Asian Males with White Woman

[Fireblade]

Please refrain from posting about af/wm analogies... I need no more headaches.

There seems to be a sense of anti-sentiment amongst some people of IR relationships. However, when posting about Asian Males with White Females, there seems to be a "double-standard" about how they are treated. I don't ever see people accusing the guy of being a sell-out or the woman being a "phile" of any sort. I just want to know what you guys think of this, and you percieve all of it.

From my point of view, so long as the people involved are not attracted to a person solely on novelty, they are not sell-outs or philes in my book.

[mr. x]

good topic though its been sorta done but not as done as the vice versa

anyway yeah its a "numbers" game cuz of course theres a disparity between AF/WM and AM/WF. of course if i were to say, date a blonde then whatever im just dating a blonde but if 500 other asian guys did the same all of a sudden i become suspect, im just with her cuz im a europhile or whatever.

reminds me of this thing where a guy in my area got pulled over cuz an asian guy just robbed a bank or something and the description was "asian male in a honda civic" :D

i mean that coulda been ME if i was in the wrong place at the wrong time. i didnt choose a honda the honda chose me. what other people drive doesnt even concern me

[stunninglyAsian]

I see it like this- AM have such a bad image in society and there is big discrepancy in IR dating, so we're the underdogs. So if one of us actually dates a white girl, everybody roots for him. AM root for him because we see it as "sticking it to da man" and we tend to think if we can make it with a WF, then we should be able to get any AF. We then see ourselves as on a level playing field with the other WM. For men, there are no philes- if she wants to put out because she likes "Oriental culture", then... it's all good.

And AF, the ones I know fall into 2 responses- a) the ones that could care less and think more AM should be going IR, so they praise him for not being another bitter AM complaining about the WM/AF couple, specifically theirs and b) the ones date only AM and now don't know what to make of him, they're shocked, disgusted, curious, and slightly attracted to see an AM make it with a WF.

[shy]

anyway yeah its a "numbers" game cuz of course theres a disparity between AF/WM and AM/WF. of course if i were to say, date a blonde then whatever im just dating a blonde but if 500 other asian guys did the same all of a sudden i become suspect, im just with her cuz im a europhile or whatever.

i'm sure the numbers play some role.

as for the 'phile' part, i think it's also because it's easier seeing non-asian men as 'asiaphiles' because women have been known to be the object of being used... especially sexually (though this shouldn't be an excuse to generalize men and make these assumptions about them just because they are with an asian woman).

and so i think perhaps this transfers over to these ''asian women chasing men'.. some who are being slime-balls. but unfortunately, some are just generally interested in the asian woman that they are chasing. and they get lumped with these other slime balls.

[John0101]

Good call about the double standard.

Sometimes when I see a really whitewashed asian guy w/white girl I think he only got a white girl only because he's whitewashed and it would of been a totally different story if he didn't try so hard to hide his asianness.

[nonamerasian]

I see it like this- AM have such a bad image in society and there is big discrepancy in IR dating, so we're the underdogs. So if one of us actually dates a white girl, everybody roots for him. AM root for him because we see it as "sticking it to da man" and we tend to think if we can make it with a WF, then we should be able to get any AF. We then see ourselves as on a level playing field with the other WM. For men, there are no philes- if she wants to put out because she likes "Oriental culture", then... it's all good.

People are feeling self-worth is determined by whether they can have sex with a White female (stick it to the man) and that isn’t seen as sad?

I’m an outsider, but to me that reeks of a self-esteem problem.

Nothing to receive a thumbs up for.

[ChairmanMah]

i had several white gf's but i feel a better connection with asians.

I also feel a bit uncomfortable with the white family gatherings being the only asian guy there. And so much white ignorance i get annoyed.

[Fireblade]

People are feeling self-worth is determined by whether they can have sex with a White female (stick it to the man) and that isn’t seen as sad?

I’m an outsider, but to me that reeks of a self-esteem problem.

Nothing to receive a thumbs up for.

