Do nice guys actually finish last?

[tvbdude]

I never knew what people meant by this

[lethal]

The myth that nice guys never get what they want...women, jobs, anything.

For some its true, for some its not.

[pfc beansprout]

~yeah, myth on how us nice guys don't get chicks/jobs/etc. note: word, myth...pay your dues, you'll be fine. :lol:

[Saiko]

If you're a nice guy, you get ahead.
If you're a doormat, you get trampled and get behind.

[blue__blood]

Most "nice guys" don't know how to sell themselves...

[SunWuKong]

it's not nice guys that don't get ahead. it's whiny guys that don't get ahead.

[deez nuts]

I actually had this talk with fellow Asian co-workers when we were on call X-mas eve.

They were complaining about how they have trouble dating. Yeah the topic of interracial relationships came up. I set up both of them with my woman's friends. But they got dropped like a bad habit a couple of months into the relationship. Since my girl set em up, I know both sides of the story.

They were complaining about how they can't catch a break etc etc etc. Just being whiny bitches in general.

They're not bad looking guys, MD's (so well educated), they come from a good family with good family values, etc etc etc. They're good catches, in my opinion

But what's wrong with them? They were blaming everyone and everything but themselves. I told both of them that they're "yes men," they can't say no. Always saying yes and pampering their girlfriends to the point of suffocation. Afraid to disagree with them and stand up for themselves. Basically sackless and spineless. They gotta learn to say no. I do it all the time.

For example:

Soon to be fiancee: "Are you gonna buy me a X-mas present."
Me: "No. But here's a gift certificate from www.giftcertificate.com!"

See how easy it is. :D

You don't gotta be a total asshole or even a total nice guy. A happy medium and learn to stand up for yourself for god's sake. And sometimes all it entails is that you say "no" when you don't feel like doing something.

And one of the guys bought a dozen red roses for my woman's friend when they first met up :blink:. What's up with that? Who the fuck does that? When they meet someone new for the first time.

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 26 2002, 05:44 PM

And one of the guys bought a dozen red roses for my woman's friend when they first met up
that's pretty weak. i don't think i've ever given roses until at least 3 mos. and i don't even do that often for lack of deserving recipients.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by tazadar@Dec 26 2002, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 26 2002, 09:44 AM
For example:

Soon to be fiancee: "Are you gonna buy me a X-mas present."
Me: "No. But here's a gift certificate from www.giftcertificate.com!"

See how easy it is.  :D
For example:

financee: "Are you gonna have sex with me?"
Me: "No. But you can de-flower me after the wedding."

See how easy it is? :lol:

Congratulation, Doc.
Heheh thanks Taz.

[SunWuKong]

it's really very simple. you get the girl but not giving the woman what she really wants. less effort == more women. wow!

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Dec 26 2002, 01:53 PM
it's really very simple. you get the girl but not giving the woman what she really wants. less effort == more women. wow!
Or

Tell her what she wants to hear and give her what she wants. If you're lucky you'll get what you want! Sometimes :lol:

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 26 2002, 02:17 PM
Or

Tell her what she wants to hear and give her what she wants. If you're lucky you'll get what you want! Sometimes :lol:
yeah basically don't try so hard. it's really not very complicated. just chill out.

[wylin]

Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 26 2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 26 2002, 05:44 PM

And one of the guys bought a dozen red roses for my woman's friend when they first met up
that's pretty weak. i don't think i've ever given roses until at least 3 mos. and i don't even do that often for lack of deserving recipients.
u should give a girl roses when u wanna show her u care, its only like 40 bux less then a nice dinner for 2.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by wylin@Dec 26 2002, 02:29 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 26 2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 26 2002, 05:44 PM

And one of the guys bought a dozen red roses for my woman's friend when they first met up
that's pretty weak. i don't think i've ever given roses until at least 3 mos. and i don't even do that often for lack of deserving recipients.
u should give a girl roses when u wanna show her u care, its only like 40 bux less then a nice dinner for 2.
yeah well... if you rarely give her flowers, she'd be like "wow! flowers!". but if you give her flowers often, she'd be like "oh. flowers."

again, less effort == more women.

[wylin]

then i again i notice sumones a nice guy whose alone, burn!

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by wylin@Dec 26 2002, 02:44 PM
then i again i notice sumones a nice guy whose alone, burn!
doh!
hey i ain't a nice guy! i'm an ass.


(err... you were talking about me right?)

[mrazntre]

youz a jwerk!

[applehead]

again with this topic.

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 26 2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 26 2002, 05:44 PM

And one of the guys bought a dozen red roses for my woman's friend when they first met up
that's pretty weak. i don't think i've ever given roses until at least 3 mos. and i don't even do that often for lack of deserving recipients.
I got it ass backwards then. Instead of waiting for flowers from Mr. HH when we first dating, I sent some to him.

[rakovlam]

I'm a nice guy... nothing
I become an ass... nothing
I bribe her... nothing + summons to court

Is it really just me?

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by rakovlam@Dec 26 2002, 11:02 PM
I'm a nice guy... nothing
I become an ass... nothing
I bribe her... nothing + summons to court

Is it really just me?
give up
and they will come

[amietron]

$40 for a dozen roses?
maybe yours were cheap, will.

i don't think all whiny guys finish last. just most of 'em.

for every ass out there, there's a stupid bitch who'll put up with his shit. believe me. i know.

_okay, maybe not every ass. just the lucky ones.
_i kinda like that stiff back thing.

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Dec 26 2002, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 26 2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 26 2002, 05:44 PM

And one of the guys bought a dozen red roses for my woman's friend when they first met up
that's pretty weak. i don't think i've ever given roses until at least 3 mos. and i don't even do that often for lack of deserving recipients.
I got it ass backwards then. Instead of waiting for flowers from Mr. HH when we first dating, I sent some to him.
On the very first meeting. The first time you laid eyes on him?

And you sent him flowers. This d00d met her at a cafe with flowers, not just one but a dozen. They never seen each other before, till that day.

If some woman did that to me, I'd be overcomed with this overwhelming urge to flee. :D

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by applehead@Dec 26 2002, 08:35 PM
again with this topic.
Yeah, it's one of those things that guys are perplexed by here on YW.

They're not as caring and sensitive as yours truly here. Once they see the light de women will come! :D

[amietron]

just be racist and mean. then she'll like you. =)

[applehead]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 27 2002, 07:09 AM
Yeah, it's one of those things that guys are perplexed by here on YW.

They're not as caring and sensitive as yours truly here. Once they see the light de women will come! :D
i don't know about that... hmmm....

:P

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 27 2002, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Dec 26 2002, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 26 2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 26 2002, 05:44 PM

And one of the guys bought a dozen red roses for my woman's friend when they first met up
that's pretty weak. i don't think i've ever given roses until at least 3 mos. and i don't even do that often for lack of deserving recipients.
I got it ass backwards then. Instead of waiting for flowers from Mr. HH when we first dating, I sent some to him.
On the very first meeting. The first time you laid eyes on him?

