movies but also the video games. Disgrace to fighting games I swear.

P.S. Anyways nowadays thanks to Toonami, most kids growing up nowadays, Asian or not, will probably watch more than a few episodes of DBZ. If they are smart or worth anything at all in this society they'll realize how shitty it is and turn it off..but...I digress :biggrin:
i'm not fond of dbz

[Fireblade]

This is all based on perception. Everyone knows all of this isn't true. It only applies to certain people who "fit" a sterotype.

Bleh, I know I'm don't fit a sterotype. I'm not sexist. I suck in terms of grade, therefore I'm not smart. I'm farily lazy. I'm not materialistic or shallow. The only thing that probably does fit me, is that I can't communicate very well. But I blame that on my own shortcomings, and not because of my ethnicity. But my parents were hard-asses. Now they just kinda let me do my own thing.

[rice cracker]

I'm not smart, I suck at math, I hate DBZ, and I have wonderful social skills. I should give myself a pat on the back for doing my part to fight stereotypes.

Of course, it could all be the white genes ;)

[ChinaLama]

well, also what are *other* stereotypes we buy into about ourselves? no need to just focus on what i wrote since i don't fit the smart stereotype very well. ;)

and how can so many of you be dbz haters? tsk tsk. *sigh*

[Napoleon Chynamite]

and how can so many of you be dbz haters? tsk tsk. *sigh*

It's easy to hate something that sucks so badly.

[ChinaLama]

thanks to anne. How could I forget this one? "All Asians play a musical instrument." Well, I don't, so does that make me white? (since I can't be black-- the stereotype that all blacks play bass guitar ;))

[tapestrybabe]

and how can so many of you be dbz haters? tsk tsk. *sigh*
i cant even be a hater of dbz...
since i'm not even familiar with dbz in the first place...

[krome]

5. I find Gen X Asian men are too nice, apologetic, whipped pushovers, if anything...

And let's not even get into a cross-cultural comparison of s*xism. Well, I will post some stuff up later...showing how utterly ridiculous the "uniquely s*xist Asian man" really is...address a lot of points in ways people didn't even think about...cuz most people don't even think for themselves...

[Fireblade]

thanks to anne. How could I forget this one? "All Asians play a musical instrument." Well, I don't, so does that make me white? (since I can't be black-- the stereotype that all blacks play bass guitar ;))

Wha?!!! Who came up with that sterotype? It's supposed to CLASSICAL musical instruments. Stuff like drums and guitars don't go in the mix. And most asian parents perfer you play one of the following:

Piano
Violin
Cello
Flute
Clairent

stuff like trumpets isn't appreiciated. Believe me I know. My parents also told me not to blow the horn so friggin loud. hahaha.

:smile:

[ChinaLama]

my bad, FB. Classical, preferably piano or violin or cello. happy? ;)

[>:^|]

Classical, preferably piano or violin or cello. happy? ;)

There once was a dude named ChinaLama
Who got into a stereotype-a-rama
Like a nice Asian fellow
He ate rice and played cello
And always would obey his mamma.

I've decided to respond only in limerick form from now on. I'm also in hiding from CL.

[hooligan]

1. Asians are smart (the famous model minority myth)
2. Asian parents are hard-asses.
3. Asians are hard workers but poor communicators or lack "social skills."
4. Asians are shallow/ materialistic.
5. Asian MEN are more sexist.
6. Asians are more racist.
my ex-roommate swears by #1. he says that instead of defeating the stereotype, we need to embrace it and use it as a marker to show how far we've come. i got into a lot of arguments with him discussing the state of asian america.

#2 and #3 are kind of applicable to my own life, but i know that it doesn't apply to everyone.

#4 was something i used to believe back in high school and i sort of still believe. a lot of APIAs are well way of brands and which brands mean quality. the shallowness could just be symptom of being strapped for cash as my family was back in the day. we got by with just the bare necessities and sometimes we just had to be cheap to get on by.