If you can kinda see how people have dealt with interracial relationships in the past, mainly of the "colored" man with the white female, it was often obstructed due to societies hold over what is accepted in the media and what isn't. I guess it's more of a social hurdle that colored men see in general, and if one actually makes it over, then there is an acceptance of it from that person's community.

I agree that it's nothing to root for. That's just stupid. I would rather congratulate the couple for ignoring what other people though, and just let them be.

[ChairmanMah]

i'll admit that i'm whitewashed quite a bit too since i had no second thoughts at all about having a white gf because that was all that was available in my area as a teen.

As i grew older, there seemed to be more and more hot asian chicks around so i decided that's the route i should go.

i'll even say that i would still fool around with white chix but probly nothing serious. and i'm not promoting a double standard. I did not say AF's cant do this, i just don't like certain screwed up ones (ie. self haters, asian dissers, trophys, philes, mail order brides and exploitation etc.)

[mrazntre]

i'll admit that i'm whitewashed quite a bit too since i had no second thoughts at all about having a white gf because that was all that was available in my area as a teen.



wow! this explains a lot!

[nonamerasian]

If you can kinda see how people have dealt with interracial relationships in the past, mainly of the "colored" man with the white female, it was often obstructed due to societies hold over what is accepted in the media and what isn't. I guess it's more of a social hurdle that colored men see in general, and if one actually makes it over, then there is an acceptance of it from that person's community.

I agree that it's nothing to root for. That's just stupid. I would rather congratulate the couple for ignoring what other people though, and just let them be.

Overcoming years of negativity towards mixed relationships is one thing, but that doesn’t seem to be what he said was being congratulated. It seemed more along the lines of congratulating a guy for obtaining a "trophy," a White women.

That’s why I hinted to an inferiority complex.

Whether a guy has relations with a White woman, or has stuck it to "da man," isn’t a healthy means of determining one’s worth.

[missmeow]

Overcoming years of negativity towards mixed relationships is one thing, but that doesn’t seem to be what he said was being congratulated. It seemed more along the lines of congratulating a guy for obtaining a "trophy," a White women.

It seemed that way to me too. Sorry boys, white women aren't trophies, we're people. Congratulating someone for scoring some white poon is no better than the white boys who chase Asian women because they heard something about ping-pong balls and ancient Chinese sex secrets.



Whether a guy has relations with a White woman, or has stuck it to "da man," isn’t a healthy means of determining one’s worth.


Nope it isn't. Getting into a relationship with someone just to stick it to "da man" is unhealthy and downright hateful.

[kimpossible]

From my point of view, so long as the people involved are not attracted to a person solely on novelty, they are not sell-outs or philes in my book.

I don't even really care if 'they' really are sell-outs or philes in the first place. Just as long as they keep it on the dl and don't try to make an extra big deal out of their IR. That's one of my pet peeves about IR in general, regardless of which gender is of which race, people making a bigger deal out of it than it is.

[Cipherous]

[QUOTE=missmeow]It seemed that way to me too. Sorry boys, white women aren't trophies, we're people. Congratulating someone for scoring some white poon is no better than the white boys who chase Asian women because they heard something about ping-pong balls and ancient Chinese sex secrets.
QUOTE]

ping pong balls? I can understand being good at gymnastics correlating to good sex but ping pong?

I dunno...I may have to seek one out myself to settle the myth.

[stunninglyAsian]

People are feeling self-worth is determined by whether they can have sex with a White female (stick it to the man) and that isn’t seen as sad?

I’m an outsider, but to me that reeks of a self-esteem problem.

Nothing to receive a thumbs up for.

It is a self-esteem problem. It's not good for AM to think like this, but that's how I've seen a lot of AM react toward IR relationships.

[Deadpool]

Please refrain from posting about af/wm analogies... I need no more headaches.

There seems to be a sense of anti-sentiment amongst some people of IR relationships. However, when posting about Asian Males with White Females, there seems to be a "double-standard" about how they are treated. I don't ever see people accusing the guy of being a sell-out or the woman being a "phile" of any sort. I just want to know what you guys think of this, and you percieve all of it.

From my point of view, so long as the people involved are not attracted to a person solely on novelty, they are not sell-outs or philes in my book.

Probably because I rarely, if ever, see them.