And you sent him flowers. This d00d met her at a cafe with flowers, not just one but a dozen. They never seen each other before, till that day.

If some woman did that to me, I'd be overcomed with this overwhelming urge to flee. :D
I sent them after we had been dating a while. Our first meeting was by chance so there's no way either of us would have needed flowers when we met.

[mrazntre]

we see who wears the pants in the family.

[bigwong235]

Originally posted by amietron@Dec 27 2002, 03:23 PM
just be racist and mean. then she'll like you. =)
f- you!

:D

[amietron]

Originally posted by bigwong235@Dec 27 2002, 09:23 PM
f- you!

:D
me? what'd i do? 0=)

[bigwong235]

what? not mean enough for you?

[Craig]

Originally posted by bigwong235@Dec 28 2002, 05:05 AM
what? not mean enough for you?
you forgot the racial slur :rolleyes:

[deez nuts]

Less foreplay please.... k..thanks...move along.

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 28 2002, 03:37 PM
Less foreplay please.... k..thanks...move along.
:lol:

[BaiginLong]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Dec 27 2002, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 27 2002, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Dec 26 2002, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by ChairmanMah@Dec 26 2002, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Dec 26 2002, 05:44 PM

And one of the guys bought a dozen red roses for my woman's friend when they first met up
that's pretty weak. i don't think i've ever given roses until at least 3 mos. and i don't even do that often for lack of deserving recipients.
I got it ass backwards then. Instead of waiting for flowers from Mr. HH when we first dating, I sent some to him.
On the very first meeting. The first time you laid eyes on him?

And you sent him flowers. This d00d met her at a cafe with flowers, not just one but a dozen. They never seen each other before, till that day.

If some woman did that to me, I'd be overcomed with this overwhelming urge to flee. :D
I sent them after we had been dating a while. Our first meeting was by chance so there's no way either of us would have needed flowers when we met.
why in the world would you run (unless the girl is butt ugly or crazy or something)
tsk tsk tsk
what is it with this fear of commitment from the guys these days?????
:P

[Fireblade]

Nice guys finish last, cuz we cum after she does. Wow. Now isn't that nice? HAHAHA :lol:

[BaiginLong]

Originally posted by Fireblade@Dec 29 2002, 04:53 AM
Nice guys finish last, cuz we cum after she does. Wow. Now isn't that nice? HAHAHA :lol:
that's gold right there :D

[igcognito]

Originally posted by Fireblade@Dec 29 2002, 10:53 AM
Nice guys finish last, cuz we cum after she does. Wow. Now isn't that nice? HAHAHA :lol:
So that explains it!!!

Nice guys finish last because, we are usually very shy. While the bad one are out to get "it".

[mrazntre]

i want "it"

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by Fireblade@Dec 29 2002, 05:53 AM
Nice guys finish last, cuz we cum after she does. Wow. Now isn't that nice? HAHAHA :lol:
That's not normally a good thing in some cases.


Sometimes you gotta expl0de and g0.

[mrazntre]

hit, quit and split.

unless of course you're at your pad, in that case.. hit, hit and hit.. go to bed. and get some morning hit. and then tell her to split.

[KiTTY2babe]

Nice boiz finish last? They're too nice they let their women walk over them. Like they'd be looking stupid and they'd be alright about it because they are "in love". Seriously though, it pays to be a jerk sometimes to make women listen. Plus that will make them remember you more. Like notice how when women get together they always talk about those bastards and jerks? You'd hardly hear them blab about the nice homely boi they once banged and ditched at the curb.

[mr. x]

this says it all:

http://www.imdiversity.com/articleimages/asian/SAMHollywoodThanks2.jpg

[TyroneK(prettypretty)]

That's pretty funny. So true...

[Adaon]

Word...

[BaiginLong]

sad but true

[mr. x]

Baigin, i hope you got a "consolation prize" after the American Idol thing

There were ALL KINDS of girls from what i saw

[BaiginLong]

nope didn't happen

[Fireblade]

Shit, you'd think the media would respect our sexuality in culture more, since we asians wrote the book on sex. Seriously... Kama Sutra, Tantra, and other stuff.

Oh well, give it time. Soon.... asian men around will be known as the Sex Gods we are.... Muahahahahaha! :D

[TyroneK(prettypretty)]

Shh. Don't tell everybody. You heard what the Elders of Asian-America said. We're supposed to keep that a secret.

[seali-me]

what separates good men from nice guys is ability to objectively leave the woman if the circumstance demands it...

[mr. x]

Originally posted by Fireblade@Feb 2 2003, 04:11 AM
Shit, you'd think the media would respect our sexuality in culture more, since we asians wrote the book on sex. Seriously... Kama Sutra, Tantra, and other stuff.

Oh well, give it time. Soon.... asian men around will be known as the Sex Gods we are.... Muahahahahaha! :D
There's still this seperation between us and the indian asians though

[UCLABruins98]

"nice guys finish last" means that all those considerate sensitive guys that let the girl have an orgasm first, finish, well.... LAST!!! so hurry up, finish first, pass out and worry about it tomorrow. lol.

[mr. x]

I hate to break it to you UCLA, but i think someone did the innuendo joke earlier

[BaiginLong]

Originally posted by seali-me@Feb 2 2003, 07:00 AM
what separates good men from nice guys is ability to objectively leave the woman if the circumstance demands it...
hmm I think I'll take that to mind

[Hanuman]

I think this quote was from "the Rock"

it goes something like this, 'the losers are the ones who'll say 'nice game, and it doesn't matter who wins, or loses, but how you play the game' The winners go on to fuck the prom queen."

Too true, too true.

[Azn Retribution]

Originally posted by Tawee@Feb 3 2003, 10:54 PM
I think this quote was from "the Rock"

it goes something like this, 'the losers are the ones who'll say 'nice game, and it doesn't matter who wins, or loses, but how you play the game' The winners go on to fuck the prom queen."

Too true, too true.
werd

[bigwong235]

Originally posted by Tawee@Feb 3 2003, 10:54 PM
I think this quote was from "the Rock"

it goes something like this, 'the losers are the ones who'll say 'nice game, and it doesn't matter who wins, or loses, but how you play the game' The winners go on to fuck the prom queen."

Too true, too true.
losers always whine about their best. winners go home and fuck the prom queen.

/sean connery mode off/

[AznYam]

but Carla was the prom queen

[Adaon]

:lol: u guys are too much

[contra_diction]

Originally posted by seali-me@Feb 2 2003, 05:00 AM
what separates good men from nice guys is ability to objectively leave the woman if the circumstance demands it...
what does this mean?

[deez nuts]

Originally posted by contra_diction@Feb 4 2003, 06:34 AM
what does this mean?
That means you're not blinded from being pussy whipped that you actually know when to call it quits.