#5 ...about as sexist as other men and in regards to #6 just as racist as other people in my opinion. i guess it's just easier to be self critical of your own race because you're part of the community.

[ChinaLama]

There once was a dude named ChinaLama
Who got into a stereotype-a-rama
Like a nice Asian fellow
He ate rice and played cello
And always would obey his mamma.

I've decided to respond only in limerick form from now on. I'm also in hiding from CL.

Can't hide from The Golden Child, buddy. :)

[mr. x]

There once was a dude named ChinaLama
Who got into a stereotype-a-rama
Like a nice Asian fellow
He ate rice and played cello
And always would obey his mamma.

I've decided to respond only in limerick form from now on. I'm also in hiding from CL.

whenever u limerick do provide a link to our lil limerick thread :tongue:

[spice]

what does "dbz" mean???

i kinda like stereotype #1. it's kinda worked in my favor a few times....

[hooligan]

what does "dbz" mean???

i kinda like stereotype #1. it's kinda worked in my favor a few times....
dragonball z

in reference to stereotype #1, can you explain how? my roommate said the same thing, but more like a "milestone" to mark APIA progress.

[spice]

what is "dragonball z "? is that some video game?

i think some of it is psychological. dunno...most of my life, people have just naturally assumed i was smart because i was asian. maybe if people tell you all the time that you're smart, you just start to believe it and everyone else around you believes it too, like teachers, friends, employers. it's a confidence thing but it makes a big difference.
it's like kids who are told that they're stupid or people just assume they're stupid, i'm sure it affects them psychologically too so they perform poorly academically. it's a self-fufilling prophecy....

[Tao]

what is "dragonball z "? is that some video game?


yeah you're defiently not asian now.....that's like second nature for yellow folk :cool:

[spice]

well i'm just not into video games... i guess i don't fit the stereotype. i don't know any asians who play video games... my brother does, but he's 10.

[SunWuKong]

i think some of it is psychological. dunno...most of my life, people have just naturally assumed i was smart because i was asian. maybe if people tell you all the time that you're smart, you just start to believe it and everyone else around you believes it too, like teachers, friends, employers. it's a confidence thing but it makes a big difference.


or alternatively people have higher academic expectations of you just because you're Asian, which is fine and dandy for those who are academically talented. but there are those that cannot live up to the expectations and all that pressure has negative psychological effects on them, especially if we're talking about young people.

[ChinaLama]

well i'm just not into video games... i guess i don't fit the stereotype. i don't know any asians who play video games... my brother does, but he's 10.

it was originally a manga, then an anime, then a pop culture phenomenon. :)

[mr. x]

i just have to say it.

"he's asian, you figure it out"

[ChinaLama]

i just have to say it.

"he's asian, you figure it out"

that's also why we're good at kung fu. more room to move down there, so to speak. :tongue:

[mr. x]

that's also why we're good at kung fu. more room to move down there, so to speak. :tongue:

waaaaaaah :frown:

yeah well she who shall not be named doesnt hafta worry about thta :mad:

[hooligan]

so, here's one (or a couple).

1. we're very good at video games
2. we're more homophobic, or at least the first generation tends to be.

[DragonKnight]

1. Asians are smart (the famous model minority myth)
Bah, I got some intelligence...but I'm lazy as hell. I depend more on talent rather than my IQ.

2. Asian parents are hard-asses.
Just my dad...even then, he mellowed out a lot. I've met a lotta asian families that have the coolest parents.

3. Asians are hard workers but poor communicators or lack "social skills."
<--Lazy bastard, great people skills in terms of organzing stuff and getting a crowd pumped up.

4. Asians are shallow/ materialistic.
*Major thumbs down*

There are a ton of deep, spiritual asians out there.

5. Asian MEN are more sexist.
Laf. More BS. No more than any other race.

6. Asians are more racist.
See #5.

Stereotypes blow. :mad:

[Blue dice]

Just my dad...even then, he mellowed out a lot. I've met a lotta asian families that have the coolest parents.