[mr. x]

My cousin Robert married April, a beautiful blonde haired green eyed woman. They have a lot in common - same goals, personality types, circle of friends, lifestyles (they prefer the fast-paced city life), etc. My family never questioned why he got married to her. Neither do his friends.

My friend Mao (Cambodian) is dating this Italian-American girl. They get along great. Both are members of the "fashion police". LOL All my friends agree that they complement each other well.

IR dating is increasingly socially-accepted to the point of being banal. It doesn't even qualify as a trend anymore, in my opinion, because it is just so pervasive. Nobody can stop it.

not that it matters, but are your cousins mixed as well, or ummm fully asian

[Proud_Jook_Sing]

Probably because I rarely, if ever, see them.
It happens alot, even here in Phoenix. Seems that Asians tend to frequent malls and Costco/Sam's Club in Phoenix so I look around and see plenty of AM/non-AFs (not as many as WM/AF but it's not that lopsided.)

I'd say it would happen even more if AMs decided to ask more non-Asian women they find attractive out. Lack of confidence holds alot of guys back.

[John0101]

It happens alot, even here in Phoenix. Seems that Asians tend to frequent malls and Costco/Sam's Club in Phoenix so I look around and see plenty of AM/non-AFs (not as many as WM/AF but it's not that lopsided.)

My immediate side of the family has 5 married Chinese guys, 3/5 are to non-AFs.

wow, one day I bet it will be common for people to be 1/16-1/2 asian. Can only happen in America folks!

[Proud_Jook_Sing]

wow, one day I bet it will be common for people to be 1/16-1/2 asian. Can only happen in America folks!
Shhh, that's the secret Asian plan. We are absorbing the white folk! ;)

[John0101]

Shhh, that's the secret Asian plan. We are absorbing the white folk! ;)

hahahha I like that, the Yellow Plague!

[golden_buns]

This topic isn't that much of an issue cuz there aren't that many AM/WF relationships, but it certainly become a big issue if the rates of IR would get higher

[John0101]

This topic isn't that much of an issue cuz there aren't that many AM/WF relationships, but it certainly become a big issue if the rates of IR would get higher

isn't there a statistic like that 1/3 of asian men marry non-asians? thats pretty high to me. I'm sure "asian" to the gov. is much more then chinese, jap, koreans, etc, so the statistic might be inflated.

[SunWuKong]

I don't even really care if 'they' really are sell-outs or philes in the first place. Just as long as they keep it on the dl and don't try to make an extra big deal out of their IR. That's one of my pet peeves about IR in general, regardless of which gender is of which race, people making a bigger deal out of it than it is.

amen to that. i am just as annoyed with rants about IRs as i am with glorification of IRs as some sort social progressiveness.

[shy]

IR dating is increasingly socially-accepted to the point of being banal. It doesn't even qualify as a trend anymore, in my opinion, because it is just so pervasive. Nobody can stop it.

i concur, yo! :P

[ChairmanMah]

amen to that. i am just as annoyed with rants about IRs as i am with glorification of IRs as some sort social progressiveness.

i agree, tell them to shut da fug up.

For them because they wanna date out, it's like they excuse their actions as becoming some kind of worldly diverse person but in reality they're completely whitewashed and covering their shame to justify their actions. puhleeze.

[ChairmanMah]

remember the "born again asians thread" well in alot of cases there's no "born again"

[shy]

i agree, tell them to shut da fug up.

For them because they wanna date out, it's like they excuse their actions as becoming some kind of worldly diverse person but in reality they're completely whitewashed and covering their shame to justify their actions. puhleeze.

umm... he also said that he's tired of people ranting about IR-coupling. sort of like what you are starting to do (again).

[kitty]

I wonder -- do you think most people in IR relationships think they are worldly or diversity-minded? Or is is the negative perception of people in IR relationships thinking that they are doing it so that other people will think of them as worldly...?

And yeah, keep it on the d/l, but while it is becoming more numerous to the point of being banal, there are still many people in many different cultures who don't accept it. So I think don't go to the highest cliff and shout it out, but sometimes ppl accuse you of doing so when you are acting normally about your IR relationship as one would about a non-IR relationship. Sometimes people notice it more... and then think that they noticed it because the people in the IR relationship are trying to shove it in people's faces...