Nice guys get pussy whipped
Real men whip that pussy

So in other words, don't be pussy whipped. Whip that pussy.

Edit: Can't front it is easier said than done.

[teaz0r]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Feb 4 2003, 08:32 PM

So in other words, don't be pussy whipped. Whip that pussy.

preferably while you are wearing a studded cockring,
and she's got clitoris and nipple clamps on. v. good.

or if you want to stick to conventionalism, you can use
the edible gummy whip (http://ww2.sextoysex.com/sex/start/view.html?a=libro90&pnum=PD7508-60). you know...beat it then eat it.

v.good.

[VV o n g B a]

Originally posted by pipSy@Feb 4 2003, 08:46 AM
or if you want to stick to conventionalism, you can use
the edible gummy whip (http://ww2.sextoysex.com/sex/start/view.html?a=libro90&pnum=PD7508-60). you know...beat it then eat it.
omg. thats hilarious. i bet making sex toys is a fun job. :lol:

[mr. x]

Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Feb 4 2003, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by pipSy@Feb 4 2003, 08:46 AM
or if you want to stick to conventionalism, you can use
the edible gummy whip (http://ww2.sextoysex.com/sex/start/view.html?a=libro90&pnum=PD7508-60). you know...beat it then eat it.
omg. thats hilarious. i bet making sex toys is a fun job. :lol:
cept when you learn by mistake...

[Adaon]

Originally posted by mr. x@Feb 4 2003, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Feb 4 2003, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by pipSy@Feb 4 2003, 08:46 AM
or if you want to stick to conventionalism, you can use
the edible gummy whip (http://ww2.sextoysex.com/sex/start/view.html?a=libro90&pnum=PD7508-60). you know...beat it then eat it.
omg. thats hilarious. i bet making sex toys is a fun job. :lol:
cept when you learn by mistake...
imagine being a tester for sex toys, and then something goes awry..... :unsure: :blink: :ph34r:
Back to the subject.....I dunno.....longterm wise I've noticed that most of the girls I know tend to stay longer in the relationships with the "nice guys".......

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Feb 4 2003, 08:32 AM
That means you're not blinded from being pussy whipped that you actually know when to call it quits.

Nice guys get pussy whipped
Real men whip that pussy

So in other words, don't be pussy whipped. Whip that pussy.

Edit: Can't front it is easier said than done.
Power! The only language women understand.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Feb 4 2003, 05:32 AM
Edit: Can't front it is easier said than done.
*hugs*

Be strong...be strong!

[deez nuts]

First you get de money, then you get de power, then you get de women!

-Scarface.

[Azn Retribution]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Feb 5 2003, 05:56 AM
First you get de money, then you get de power, then you get de women!

-Scarface.
werd!

[amietron]

Originally posted by Chasiubao_Boy@Feb 4 2003, 05:32 AM
Nice guys get pussy whipped
Real men whip that pussy.
I want a real nice guy.

[achtungbaby]

Ohhh...I thought this thread was about which guys have more stamina...

[Fireblade]

Why do girls complain about nice guys anyway? If you got a nice guy, why complain? It brings back to that old theory that all girls need some type of drama in their lives...

*ducks under a bush* :ph34r:

[Azn Retribution]

or maybe just asian girls.

asian girls = drama

[mr. x]

two words, dragon ladies

[amietron]

Originally posted by mr. x@Feb 10 2003, 10:21 PM
two words, dragon ladies
what're dragon ladies?

[Azn Retribution]

asian girl stereotype.
Something about being stuck up, prudeish and all that fun stuff

[DragonKnight]

Originally posted by Fireblade@Feb 9 2003, 04:36 AM
Why do girls complain about nice guys anyway? If you got a nice guy, why complain? It brings back to that old theory that all girls need some type of drama in their lives...
Seems like it. Tho I'm thinking of the other theory of, "If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't."

[VV o n g B a]

nice guys finish last. period. look at what this very un-nice guy achieved...

un-nice guy story (http://forums.yellowworld.org/index.php?act=ST&f=12&t=5966&hl=genghis)

[Adaon]

Originally posted by Fireblade@Feb 9 2003, 04:36 AM
*ducks under a bush* :ph34r:
hahahahah :lol: Damn....start reading and read that....can't stop laffing..... :lol: :o

[Fireblade]

U laff at silly things my friend. You included.
Punkass. :lol:

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by DragonKnight@Feb 11 2003, 01:41 PM
Seems like it.  Tho I'm thinking of the other theory of, "If it's too good to be true, it probably isn't."
Yes, my dad told me that wise old proverb when I was little. And then I repeated it to him on the night he opened my report card in the mail with anticipation that fateful Friday night........... :unsure: :lol:

[Shuriken]

Originally posted by amietron@Feb 11 2003, 07:48 PM
what're dragon ladies?
from Asian Stereotypes:

Asian women as "China dolls." Asian women are often portrayed as exotic, subservient, compliant, industrious, eager to please. While nicknamed the "China doll," "geisha girl," or "lotus blossom," this sexually loaded stereotype isn't restricted to Chinese or Japanese women. This portrayal is epitomized by the self-effacing title character of the opera "Madame Butterfly," but it can also be seen in works like "Teahouse of the August Moon" and "Tai-Pan."
Stereotype-Buster: Asian women as self-confident and self-respecting, pleasing themselves as well as their loved ones.


Asian women as "dragon ladies." Another major female stereotype views Asian women as inherently scheming, untrustworthy, and back-stabbing. This portrayal is nicknamed the "dragon lady," after the Asian villainess in the vintage comic strip "Terry and the Pirates." Other examples of the stereotype are the daughter of Fu Manchu (in numerous books and movies) and the gangsters' molls in "The Year of the Dragon."
Stereotype-Buster: Whenever villains are Asian, it's important that their villainy not be attributed to their ethnicity.



Read more at Asian Stereotypes (http://www.manaa.org/a_stereotypes.html).

Also, check out the Boston Phoenix article There's Something About Lucy (http://www.bostonphoenix.com/archive/features/00/02/24/ASIAN_BABES.html).

[kayla]

Originally posted by blue__blood@Dec 26 2002, 04:26 AM
Most "nice guys" don't know how to sell themselves...
I agree.

[kayla]

I think the term "nice guys" have been incorporated with too many bad qualities. A lot of nice guys arent whiny or needy. They're genuinely nice. The whiny and needy guys are the whiny and needy ones so they deserve their own title.