Yeah like my friend's family. Mom and dad are filthy rich (own multiple properties in upscale San marino, CA) and they have a completely hands off attitude towards him and his other siblings. The kids run around and buy cars for themselves (not kidding) they actually have their own bank accounts where the parents just dump in money every month. Both mom and dad own some chip plants in Taiwan or something. Both have serious work ethics but they let their kids do whatever.

Amazingly the kids aren't that spoiled and managed to be relatively successful in their endeavors. But still that's disgusting, I would have given my left nut to have those kinds of opportunties.

[>:^|]

4. Asians are shallow/ materialistic.

I'm curious ... does anybody see this as something that varies geographically? Midwestern Asians often think of themselves as different from California types. :wink:

6. Asians are more racist.

I hear this from Whites pretty often. Frankly, I don't want to discuss the subtleties of Asian-on-Asian racism with people who won't own up to White racism. I don't know that Asians are more racist. I think people in general are pretty racist.

[hooligan]

Yeah like my friend's family. Mom and dad are filthy rich (own multiple properties in upscale San marino, CA) and they have a completely hands off attitude towards him and his other siblings. The kids run around and buy cars for themselves (not kidding) they actually have their own bank accounts where the parents just dump in money every month. Both mom and dad own some chip plants in Taiwan or something. Both have serious work ethics but they let their kids do whatever.

Amazingly the kids aren't that spoiled and managed to be relatively successful in their endeavors. But still that's disgusting, I would have given my left nut to have those kinds of opportunties.
ah jeez, money breeds money.

i know these kids who drive bmws and benzs, and i mean, it'll be great if they were spoiled and lived off of their parents, but in all honesty, these kids are successful. they try hard, they make opportunities for themselves and they earn their keep (although driving cars like that ... :smile: ) coming from money you just know that it takes to make more of it. here i am trying to get my slice of the pie. :wink:

[Blue dice]

I hear this from Whites pretty often. Frankly, I don't want to discuss the subtleties of Asian-on-Asian racism with people who won't own up to White racism.
Which is hilarious because i've heard this one before too. It's gotten to the point where I loathe debating race with the typical white conservative because they always throw this card out. Then when you try to point out what they are doing they get all sanctamonius about it. The reality is a portion of American white society doesn't want to admit racism in any form. They view admission of their own faults as indirectly empowering minorities.

[blkazngirl]

Does that mean that all the stuff listed below is a lie? :eek: Now what the hell are we suppose to do?

What are the most common stereotypes Asian Americans buy into about other Asian Americans (or themselves?) off the top of my head, I'd say:

1. Asians are smart (the famous model minority myth)
2. Asian parents are hard-asses.
3. Asians are hard workers but poor communicators or lack "social skills."
4. Asians are shallow/ materialistic.
5. Asian MEN are more sexist.
6. Asians are more racist.

It sometimes pisses me off how much we-- including me -- buy into these stereotypes. Probably what prompted me to get pissed at this is the # of posts on LJ Asian American communities on #2 and #4. A lot of people also seem to buy into #3 very heavily, basically justifying the glass ceiling of Asian Americans in the workplace as a result of a "culture" where Asians are more likely to "defer to authority" or don't speak English well.

[krome]

Ha, y'all are much too generous to yourselves. Here's a reality check of the top 4 stereotypes about AMs (from a WF on the "other site (http://modelminority.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4210&start=8&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=)"):

1) AMs are "small".
2) AMs are sexist. They will expect you to be their slave.
3) AMs don't care about you when it comes to sex.
4) AMs will ---- you, but they won't marry you. You're nothing but a sperm depository to them (this one goes for just about every race though).

Those are the big ones, especially #1. I find it funny that #1 & #3 come up so often yet I have also heard the, "you know they have ancient Chinese sex secrets" crap too.

I think my favorite stupid comments are: "so you like cream on sum young gai" or "you're a peking tomasina". I'm always like, "buh? I can't believe you just said something so retarded".