[nonamerasian]

I wonder -- do you think most people in IR relationships think they are worldly or diversity-minded? Or is is the negative perception of people in IR relationships thinking that they are doing it so that other people will think of them as worldly...?

And yeah, keep it on the d/l, but while it is becoming more numerous to the point of being banal, there are still many people in many different cultures who don't accept it. So I think don't go to the highest cliff and shout it out, but sometimes ppl accuse you of doing so when you are acting normally about your IR relationship as one would about a non-IR relationship. Sometimes people notice it more... and then think that they noticed it because the people in the IR relationship are trying to shove it in people's faces...

Amen.

[shy]

I wonder -- do you think most people in IR relationships think they are worldly or diversity-minded? Or is is the negative perception of people in IR relationships thinking that they are doing it so that other people will think of them as worldly...?

And yeah, keep it on the d/l, but while it is becoming more numerous to the point of being banal, there are still many people in many different cultures who don't accept it. So I think don't go to the highest cliff and shout it out, but sometimes ppl accuse you of doing so when you are acting normally about your IR relationship as one would about a non-IR relationship. Sometimes people notice it more... and then think that they noticed it because the people in the IR relationship are trying to shove it in people's faces...

good point...

honestly, all the couples i know in IR-relationships do not see themselves as being more wordly or diversity-minded. they do not flaunt nor hide that they are in an IR-relationship. in fact, i honestly don't think they spend much time even thinking about it except when they are being forced to.

it's actually more simple then IR-ranting people would like to believe... it's basically about two people falling in love with each other and wanting to be with one another.

[kimpossible]

And yeah, keep it on the d/l, but while it is becoming more numerous to the point of being banal, there are still many people in many different cultures who don't accept it. So I think don't go to the highest cliff and shout it out, but sometimes ppl accuse you of doing so when you are acting normally about your IR relationship as one would about a non-IR relationship. Sometimes people notice it more... and then think that they noticed it because the people in the IR relationship are trying to shove it in people's faces...

You know, crazy as this sounds, but I actually get some IR 'groupies.' People who take the time out to communicate with me in some manner because they're in IR and want to bond. Or whatever.

[moJo]

honestly, all the couples i know in IR-relationships do not see themselves as being more wordly or diversity-minded. they do not flaunt nor hide that they are in an IR-relationship. in fact, i honestly don't think they spend much time even thinking about it except when they are being forced to.

it's actually more simple then IR-ranting people would like to believe... it's basically about two people falling in love with each other and wanting to be with one another.
well put. personally, i don't think about it unless it's brought up by other people. i don't even go out of my way to talk about it on asian american forums. hehe, until now. whoops. anyway, i don't see my current relationship as anything special or worldly in comparison to my previous relationship, which was with a taiwanese american guy. i only know a few other IR couples, and none seem to flaunt their IR.

but i don't doubt that there are people in IR who flaunt it. especially when one of the party is white since there's the whole white-is-right thing in our society.

[kitty]

I think the very word 'flaunting' is sort of silly... I mean... why would *anybody* flaunt their relationship, unless they don't take it that seriously in the first place?

and groupies? that's just sad.

[mrazntre]

You know, crazy as this sounds, but I actually get some IR 'groupies.' People who take the time out to communicate with me in some manner because they're in IR and want to bond. Or whatever.

HAHA.. and they're all black. :laugh:

[mr. x]

You know, crazy as this sounds, but I actually get some IR 'groupies.' People who take the time out to communicate with me in some manner because they're in IR and want to bond. Or whatever.

like in one of those boring cocktail parties?

or is it like "hey we saw you down the street, keep it interacial! (does the hand signal)"

[BeTheReds]

Hi mom and dad!

[SunWuKong]

well to be honest, i'm not sure i've ever seen any instances of glorification of IRs in real life. i've only seen that type of stuff on the web. but most of the people who do that are jackasses anyway. here's one of my favourite comments:

I think it is valid to say that you only want to date someone within your race culture because what others have said are right, family and friends play into it. I don't really care about that factor much personally, but some do. It is just as valid of a criterion for dating as wanting to date a woman with blonde hair or big tits.