[SunWuKong]

Originally posted by kayla@Feb 13 2003, 05:10 PM
I think the term "nice guys" have been incorporated with too many bad qualities. A lot of nice guys arent whiny or needy. They're genuinely nice. The whiny and needy guys are the whiny and needy ones so they deserve their own title.
maybe. but to get the girls, try being aloof. perhaps even be an asshole. it works.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by SunWuKung@Feb 13 2003, 02:17 PM
maybe. but to get the girls, try being aloof. perhaps even be an asshole. it works.
Yea sometimes being an asshole works...but I guess the main point really is yeah to 'sell yourself' in that you have to make girls think that you are worth the time and trouble and at the same time you keep a part of yourself hidden that they want to find out more about based upon what they already know about you. Also obviously if you whine or exhibit self-pity all the time, it makes them question their own perception of you, whether it was positive or negative in the first place upon first impression or general impression. I mean, it's like 'How great can the guy be if he himself is always seeing himself as worthless or garbage?'

[amietron]

Originally posted by kayla@Feb 13 2003, 02:10 PM
I think the term "nice guys" have been incorporated with too many bad qualities. A lot of nice guys arent whiny or needy. They're genuinely nice. The whiny and needy guys are the whiny and needy ones so they deserve their own title.
what about whine, needy and asshole?

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by amietron@Feb 14 2003, 12:04 PM
what about whine, needy and asshole?
Those guys probably have no hope unless they are really good-looking.

Edit: Oops, I forgot.....also, if he's really rich

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Feb 14 2003, 12:14 PM
Edit: Oops, I forgot.....also, if he's really rich
Or huge.

[kayla]

idk. marrying a whiny, needy or asshole guy for his money isnt worth it. he would drive me insane and i would end up cheating on him or something because, well, i have needs too. :P and he might be one of those crazy jealous whiny/needy ones and the story ends up as a murder-suicide.

besides, i don't need my man to be rich, just financially stable.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Nice guys don't finish last. Poor guys finish last. :( :frown: :lol:

[VV o n g B a]

Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Feb 16 2003, 01:40 PM
Nice guys don't finish last. Poor guys finish last. :( :frown: :lol:
then poor, nice guys would finish dead fooking last. :P

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by VV o n g B a@Feb 16 2003, 03:08 PM
then poor, nice guys would finish dead fooking last. :P
hmmmm i.e. me :frown: :frown: :( :lol:

[mr. x]

Nice guys may finish last, but so do nice girls, and they'll be together :P

[Fireblade]

like I said earlier... nice guys finish last, because a girl cums first. :P

but if nice guys are with nice girls, then maybe they'll let us cum before them. :lol:

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by Fireblade@Feb 17 2003, 02:10 PM
like I said earlier... nice guys finish last, because a girl cums first. :P

but if nice guys are with nice girls, then maybe they'll let us cum before them. :lol:
just keep pounding away if you cum, that's all she wants. unless of course the guy's dick shrinks like a frightened turtle after climaxing...then i can understand what you were saying.

[Fireblade]

:confused:

[BaiginLong]

hmm I be fairly rich but still no girl yet so money really doesn't count for all that much
seriously even if I were filthy rich I'd try not to show it or else I'd be worried that I'd attract gold-diggers
me want nice girl who wants me for me

[himura-dono]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Feb 19 2003, 01:51 AM
hmm I be fairly rich but still no girl yet so money really doesn't count for all that much
seriously even if I were filthy rich I'd try not to show it or else I'd be worried that I'd attract gold-diggers
me want nice girl who wants me for me

If you do want the absolute best go for the Alienware monsters
they aren't light though but they will do just about everything and then some
the one I'm putting together is about ohhhh $5G

*cough*bullshit*cough*

:D

[bigwong235]

:o :o :o

















:D

[ellsworth81]

Originally posted by BaiginLong@Feb 18 2003, 05:51 PM
hmm I be fairly rich but still no girl yet so money really doesn't count for all that much
seriously even if I were filthy rich I'd try not to show it or else I'd be worried that I'd attract gold-diggers
me want nice girl who wants me for me
hah

hook a brotha up, na mean?


if you not flossin', course you ain't gonna bring in the lizzadies
do we have any superficial, rich, playboys who can show him the way? :lol: :wacko:

[Asian_American_Sansei]

To be totally honest with you, I have a girlfriend from Japan. She is from Fujisawa, Fujigaoka in the Kanagawa prefecture. She and I are planning to marry too. How did a Nikkei (Japanese American) win a catch like this? Easy. I forgot her name. Some may say: Geez, that's F-ed up, but not giving a damn actually helps. But before meeting her, in my early 20s, I banged around with a bunch of Asian chicks. How? I forgot who they were and treated them like crap. No, I didn't beat the crap out of them or anything illegal. I never got them drunk so that I can get between their legs. What I did was, I never bought them anything, I never went out with them more than once a week. I called usually on a weeknight and banged them on a Thursday. After I banged them, I left their place. No cuddling, spooning, telling them I love you, etc. Hell, I had five chicks. One on Monday, One on Tuesday, One on Wednesday, etc. The weekend was with the boys, I would go drinking with them and shoot pool or play basketball. You may think: God, you're a dick! I know I am, but Asian chicks go out with A-holes. Before acting like an ass, the broads used to say: I like (pick a nationality other than Asian) because they're hung better and they make me [have an orgasm] or you remind me like a brother. The chicks I banged are not girlfriends I do not treat my girlfriend like that. I love her. But the penis bit, I would respond back by saying: Hey honey, I couldn't care less about you, because when I bang a broad, I feel good and I really don't care how you feel. If I banged you, you're just a booty call, a piece of ass and leave you. Or the brother bit, if you were to forget things like her birthday, Valentines, etc., she will most likely be attracted to you, because you are not like a brother! A brother remembers all the nice things, a mutual friend does not. So the best bet? Treat them like they are nothing. I called my last ex a bitch and said her father's passing was not an accident, but a suicide and she was to blame. She cried and I banged her hard.

[teaz0r]

were most of your girls blind, deaf or dumb?
or do you just shoot for girls with zero self
respect and non existant self esteem. then
most boys could do that. ain't a thing.

and this topic's already been covered. done to death.
or in your words. banged once too many times.

and you post has nothing to do with white men except
that you have a smaller dick than everybody else =)

[golden_buns]

Originally posted by pipSy@Mar 2 2003, 03:40 AM
were most of your girls blind, deaf or dumb?
or do you just shoot for girls with zero self
respect and non existant self esteem. then
most boys could do that. ain't a thing.

and this topic's already been covered. done to death.
or in your words. banged once too many times.

and you post has nothing to do with white men except
that you have a smaller dick than everybody else =)
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha haha!!!!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[ChairmanMah]

Originally posted by pipSy@Mar 2 2003, 03:40 AM
were most of your girls blind, deaf or dumb?
or do you just shoot for girls with zero self
respect and non existant self esteem. then
most boys could do that. ain't a thing.

and this topic's already been covered. done to death.
or in your words. banged once too many times.

and you post has nothing to do with white men except
that you have a smaller dick than everybody else =)
:lol:

[golden_buns]

It's hillarious to see people desperately trying to claim they're "all that" on the net and then having someone burst their bubble

[deez nuts]

I wanna be like Mike! Is your name Mike?