I can look past such stereotypes of Asians mainly because I don't want to be judged on by my race, so why do it to others? Also, my middle school had a large Southeast Asian population. Firsthand experience goes a long way toward dispelling stereotypes and ignorance.

Uh, hear that Kelly Hu? :rolleyes: And I wonder where #2 got implanted into the American mainstream consciousness from - Amy Tan, MHK, etc? :mad:

[blkazngirl]

Why does everyone think "We have acient Chinese secret" when it comes to sex? And the small dick thing? What's up with that crap!

[Banana]

Why does everyone think "We have acient Chinese secret" when it comes to sex? And the small dick thing? What's up with that crap!

It's done so they can feel better about themselves. It's kinda like saying your really skinny at 500 pounds when you stand next to a 550 pound "fatty."

What's funny is that they actually have no idea if it's the truth or not. They just know that it's used to harm someone else's reputation without ever looking back.

So, whenever a black man says that, the best response is something like "That's a stereotype. If that's true, it's also true that blacks are nothing but stupid failures in this game called life. If one is true, the other is also. Are you saying that blacks are nothing but stupid failures?"

Same can be used with whites. Just replace black with white and replace "stupid failure" with "racist."

The best type of response from them is that all our stereotypes are true but their stereotypes are wrong. Classic.

[Fireblade]

all the white girl's think I have "black" in my pants. =P

[SunWuKong]

Why does everyone think "We have acient Chinese secret" when it comes to sex?

what are you trying to say? you mean you don't?

[deez nuts]

And the small dick thing? What's up with that crap!


the result of bitter women that fell victim to one too many bang and bounce by asian men?

[mr. x]

small dick thing as in perpetuated by whites or as in by sellout bitches (cough) kelly hu (cough).

[missmeow]

all the white girl's think I have "black" in my pants. =P

Oh man, you should get that checked before it falls off.

[deez nuts]

Oh man, you should get that checked before it falls off.


meow meow

[missmeow]

Ha, y'all are much too generous to yourselves. Here's a reality check of the top 4 stereotypes about AMs[...]

While I am flattered that you chose to repost me here, can you at least give a girl a heads up lest she be quoted out of context and portrayed in negative light?

[Irezumi Kiss]

(since I can't be black-- the stereotype that all blacks play bass guitar ;))

Where did you hear that from? That's news to me and I'M Black!

:tongue:

[mr. x]

theres also the kungfu thing which is funny cuz

1. we are quiet and meek, trying to stay out of trouble as much as possible

2. we know kungfu; kick much ass

[Kuchana]

You know, I have had the same experience and have not typically found that Whites assume Asians will be smart. Often I have found that some Whites will immediately assume that I am uneducated or just not very smart. In one class, a professor handed back our first papers. He praised mine greatly and then handed it to a White boy. After an exam was graded, he came up to me and asked, "Where did you come from? I've noticed that you do very well."

But I have noticed that some Asians, especially my parents' friends, will always assume the best of me. For example, if they hear I am working somewhere, they will assume I have the most prestigious job there. :rolleyes:

That reminds me when I wrote a paper in 11th grade for my English class. After class, the teacher approached me and said that I wrote English very well and he sounded surprise by that. Pshhh.

[Kuchana]

You know, I have had the same experience and have not typically found that Whites assume Asians will be smart. Often I have found that some Whites will immediately assume that I am uneducated or just not very smart. In one class, a professor handed back our first papers. He praised mine greatly and then handed it to a White boy. After an exam was graded, he came up to me and asked, "Where did you come from? I've noticed that you do very well."

But I have noticed that some Asians, especially my parents' friends, will always assume the best of me. For example, if they hear I am working somewhere, they will assume I have the most prestigious job there. :rolleyes:

That reminds me when I wrote a paper in 11th grade for my English class. After class, the teacher approached me and said that I wrote English very well and he sounded surprised by that. Pshhh.