[mr. x]

i was reading up about Charlotte Sometimes and the dude who wrote it is mixed, and the MM guys didnt like him one bit and one guy said something like "yeah well u look pretty white thats cuz your dad's white and russell wong looks more asian cuz his dad is asian therefore the dominant gene"

and im thinking "umm i dont remember reading that part in the science book"

[Fireblade]

i was reading up about Charlotte Sometimes and the dude who wrote it is mixed, and the MM guys didnt like him one bit and one guy said something like "yeah well u look pretty white thats cuz your dad's white and russell wong looks more asian cuz his dad is asian therefore the dominant gene"

and im thinking "umm i dont remember reading that part in the science book"

It's shit like this, is one reason why I don't want people to make comparisions about who's better or what-not. For one thing, the guy who wrote it, actually tried his best to make his prescence known in society, and letting more people be avidly aware of an asian american culture within this society. If they're being bigots about declaring what's superior or what-not, I'm just glad I don't see it here on this forum.

(I mean I do, but not as much.)

[John0101]

Hi mom and dad!

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[missmeow]

You know, crazy as this sounds, but I actually get some IR 'groupies.' People who take the time out to communicate with me in some manner because they're in IR and want to bond. Or whatever.

Is it because they are being weird or because they want to talk to someone with perhaps the same experiences as them? If it's their first IR, I can kind of understand that because a lot of things are new to them (like dealing with family, etc.).

But then again, why the hell do you want to talk to some stranger just because you're in an IR too?

[deez nuts]

you mean keeping a scrapbook of souvenirs of all the bitches you banged is a bad idea?

[SunWuKong]

Hi mom and dad!?

his mom is white and his dad is Korean.

[kimpossible]

like in one of those boring cocktail parties?

or is it like "hey we saw you down the street, keep it interacial! (does the hand signal)"

No one that we know personally. I think I've told these stories before, so nothing new here for those of you who have already heard.

Situation 1
Nice romantic dinner out for Mr. HH and I. We rarely get serious alone time, nature of being responsible parties for family, so we guard it rather jealously. Anyhow, our conversation was interrupted by this guy in front of us turning around to get our attention. We stopped because the guy was blocking our path, turned back towards us. Once he turned back I realized he was Asian. That bastard gave some sort of bullshit macho high five acknowledgement to my husband, it was like a head nod, wink and little laugh, and once turned around I saw his date was a white chick, who I think was equally dumbfounded as to what the fuck her date was doing. I hope she dumped him for that.

Oh god that pissed me off on so many levels. I get angry just thinking about it.

Situation 2
Standing in line at Blockbuster, renting some movie. Anyhow, white lady in front of me, I was holding a spot in line while my husband was making one last pass for better movies. Doubtless I was zoning out, planning dinner in my head, wishing the line would move faster, stuff like that. My husband came back probably without another movie, to wait in line with me. I think we were talking about what we were going to do with the rest of the night when the lady says to us "No cutting in line." Keep in mind we're behind her. I think I said either "What?" or "Pardon?" with the tone of what the hell is your problem, but all she did was smile in return and keep looking at us. At that point I might have been wondering if she was mildly retarded or just... nuts, but she started up with more conversation making about nothing. I couldn't figure out why she kept wanting to talk to us when her hurking huge, obviously half-Asian son comes bounding up to her.



So there you go. Amusing tales for the day.

[kitty]

hehe...

the only time i've encountered a 'groupie'... is when i was in line with my bf for a movie and in walks a teenaged couple, the guy was black, the girl was asian. The guy looks at us, does a doubletake with his mouth open... kinda like he'd never seen another BM/AF couple before. Then he moved on.

End of story...

Although one thing I've noticed is that a lot of people who i meet for the first time will be like "oh my god, I've seen you around everywhere!!" (keep in mind, big campus, tiny town)... and it's because they recognize me and the bf as the only BM/AF couple on campus that they've seen... it's kinda sad really...