*drinks Gatorade**

[kasia]

i can't really see how your post relates af/wm relationships. merging with "nice guys finish last" thread. please choose an appropriate topic name in the future.

[teaz0r]

Nice Guys Finish Last
nah, just the whiny ones.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Hey Pipsy why is like the image in ur avatar different in every single post? Maybe this 'puter is just busted.

[teaz0r]

Originally posted by FrozenPizza@Mar 3 2003, 02:07 AM
Hey Pipsy why is like the image in ur avatar different in every single post? Maybe this 'puter is just busted.
it's magic baby =)

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Originally posted by pipSy@Mar 2 2003, 11:09 AM
it's magic baby =)
It's poor maintenance is what it is. I've been trying to get them to upgrade (that's what they call it right) or sumthin for a while now...it's the lab in the library so the equipment isn't as great as all the stuff in the newer labs in other buildings.

[deez nuts]

I'm tempted to lock this thread...lemme get a general idea here.

In summary my take:

I think the super nice guys finish last. But also, the guys that front to be hard and assholes ain't far behind. Both are just as annoying. Just be yourself and go with it. However, some people are just natural pushovers and wusses and others are natural born assholes. No denying that fact.

The key to poon paradise is being an asshole and disrespectful just ain't me. Just as being super sickenly nice ain't me, either. From my point of view acting on either extremes equates to the same amount of work to me. In other words, I ain't feeling it.

Bottomline: I may be a bastard but not I'm not a fucking bastard. You know what I'm saying?


What say fellas? Give your final remarks and then kill this thread?

[teaz0r]

je serai la prochaine femme que vous faites l'amour à

[Cipherous]

Not all things is life are what they seem

I am hearing that nice guys are desirable...however, some people say there are and some people say they aren't...is there some truth to this?

Are nice guys usually the leaders? Are nice guys usually the alpha males?

Granted there are many more factors to be considered to be able to conclude that nice guys do finish last.

such as money, looks, social standing and what not.

However, given that money, looks, social standing are the same. If two guys were exactly the same except for their personality, who would attract more women...the nice guy or not-so-nice guy?

[Tao]

i think people confuse nice guy with spineless guy. everyone likes nice people...common sense dictate that. spineless guys on the other hand, are the ones that bitch and moan about how "insensitive" a girl was to his feelings that other day or some weak ass sob story that just makes you want to choke them or castrate them.

wow that was bitter.....guess i know which kind of guy i am huh?

[Emperor_Mike]

Of course not. If you're pleasant and thoughtful it's considered as a good thing by many people. Naturally, no one can be pleasant and thoughtful ALL the time, so you must learn when to seize the initiative and exploit opportunities when they materialise.

[TyroneK(prettypretty)]

Well, I think the truth of this little cliche all depends on the definition and in which context you're "nice." If you're a doormat, you're not going to get any women. I know this from firsthand experience. If you're a jerk though, you also won't get any women because you won't be desirable unless she's a real masochist (and that gets rarer the older you get).

However, if you're confident and/or nice to a decent, yet select, number of people without being a social whore, then you get somewhere by being nice to a girl if you're okay with her friends. This is especially true if you've controlled your image well and you don't subvert any appearance of self-peace by being too deferrential or servile. You won't have people telling your targets that you're a jerk and at the same time it makes your affection more special. People like feeling that they've earned something special by being their regular flawed selves. They're needy like that.

These are all empirical observations. I'm sure someone's had a contrary experience. This is of course assuming that you had a chance with the girl in the first place. I notice that some people run a lot of races they aren't fit enough to finish.

je serai la prochaine femme que vous faites l'amour à
Je serai la prochaine femme avec qui vous faites l'amour.

Better way to say this is:

Vous me foudrez.

[stunninglyAsian]

Based on what I've seen, I think it's highly dependent on age.

If you're a teenager, nice guys finish dead last. At that age, it's cool to be a piss-drunk jerk off. Girls think it's exciting and new.

If you're in college/right after college, nice guys finish last, but a few of us are managing to get the hook up. After getting burnt a bit, now is the time girls date all kinds of guys- rich guys, art guys, hot guys at the club, one night stands, etc.

If you're nearing critical marriage age (around 30yrs old), now... now finally, after 30 years of being just friends, of being rejected, now you are in demand. Girls are now tired of all the crap- tired of being treated like shit and that biological clock is ticking... they want a kid and a man who will be there for her and their child.

[ellsworth81]

I'm tempted to lock this thread...lemme get a general idea here.

In summary my take:

I think the super nice guys finish last. But also, the guys that front to be hard and assholes ain't far behind. Both are just as annoying. Just be yourself and go with it. However, some people are just natural pushovers and wusses and others are natural born assholes. No denying that fact.

The key to poon paradise is being an asshole and disrespectful just ain't me. Just as being super sickenly nice ain't me, either. From my point of view acting on either extremes equates to the same amount of work to me. In other words, I ain't feeling it.

Bottomline: I may be a bastard but not I'm not a fucking bastard. You know what I'm saying?

What say fellas? Give your final remarks and then kill this thread?

yea, what CSB said. Somewhere in between is fine.
Be sexual but not a lecher. Be friendly but not a pushover. yadda yadda.
is it time to close this?

[ChinaLama]

If you're nearing critical marriage age (around 30yrs old), now... now finally, after 30 years of being just friends, of being rejected, now you are in demand. Girls are now tired of all the crap- tired of being treated like shit and that biological clock is ticking... they want a kid and a man who will be there for her and their child.

she'll marry the nice guy but fuck his friends. so he still loses out. :(

[deez nuts]

yea, what CSB said. Somewhere in between is fine.
Be sexual but not a lecher. Be friendly but not a pushover. yadda yadda.
is it time to close this?


**cough**a wise man once told me**cough** you have to develop a healthy disrespect and animosity towards women.

**waits for the pitter patter of feet of angry women**

muhahahah too late suckahs!

locking.

[ModernLogic]

I used to scoff at the cliche "nice guys finish last" but the more I interact with girls, the more I think it's true.

The problem is girls don't know what they want. They say they want a nice and funny guy but that's only as a friend. For a sex partner, they want a devilishly handsome bad boy. I know none of what I'm writing is original, but it doesn't make it any less legit.

I think if you're too nice to a girl, they think there's something wrong with you. Like: "Why's this guy so nice? I bet he's a total loser." But if you act like a jerk, they're like "Whoa, this guy must be a catch." Again, there's a matter of degree involved, but in general I think this is pretty true.

For example, I'm like a total gentlemen with the ladies: I open doors for them, compliment them, listen to them when they yack about their boring weekend details, etc. And it's gotten me nowhere. My friend (who's only marginally more attractive than me) is a complete jerk. Like he'll say he'll call a girl and then doesn't call. He acts totally indifferent when a girl is talking to him. He'll make half-assed compliments. And that drives the ladies crazy.