[hooligan]

That reminds me when I wrote a paper in 11th grade for my English class. After class, the teacher approached me and said that I wrote English very well and he sounded surprised by that. Pshhh.
in one of my classes, one of the english TAs suggested that i take ESL classes for the issues in my writing. i was pretty dismayed until i showed my class TA my writing and she's like, "there's nothing wrong with it." go figure.

[Kuchana]

Asian women are docile and quiet. I'm the opposite:)

[Kuchana]

Asian women are docile and quiet. I'm the opposite:)

That's a stereotype I encounter a lot of times.

[hooligan]

all the white girl's think I have "black" in my pants. =P
the conversation always has to ggo to the penis :D

[moJo]

the conversation always has to ggo to the penis :D
and take note of which gender tends to direct it that way. :rolleyes: :tongue:
1. Asians are smart (the famous model minority myth)
In a lot of E Asian cultures ( i dont' know enough about SE or S Asians), at least, they pride themselves on education and working hard. That doesn't equal intelligence/smartness, though.
2. Asian parents are hard-asses.
Mine were. Big-time. About school and piano lessons. But they totally chilled out by the time I got to college cuz they heard about how kids were over-stressing themselves. My mom's friend's daughter killed herself partly due to academic stress.
3. Asians are hard workers but poor communicators or lack "social skills."
Perhaps it's tradition in Asia, but it can change with time. My parents are pretty affectionate and open. They've really been communicating with me in recent years. I still get somewhat tongue-tied, initially, when my mom sits me down to ask me if anything's wrong, and to tell me that I can talk to her about anything.
4. Asians are shallow/ materialistic.
Maybe the rich ones. I've definitely seen it with the upper-middle class to upper-class Asians. But how is that any different from their white/black/etc counterparts?
5. Asian MEN are more sexist.
no more than any other race of men who grew up in the US, or has spent enough time here.
6. Asians are more racist.
hmm. no. but i think when it comes to new immigrants, they tend to -initally - buy into a lot of the stereotypes about other races because they don't know any better. but with time, hopefully they'll see otherwise.

[Kuchana]

the conversation always has to ggo to the penis :D

Hey now, at least you don't have to worry about the female part since we in general lack big boobs and a curvy figure:P lol

[Fireblade]

Bleh... we all can make or control the sterotypes blasted at us by examples or actions that we take. If you aren't a quiet person, speak up. If you're not a jock, study more. If you're not a nerd, go hit the weights. If you're not a loser, do worthwhile things.

We're all a product of society. It's how we take the ideals that society has thrown at us, and how we choose to accept or manipulate them. Once people don't look at me as a sterotype, but as an individual, then I'm happy.

[darkguard]

Just like the stereotype that I had received
that I want to show other asian guys how much cooler I am on the Internet
by keep hinting them that I sleep and date only white women all the time
The truth is I am not a white ass kisser like the others

[Irezumi Kiss]

Hey now, at least you don't have to worry about the female part since we in general lack big boobs and a curvy figure:P lol

This is unfortunate because I meet plenty Asian women who have EXACTLY that...and then when anyone tries to sing of their praises, they're derided as being "fat."

And this is from BOTH sexes! You really can't win with people!

Bleh... we all can make or control the sterotypes blasted at us by examples or actions that we take.

I totally agree. I achieve a more peaceful state of mind when I subvert the stereotypes directed at me...or even appreciate the ones that can deliver a modicum of comfort depending on your attitude...

Like if a white person doesn't wanna sit next to me on a crowded subway train, I don't feel bad at ALL...most of the time I can't stand people crowding my zone anyway...

[hooligan]

Hey now, at least you don't have to worry about the female part since we in general lack big boobs and a curvy figure:P lol
i don't think it should matter :biggrin:<3

-ben

[Kuchana]

This is unfortunate because I meet plenty Asian women who have EXACTLY that...and then when anyone tries to sing of their praises, they're derided as being "fat."