[ChairmanMah]

it would help to learn to write and speak english properly, but who am i to criticize, i can't write chinese and I speak cantonese at the level of a toddler.

[kimpossible]

***taken care of***

[Fireblade]

Did someone snip?? THANK YOU.

Let's just stop the b.s. and just keep to topic.

[SunWuKong]

the thread has been split. (http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=11239)

i apologise for the childishness on my part.

[Napoleon Chynamite]

Up until the past few years, I've always felt more comfortable with white women than asian women due to familiarity, it's just where you grow up. Yea, the stigma and stereotypes are there but they never affected me that much, and frankly there are stereotypes assigned to basically every single group in the dating scene, so I'm not really complaining.

I also don't think that Asian women are portrayed any better or worse than Asian men. Actually, I think being objectified and/or seen as exotic/passive/meek tigresses or trophy girlfriends (for those who think this is a huge problem in our society for AFs) is arguably worse than being seen as asexual or whatever. Additionally, both AF and AM's are stereotyped as passive and weak or as sneaky or conniving, according to most Asian forums online.

Also, it's not as if Asian people (or other minority groups) don't generalize or stereotype white people, both in the area of relationships or otherwise. It's just that the white people are the majority in America so obviously the stereotypes and prejudice held by whites cause the largest ripples. If anything, I find that many Asian guys are unwilling to date white women whereas Asian girls are more open-minded, in addition to the fact that many more white guys are more open about hitting on girls (white, asian, or whatever) than asian guys. Regardless of race or ethnicity, it is often the guy who is supposed to approach the girl first. I don't think I'd be exaggerating (at least in my experiences) to say that an Asian American girl (in a fairly diverse community such as a college campus in the middle of a big city) is more likely to get hit on by white men than by asian men. Yet at the same time as Ali Baba has proved time and time again, excluding Korean and Filipino Americans, there is virtually no outmarriage disparity between males and females among the Asian American groups in the US.

Just putting in my two cents since this type of thread seems to pop up at least once every month ^^

[Deadpool]

If anything, I find that many Asian guys are unwilling to date white women

I concur. Al my friends are Asian and not one of them claims to like White women but deep down I know they would hit it with all speed if they got the chance.

[kimpossible]

Although one thing I've noticed is that a lot of people who i meet for the first time will be like "oh my god, I've seen you around everywhere!!" (keep in mind, big campus, tiny town)... and it's because they recognize me and the bf as the only BM/AF couple on campus that they've seen... it's kinda sad really...

Don't hate me but that's funny. :)

[mr. x]

hehe...

the only time i've encountered a 'groupie'... is when i was in line with my bf for a movie and in walks a teenaged couple, the guy was black, the girl was asian. The guy looks at us, does a doubletake with his mouth open... kinda like he'd never seen another BM/AF couple before. Then he moved on.

End of story...

Although one thing I've noticed is that a lot of people who i meet for the first time will be like "oh my god, I've seen you around everywhere!!" (keep in mind, big campus, tiny town)... and it's because they recognize me and the bf as the only BM/AF couple on campus that they've seen... it's kinda sad really...

yah but the fundamental fact that makes IR couples such a hotspot is that they stand out.

its like this

"black-black, asian-asian, white-white, WTF BLACK-ASIAN!?!?!"

[kitty]

Don't hate me but that's funny. :)

:laugh:... i know...

[kitty]

"black-black, asian-asian, white-white, WTF BLACK-ASIAN!?!?!"

you make it sound like they have heart attacks on the spot... like people are dying left and right as I walk by. :laugh:

[ric 3]

you make it sound like they have heart attacks on the spot... like people are dying left and right as I walk by. :laugh:


Well your relationship is very small in comparison to typical ones we alwasy see. Have ppl given you grief about it. Just say look Im blackphile and he is asianphile when groupies come by again. sure to get some laughs


why is this thread even debatable? I don't think we can compare AFs with AMs becasue neither share same plane to begin with historical, socially or even with racism/stereotypes labels to begin with. You can only compare that one is more lobesided than others . sorry to those who are from mm.com have to hear this again

[mrazntre]

you mean keeping a scrapbook of souvenirs of all the bitches you banged is a bad idea?