What dyall think?

[BigLew]

One word for you youngster. CHALLENGE

[ModernLogic]

One word for you youngster. CHALLENGE

lol. Okay.

[Cipherous]

heres my take,

there all types of girls and all types of guys, you can never generalize a specific behavior to a gender.

some guys respect Micheal Jordan over Ghandi

some girls favor getting big boobs over gaining intellect

people think differently and interact differently as well,

some girls may find gentlemen gestures to be wimpy while some may consider it to be endearing. Same with guys, you can be cordial to some guys and you can't to some

people are different and you shouldn't try to mold yourself to fit their needs.

if you really have to change your personality and your life just to fit in with that special somebody, then you probably wouldn't be happy. Which kinda defeats the purpose of being with somebody that supposely makes you happy

nice guys do finish last, but those nice guys are nice to the wrong people

[missmeow]

Maybe if the nice guys were chasing nice girls there wouldn't be any problem.

[DragonKnight]

I used to scoff at the cliche "nice guys finish last" but the more I interact with girls, the more I think it's true.

The problem is girls don't know what they want. They say they want a nice and funny guy but that's only as a friend. For a sex partner, they want a devilishly handsome bad boy. I know none of what I'm writing is original, but it doesn't make it any less legit.

I think if you're too nice to a girl, they think there's something wrong with you. Like: "Why's this guy so nice? I bet he's a total loser." But if you act like a jerk, they're like "Whoa, this guy must be a catch." Again, there's a matter of degree involved, but in general I think this is pretty true.

For example, I'm like a total gentlemen with the ladies: I open doors for them, compliment them, listen to them when they yack about their boring weekend details, etc. And it's gotten me nowhere. My friend (who's only marginally more attractive than me) is a complete jerk. Like he'll say he'll call a girl and then doesn't call. He acts totally indifferent when a girl is talking to him. He'll make half-assed compliments. And that drives the ladies crazy.

What dyall think? All true. This has been my general experience. Reason why I don't even bother getting with anyone. Cause the girls I eventually wanna go for are too hurt by bad guys to give shit about giving love another chance. :rolleyes:

Whatever. I'm too old and bitter about my own past relationships. So what's the fucking use.

[Cipherous]

I used to scoff at the cliche "nice guys finish last" but the more I interact with girls, the more I think it's true.

The problem is girls don't know what they want. They say they want a nice and funny guy but that's only as a friend. For a sex partner, they want a devilishly handsome bad boy. I know none of what I'm writing is original, but it doesn't make it any less legit.

I think if you're too nice to a girl, they think there's something wrong with you. Like: "Why's this guy so nice? I bet he's a total loser." But if you act like a jerk, they're like "Whoa, this guy must be a catch." Again, there's a matter of degree involved, but in general I think this is pretty true.

For example, I'm like a total gentlemen with the ladies: I open doors for them, compliment them, listen to them when they yack about their boring weekend details, etc. And it's gotten me nowhere. My friend (who's only marginally more attractive than me) is a complete jerk. Like he'll say he'll call a girl and then doesn't call. He acts totally indifferent when a girl is talking to him. He'll make half-assed compliments. And that drives the ladies crazy.

What dyall think?

you have to admit though, if you had a friend that was too nice to you, you'd probably take advantage of his kindness.

Same with girls, if a girl is too nice to you, you'd probably have your way and do as you please.

thats considering if you're anything like the average person.

also,

confidence does alot for a person.

regardless of male or female.

this is true when you go to job interviews, play pick up basketball, engage in conversations, etc.

[mr. x]

trust me though, i highly doubt a not good looking guy is gonna get a girl by being a jackass, point is the girls want that mystery, but not the ugly kind

[lethal]

Re-opened and merged for new input.

But only new input, not rehashing the same thing over and over again.

[LilJon]

who here actually believes in that? i do! i dunno, i consider myself a 'nice guy' generally, i mean ive got some inner secrets that im really not proud of, but i mean in general, i try not to be a jerk or an ass. but i just find it hard to get anywhere with girls, especially even to just become a close friend. i've tried being a dick, that pissed them off, i've tried showering them with compliments (that i wholeheartedly meant too), that scared them off... i dunno, i have bad luck with girls, but then again, i'd say i have bad luck in general. these days girls i talk to, well if i even show a remote amount of interest, they seem to show lots of disinterest. like this one girl, i asked her if she was gonna be busy on the weekend, and she said she didnt know, and admitted she probably wasnt gonna do much, i asked her to a movie and she suddenly "had things to do" i mean maybe i like this girl, but i wouldnt mind just being good friends, but right now i sometimes think 'friend' is even a stretch. talking to her is weird for me cus i find her very attractive, but it seems like i really have to try in order to get a conversation to go anywhere, i find everytime i get a 'lol' it makes me feel happy cus i think that i'm making her laugh and that warms my heart (boy does that sound cheesy), and we pass notes in class cus we get bored, but i dunno, a lot of the time i feel like i make no difference in her life, or anyone else's for that matter.

[SunWuKong]

be nice, but don't be a doormat. and you don't have to be an asshole, you just have to act like you don't really care either way - be a little aloof (which doesn't mean you should be arrogant either).

[deez nuts]

nice guys don't finish last because mean people suck

[Emperor_Mike]

Whether you want to be nice or not should depend on just how important the objective to be accomplished is. Nice guys only finish last because they don't know when to be nice and when to be aggressive.

[LilJon]

blah i dunno how to find the proper mix i guess, i'd be happy if i could just get close to her even as a friend, but talking to her sometimes seems so hard...

[fossilfuel]

Well, there was a 9 page discussion about this issue here:

http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=11359&page=9&pp=15&highlight=finish

but you probably posted this before you had access to that forum.

And, uhh, I dunno, I find self declared "nice guys" just usually have inflated standards, that's why they complain.

Keep on trucking'

[LilJon]

Well, there was a 9 page discussion about this issue here:

http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=11359&page=9&pp=15&highlight=finish

but you probably posted this before you had access to that forum.

And, uhh, I dunno, I find self declared "nice guys" just usually have inflated standards, that's why they complain.

Keep on trucking'
well maybe i am full of myself, but i don't think so, many girls i meet call me "too nice" maybe that's my problem, i've tried to lighten things up, and i'm handling things different this time around, but still... can't seem to get her to want to talk to me, i mean we have our fun conversations now and then, usually in class, but i've just got this feeling that once this quarter is over, most of whatever friendship we have is going out the window

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Nice guys don't finish last. Boring guys finish last. Unfortunately it just seems like most nice guys are also a lot more boring than most guys that are um...not necessarily 'bad' but just not so overtly like a doormat, like SWK mentioned. The key is to be a good guy but also have other things to offer or keep her interested besides just following her around and doing whatever she wants. That's why it seems some girls choose the bad guy over the nice guy. The nice guy seems to already have shown his entire hand while the bad guy provides a sense of mystery. Plus the fact that a lotta girls like to think of themselves as capable of changing bad guys into good guys.