And this is from BOTH sexes! You really can't win with people!

I hope you weren't taking my words out of context just to make sure. I was merely making a point about the general characterisitics of an Asian female's body, which doesn't make it a stereotype. Do I have anything against Asian females who have boobs or a curvy figure? Absolutely not. :) In fact more power to them and the people who would think that they're fat because they don't fit the mode of an Asian female's body are just plain idiots.

[hooligan]

Absolutely not. In fact more power to them and the people who would think that they're fat because they don't fit the mode of an Asian female's body are just plain idiots.
word, love yourself.

[krome]

While I am flattered that you chose to repost me here, can you at least give a girl a heads up lest she be quoted out of context and portrayed in negative light?
Woops, well I had no idea angi=msmeow and I did link the full thread for context. And I do give you props for honesty and looking past the uniformly negative stereotypes in your own personal life, though. Nothing negative about you. In fact, I liked your blunt post so much I reposted it here to give Asian guys a reality check - many of whom I believe tend to overanalyze matters too much in the head, when a far cruder Occam's simplicity is at root. Last thing we need is more PC self-delusion, which only diverts us further off-track from the problems we're truly facing - and true victory.

[missmeow]

I hope you weren't taking my words out of context just to make sure. I was merely making a point about the general characterisitics of an Asian female's body, which doesn't make it a stereotype. Do I have anything against Asian females who have boobs or a curvy figure? Absolutely not. :) In fact more power to them and the people who would think that they're fat because they don't fit the mode of an Asian female's body are just plain idiots.


I agree. It's amazing how the stereotypes and myths get perpetuated by the people who are the most negatively affected by them. I can only speak from being female, but it's like we all know the pressure to be thin and pretty yet we can also be the first to make the ugly cow comments, the wtf is she wearing comments, the look at the grill on her comments, etc.

As for what you're saying, total agreement. I can think of one example. I was friends with an Asian girl who had, I swear, the biggest J-Lo, ghetto, rump-shaker ass. She got chased by all the black guys and told she was fat by some of her Asian male friends. Then people wonder why (the last I heard) she married a black guy!

[missmeow]

Woops, well I had no idea angi=msmeow and I did link the full thread for context. And I do give you props for honesty and looking past the uniformly negative stereotypes in your own personal life, though. Nothing negative about you. In fact, I liked your blunt post so much I reposted it here to give Asian guys a reality check - many of whom I believe tend to overanalyze matters too much in the head, when a far cruder Occam's simplicity is at root. Last thing we need is more PC self-delusion, which only diverts us further off-track from the problems we're truly facing - and true victory.


No problem. I just wanted to give you a heads up.

[mr. x]

http://blacklava.net/site/02/a/images/1800.jpg

sigh, of course theres always the engrish.com website to offset that.

funny stuff though

http://www.engrish.com/recent_detail.php?imagename=ridiculous.jpg&category=Clothing&date=2003-12-10

[Napoleon Chynamite]

I'm one of the very few who wouldn't mind fitting into more of the stereotypical Asian guy mold. I could really use good grades, math skills, etc. right now.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

^the "good grades" thing is nice though---cause it's just like those studies on kids who are told, "you're smart, you're on the honor roll" along with kids who were told, "you're stupid, you suck at this and that." The ones told they were smart did better than kids who were not told anything, and a LOT better than the kids who were told they sucked.

something about mindset...I forget the whole study.

Hmm...cause people always told me I was smart and I still did poorly. Haha. I think it's a motivation thing yea but somehow I guess I wasn't motivated. Or smart. ^^

[hooligan]

^tests aren't for everyone. you probably have other talents, right? do you like to draw? :tongue:
apparently he's an 'artist' :D jk jk :D

-ben

[Sledge]

I want that shirt.

krome, what "PC bullshit" are you referring to specifically?

And, more generally, how exactly does one go about dispelling said myths? Maybe AMs could all walk around naked for a day in protest or something. ... or not.