Show THAT to a girlfriend and see what happens.

[lethal]

sorry to those who are from mm.com have to hear this again

Sorry to those from mm? This ain't mm. Jeez...if you don't want to hear it, get the fuck out of here.

[ric 3]

Sorry to those from mm? This ain't mm. Jeez...if you don't want to hear it, get the fuck out of here.


don't want to hear what? made my point and as well as asking those who talked about these issues b4 on mm.com b4 , since thats my take on this IR situation when it comes to comparing two

there are mm ppls here you know

geeez

[amietron]

don't want to hear what? made my point and as well as asking those who talked about these issues b4 on mm.com b4 , since thats my take on this IR situation when it comes to comparing two

there are mm ppls here you know

geeez
doesn't matter if you're from mm. this is yw. i think that was made pretty clear. if you don't like it, you don't have to post here.

[Fireblade]

MM and YW are different web communities. All we're asking is that what is being reviewed here doesn't necessarily take the same light as the ones in MM. So we're having this discussion out for the people who do participate in YW. Not for those who frequent MM.

[darkguard]

Up until the past few years, I've always felt more comfortable with white women than asian women due to familiarity, it's just where you grow up. Yea, the stigma and stereotypes are there but they never affected me that much, and frankly there are stereotypes assigned to basically every single group in the dating scene, so I'm not really complaining.
If anything, I find that many Asian guys are unwilling to date white women whereas Asian girls are more open-minded, in addition to the fact that many more white guys are more open about hitting on girls (white, asian, or whatever) than asian guys. Regardless of race or ethnicity, it is often the guy who is supposed to approach the girl first. I don't think I'd be exaggerating (at least in my experiences) to say that an Asian American girl (in a fairly diverse community such as a college campus in the middle of a big city) is more likely to get hit on by white men than by asian men. Yet at the same time as Ali Baba has proved time and time again, excluding Korean and Filipino Americans, there is virtually no outmarriage disparity between males and females among the Asian American groups in the US.


I agree with most of the things you wrote Looks like there are many non whites who want to become like whites and marry whites
Now I wish I am a white
What is the reason for only excluding Korean and Flips To fix the result ?

[deez nuts]

Show THAT to a girlfriend and see what happens.


:laugh:

[ric 3]

Fire and amie
You ppl don't read I talking to those who are part of mm.com to excuse my yak on this subject matter. Not on whether the subject theme validlity which is a perfect topic of discussion esp when subject of those sellout AM is part of subject.

[lethal]

If you want to talk to people from mm, try...I dunno...talking to them on mm? And maybe use punctuation and better grammar?

[ric 3]

I give up.... you guys are right and I am wrong OK? Spongebob

LAME if you want to read what i meant how about actually reading what i actually said . if you r not mm member why bother to respond then

[ric 3]

well put. personally, i don't think about it unless it's brought up by other people. i don't even go out of my way to talk about it on asian american forums. hehe, until now. whoops. anyway, i don't see my current relationship as anything special or worldly in comparison to my previous relationship, which was with a taiwanese american guy. i only know a few other IR couples, and none seem to flaunt their IR.

but i don't doubt that there are people in IR who flaunt it. especially when one of the party is white since there's the whole white-is-right thing in our society.


Of course is still somewhat issuse becasue relationships do fall into visual realm esp Bf/GF types. It doesn't matter becasue it is already part of your visual theshold of tolerance, that doesn't mean it you don't actually see difference in visuals context. We do make a big deal out of visual aesthetics since its part of value system of being human. those who say they don't notice the visuals contexts are in denial or brainwashed. The problem is those who place some value system on what they see in ppl or inanimate objects

[lethal]

I give up.... you guys are right and I am wrong OK? Spongebob

LAME if you want to read what i meant how about actually reading what i actually said . if you r not mm member why bother to respond then

I moderate this forum, that's why I respond.