[John0101]

It really depends on the girl. I don't feel like argueing about this.

[fossilfuel]

well maybe i am full of myself,
WHAT!


but i don't think so, many girls i meet call me "too nice" maybe that's my problem,

WHAT!


i've tried to lighten things up, and i'm handling things different this time around, but still...

YEAH!


can't seem to get her to want to talk to me,

OKAY!


i mean we have our fun conversations now and then, usually in class, but i've just got this feeling that once this quarter is over, most of whatever friendship we have is going out the window
A LITTLE LOUDER!

hehe, sorry but your screenname invited that.

Pretty much anything said here will just be ad nausem arguments from before...

Find a new girl to hang out with and maybe flaunt the new girl around her :biggrin:

[LilJon]

err dont think that would work, but nice try.
and ur doing it all wrong
whAAAAAAAT!?!?!
yeeeeeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
ooKAAAAYYYYYY!

[Hiroshi2]

wwwwHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAtttttttttttt?



Who you wit, get crunk who you wit, get crunk who you wit!!!!!!!!


Lean back, bitch nigga, lean back, fore we blow yo back away, i said my niggas don't dance we just pull out a gat and blow yo back away bitch nigga lean back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Bia bia!!!!!!! Bia bia, why you actin like a........like a......BIA BIA!!!!!!!!!!

O-kay-kay-kay-kay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[LilJon]

yea i think i'm just gonna give up and move on, things just don't seem to work with her in most senses, she seems nice and i don't think she quite dislikes me, but i know she doesn't like me the way i like her and i just don't think i'll be able to get as close as i'd like.

[BigLew]

Don't present need for anything, show that you are strong and independent and satisfied with yourself without the need for others attention and approval. This is honest but it will go over most of you guys heads.

[draconisz]

Er. . .Lil Jon. Nice guys don't finish last. Boring guys don't finish last. There isn't a first or last place. All you are trying to do is find someone who is compatible. If you want to be a swinger. . .then you have to learn how to swing. If you want to find someone special then join the rest of us.

That ain't the easiest thing in the world. I had the nice guy syndrome for a long time. Then I posted my problems on the net and almost got trampled by women. I didn't know what to do at first because I have never been in that situation. And all I ended up doing was hurting someone special.

I am just warning you before you get started.

Be careful what you wish for.

[ellsworth81]

talk about sex a lot. that always works. especially the kind of sex involving you and her.

[LilJon]

Er. . .Lil Jon. Nice guys don't finish last. Boring guys don't finish last. There isn't a first or last place. All you are trying to do is find someone who is compatible. If you want to be a swinger. . .then you have to learn how to swing. If you want to find someone special then join the rest of us.

That ain't the easiest thing in the world. I had the nice guy syndrome for a long time. Then I posted my problems on the net and almost got trampled by women. I didn't know what to do at first because I have never been in that situation. And all I ended up doing was hurting someone special.

I am just warning you before you get started.

Be careful what you wish for.
not trying to be a swinger, just trying to understand and be able to befriend girls with more ease.

[DragonKnight]

talk about sex a lot. that always works. especially the kind of sex involving you and her. Yes, we like amusing stories. :biggrin:

[SunWuKong]

threads have been merged.

[John0101]

talk about sex a lot. that always works. especially the kind of sex involving you and her.

too risky, some girls would just hate that. Maybe after a while.

[Emperor_Mike]

Good lord. The best advice I can think of is to be yourself, don't be a push-over, and don't be afraid to pull dirty tricks on the competition if you think they have no compunction about doing the same. Heh.

Besides, if the girl you're after is only interested in "bad boys" then why bother? Do you *want* to get involved in a long term relationship with someone like that? Life is already stuffed full of things to deal with and recalcitrant women with a penchant for likeminded men is certainly not something I'd want to have to cope with.

[LilJon]

i dont know what kind of guys she's interested in, and i don't intend on changing myself into anything that i'm not. i just find it disheartening at the fact that i struggle so much with girls in general.

[Emperor_Mike]

i dont know what kind of guys she's interested in, and i don't intend on changing myself into anything that i'm not. i just find it disheartening at the fact that i struggle so much with girls in general.

Well, many guys do. But if you find yourself jumping through hoops for a girl who may or may not be interested in your "type" it's usually a lost cause. Unless she's playing hard to get, the more work that's required of you to get her attention, the more unlikely it is that she's attracted to you. There's plenty of nice women to go around.

[moJo]

i know my input isn't necessarily wanted since this is in the men's forum, but i don't personally know any chicks that want 'bad' guys unless they have a few screws loose up there.

[LilJon]

Well, many guys do. But if you find yourself jumping through hoops for a girl who may or may not be interested in your "type" it's usually a lost cause. Unless she's playing hard to get, the more work that's required of you to get her attention, the more unlikely it is that she's attracted to you. There's plenty of nice women to go around.
i'm not jumping through hoops, i do things for her now and then, but she doesn't really ask or openly desire much that i can do or give
i don't think she's playing hard to get, i don't even care about getting her to like me in the same way anymore, i just want to get close. i guess my big problem is that i had a roommate last year who was really popular, and i wasnt... so i'm tired of being in his shadow, and now him and his friends are all friends with her and i think in a lot less time they're a lot closer. and things like that, really get on my nerves. seeing urself waste all this effort, when some1 else effortlessly comes along and makes it seem like nothing. and they don't give it a second thought.

[Emperor_Mike]

i'm not jumping through hoops, i do things for her now and then, but she doesn't really ask or openly desire much that i can do or give
i don't think she's playing hard to get, i don't even care about getting her to like me in the same way anymore, i just want to get close. i guess my big problem is that i had a roommate last year who was really popular, and i wasnt... so i'm tired of being in his shadow, and now him and his friends are all friends with her and i think in a lot less time they're a lot closer. and things like that, really get on my nerves. seeing urself waste all this effort, when some1 else effortlessly comes along and makes it seem like nothing. and they don't give it a second thought.

Not to worry. Just give it time. These things can't be forced, you know. Don't try *too* hard, however. Makes you look desperate.

Which hopefully you're not. At least, it doesn't sound like you are. Be yourself. Kinda goes without saying, yes?

[LilJon]

Not to worry. Just give it time. These things can't be forced, you know. Don't try *too* hard, however. Makes you look desperate.

Which hopefully you're not. At least, it doesn't sound like you are. Be yourself. Kinda goes without saying, yes?
meh, i just hate it how other people can accomplish with no trouble at all, what i've been trying for awhile to do.

[bluemonq]

been there, one, two , three...gave up count ::shrug:: sometimes you have to cut your losses. and i'm not going to lie: it will burn, especially right after you give up. everytime you see her, you're going to think, omg, why? and maybe you'll say, ok, maybe i should go back and try one more time.

don't. just walk away... (i know, it's easy for me to say, isn't it?)