[shy]

Fire and amie
You ppl don't read I talking to those who are part of mm.com to excuse my yak on this subject matter. Not on whether the subject theme validlity which is a perfect topic of discussion esp when subject of those sellout AM is part of subject.

crap.. i have no idea what's going on... but as far as mm.com, i know i can't speak for the admin but one of them DID ask some else to tone down the comparison between the two sites.

and you know what? i can sort of see why.. i mean, yes, you might have some valid points but from what learned, you might make it a pain in the ass for the people who work hard running this place if they get people coming from mm.com to start their bitching here if word gets out that they are being dissed here.

it's not fair to either board admins. my advice is that if you wish to refer to a personal experience from another board, keep that board's name anonymous.

[Fireblade]

ric 3 -

We bother to respond to people from MM, because we are entitled to say something if we feel we can contribute. Man, I don't want this thread to degenerate into another long fricking post topic about people from YW and MM.

Keep to the subject man. You got some points that speak for themselves based on visual asthetics. I believe that some of this is accepted in society, when it comes to IR relationships. But because a lot of the media we see doesn't quite necessarily represent a fair amount of colored people, we (or in my own opinon) feel as though society is quite accepting of AF/WM relationships. That isn't my point. The point is that until we see more previliant AM + [insert whatever ethnicity] pairings in popular media, we will continue to bitch about how we don't get this or that. At least in my point of view.

[lethal]

I'm into exams the next few weeks, so don't get on my bad side cause the fuse is gonna be short and this forum is not a place to mess around with me these next few weeks.

Don't make me do something rash like spout off on tax codes or corporate governance law or something equally inane.

[ric 3]

I'm into exams the next few weeks, so don't get on my bad side cause the fuse is gonna be short and this forum is not a place to mess around with me these next few weeks.

Don't make me do something rash like spout off on tax codes or corporate governance law or something equally inane.


So i have exams as well and experiments I not losing my cool. Just frustrated that my intent was to say sorry for bringing up my side of agrument which those on other site heard plenty from me. sorry

I do believe most do agree with me on that other site we can't compared the two pairings of WM/AF and AM/WF due to social context as well as how one paired( WM/AF) was sorta born from something that became maybe effect of it which is cause of AM/WF pairings. We do need to make clear of AM sellouts who diss Afs in same manner of some AFs do with AM. <------thats really utouched issue i haven't seen too much of

[lethal]

So i have exams as well and experiments I not losing my cool. Just frustrated that my intent was to say sorry for bringing up my side of agrument which those on other site heard plenty from me. sorry

You're not in law school, buddy. Your exams don't involve going to court and arguing in front of judges with the lives of your clients at stake.

Also, in these parts, you're in my domain. Deal with it. If you want to talk about MM stuff to MM people, do it at MM.

If you want to talk about this topic do it. Otherwise, don't give me an excuse to bitch you out. Oh and quote me "losing my cool." I don't think you'll find it here. It was a warning to you not to give me an excuse to chop off your tongue. Again, deal with it.

[ric 3]

Fine ....

well if you want to rant about tests I have experiments to do as well
law school? how about dealing with cancer patients? lasers? how about huge DB to manage as well as cloning and structure determination of proteins. Law is static knowledge

anyways I understand

[kimpossible]

hey, what was this thread about again?

[mr. x]

hey, what was this thread about again?

how white women are stealing sellout manslut asian guys who like white pussy and what the implications of this are to the race as a whole

[Fireblade]

how white women are stealing sellout manslut asian guys who like white pussy and what the implications of this are to the race as a whole
:cry:

am I a manslut sellout asian guy?

[mr. x]

:cry:

am I a manslut sellout asian guy?

are u with a white girl?

awright! (gives high five)

[Fireblade]

are u with a white girl?

awright! (gives high five)

no. I was dating some, but only in the past.

Ex-manslut asian sellout I guess? :rolleyes:

[lethal]

well if you want to rant about tests I have experiments to do as well
law school? how about dealing with cancer patients? lasers? how about huge DB to manage as well as cloning and structure determination of proteins. Law is static knowledge

Been there, done that. Cancer patients, lasers, arrays...didn't do it for me.

Static knowledge...whatever you want to think in your world, buddy. Whatever you want to think.

This thread's over.