[Emperor_Mike]

meh, i just hate it how other people can accomplish with no trouble at all, what i've been trying for awhile to do.

Have confidence in yourself.

[>:^|]

The belief that nice guys finish last
As a theory, is really half-assed.
"To thine's own self be true"
Is what you really need to do
Because otherwise you'll only be miscast.

[LilJon]

The belief that nice guys finish last
As a theory, is really half-assed.
"To thine's own self be true"
Is what you really need to do
Because otherwise you'll only be miscast.
i think i usually am true to myself, however, i don't really seem to find much luck in the social world. especially compared to people around me.

[fossilfuel]

Then I posted my problems on the net and almost got trampled by women. I didn't know what to do at first because I have never been in that situation.


What Internet is this? Surely not the one I use. People that post their problems online usually get ridiculed.

And of course female input is welcome on the men's forums. It's just like bathrooms - the ladies get pissed and when a guy enters their bathroom but guys don't bat an eye when a girl enters the men's room. :biggrin:

[lethal]

Alright...is anyone posting anything new that hasn't been said in the first 165 posts in this thread? If you don't have anything new to contribute, just stop.

[stunninglyAsian]

The older the girls you are interested get, the more demand you'll be in.

When we're young, we want to experiment and experience life. Nice is boring, nice is dull, nice is Friday night at home.

But once you have been cheated on, manipulated, taken advantage of, emotionally and/or physically hurt through your relationships, that's when nice guys begin to come into demand- you want somebody that will be around for you and will be honest and faithful to you.

[LilJon]

The older the girls you are interested get, the more demand you'll be in.

When we're young, we want to experiment and experience life. Nice is boring, nice is dull, nice is Friday night at home.

But once you have been cheated on, manipulated, taken advantage of, emotionally and/or physically hurt through your relationships, that's when nice guys begin to come into demand- you want somebody that will be around for you and will be honest and faithful to you.
i hope you're right.

[ellsworth81]

actually, i was being semi-serious. remind the women in your life that you have needs and need mental as well as sexual healing. sometimes, girls will ignore or forget that.

either way, rough deal. contrary to what others have said, i think female opinion is valued in this situation.

[LilJon]

actually, i was being semi-serious. remind the women in your life that you have needs and need mental as well as sexual healing. sometimes, girls will ignore or forget that.

either way, rough deal. contrary to what others have said, i think female opinion is valued in this situation.
errr im not going to ask a girl that im really not that close with, that i need sexual healing.

[stunninglyAsian]

errr im not going to ask a girl that im really not that close with, that i need sexual healing.

Lighten up- if you say it in the right way, like a silly joke, you can joke around with her and be semi-flirting with her at the same time.

But depends on the girl- if she's a churching going nun type... it's better not to do that.

[Kennyb]

Talk about digging a thread up from the past again.... It is such a myth like the first few pages have stated.

LilJon, some people who can accomplish within ease is just down to their confidence and working the right angle in knowing and liking the other half. Although there are some who can just click with others, that is just fate.

At your age, you should be out and about, meeting new people and enjoying yourself instead of thinking about these issues. Time will come when someone likes you and vice versa.

[LilJon]

Talk about digging a thread up from the past again.... It is such a myth like the first few pages have stated.

LilJon, some people who can accomplish within ease is just down to their confidence and working the right angle in knowing and liking the other half. Although there are some who can just click with others, that is just fate.

At your age, you should be out and about, meeting new people and enjoying yourself instead of thinking about these issues. Time will come when someone likes you and vice versa.
working on it... not much success so far, but definitely working on it...

[archspeed]

But depends on the girl- if she's a churching going nun type... it's better not to do that.
I just got PWNEDZ by one...I'm still hurting...but I'm moving on!!!!! YEAHHHHH!!!!

[Hiroshi2]

I was reading some men's magainze today and there was an interview on Christina Milian (the singer). They asked her, which type of man you like, gangsta or gentlemen (essentially, tough guy or nice guy) - and she said "dead smack in the middle." She said he'd have to be nice, but able to "put me in my place, because whether we admit or not, all girls want to be put in our place." Her words, not mine.

[Kennyb]

working on it... not much success so far, but definitely working on it...

Mate, that's not the attitude you should be in. Have some confidence - if they aren't the one, then ditch it, simple as that. Seeing someone does not always mean they are "the" one. :cool:

[archspeed]

Does it always have to be like that? If they "seems" not to be the one, we ditch them, simple as that? Isn't there always something else to it? They may "seem" not to be the one, but they could be?

Like as you say, "seeing someone does not always mean they are "the" one". Vice-versa, "seeing someone does not always mean they are NOT 'the' one".

I think there ought to be more researches into this thing we call "the middleground".

[LilJon]

Does it always have to be like that? If they "seems" not to be the one, we ditch them, simple as that? Isn't there always something else to it? They may "seem" not to be the one, but they could be?

Like as you say, "seeing someone does not always mean they are "the" one". Vice-versa, "seeing someone does not always mean they are NOT 'the' one".

I think there ought to be more researches into this thing we call "the middleground".
i agree that the middleground needs to be more clearly defined to the general population, in the meantime, i'm just trying to move on, it's not so much that she's not interested in me that hurts, its more the fact that this keeps happening.

[archspeed]

If you read the "I need help with an older girl" thread, you will know that I'm in a similar predicament, the girl I am interested in is only showing A LITTLE BIT of being interested, there's quite a chasm of differences between the two of us, one that both would really have to struggle to overcome, her more so than I. What I'm still figuring out is whether I like this girl enough to actually work at it and persuade her to give me (and herself) a chance to cross the chasm.

She has told through a friend of her that she still wants to be friend, would like to get to know me more, but would like lots of patience to go with it. She can ill-afford a hasty relationship at this point in her life, so she says.

Forgive me for not "playing" the game here. But once in a while we will come upon a woman who doesn't care for the game, and only how much honesty (and patience) a guy will show. I have a feeling this girl is of that type. And yeah you guys can all go on about "yeah, for real man, whatever, you're just fluking it", but sometimes you gotta trespass that "game" barrier and just be honest with your feelings.

I like this girl. She has no idea what the hell to do with me. My goal is to figure out some way to get her to give herself a chance to figure out what the hell to do with me. Honest to God, this one is going to be the worst of every girls I've came upon, the dreaded "be patient with me" kind of girl. Pointless? Worthless to try? Hell yeah, everyone says so. But I'll take the risk this one time and hope it works out...

[draconisz]

not trying to be a swinger, just trying to understand and be able to befriend girls with more ease.

Just keep trying, it will come. But I am just warning you. There are plenty of lonely women out there and they are very special people. And soon you are going to be in unfamiliar territory longing for those days when you were supposedly "lonely".

Men. . .it doesn't matter what their background, don't really know what it's like to be a lonely female.