your pick: passion or stability [Archive]

Arex

07-31-2002, 02:06 AM

Hahaha. You provide us those two choices as if they're mutually exclusive...or are they?? I agree with SunWuKang...both have their places. Right now, give me passion. Hell, I'm young and resilient and could use some excitement and passion in my otherwise boring-as-fuck life. Later on down the road? Call me practical, or a coward, but I think when it's time to settle down, stability is more important. At that point, you've got other considerations such as children and growing old together to worry about. There're waaaaaay too many people getting divorced nowadays and too many children getting fucked over as a result. Of course, like I said at the beginning, hopefully the two aren't mutually exclusive so you can have a passionate relationship that's still relatively stable and a stable relationship that's still passion filled.

Alex

kasia

07-31-2002, 02:16 AM

no, no. i said to pick one. :wink:

Arex

07-31-2002, 02:18 AM

And so I did: one for now, one for later.=)

Obviously, if I had to pick one forever, I'd go with the one that'll be more important to me later on down the road, i.e., stability, and for the reasons stated above.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that later on down the road, stability is important because the last thing that I want is for my other half to ditch me when I'm old and crusty. Of course, the young lasses may come flocking for the fortune that I anticipate having at such time, but who wants that?? Certainly not me!=)

Alex

wylin

07-31-2002, 12:40 PM

i pick stability. girls i know w/ lotsa passion tend to die down the passion ceases and love ceases. The clique the candle that burns so brightly burns so quickly...

i want a woman whose confident and knows what she wants and knows things in moderation are more stable and more meaningful in the long run..?

its like comparing wat car u want.

do u want the S2000 high rev unstable and passionate or u want a BMW 330i common stable and competent. which will u love in long run

kasia

07-31-2002, 05:07 PM

even if stability meant no passion whatsoever?

wylin

07-31-2002, 05:18 PM

[quote:cc07b51260="kasia"]even if stability meant no passion whatsoever?[/quote:cc07b51260]

nothing viagra and alcohol cant fix, if shez super stable and no passion.

if shez super pasionate and drama; Rittalin and Extasy gods gift to trippy and angry ppl. =X

Arex

07-31-2002, 05:45 PM

[quote:fa92ebc7f0="kasia"]even if stability meant no passion whatsoever?[/quote:fa92ebc7f0]

Yes, for the reasons stated above.

Alex

kasia

08-01-2002, 04:28 PM

[quote:890e1e52c6="Arex"][quote:890e1e52c6="kasia"]even if stability meant no passion whatsoever?[/quote:890e1e52c6]

Yes, for the reasons stated above.

Alex[/quote:890e1e52c6]

i'd rather die.

Arex

08-02-2002, 12:16 AM

[quote:988636314c="kasia"]i'd rather die.[/quote:988636314c]

Well thanks! I've been single for almost two years now (and not necessarily happily, mind you). That said, I assume that being in a completely passionless relationship can't be any worse than the present state of my love life. Nevertheless, even if I knew that I would never be in another relationship, I think I'd still rather live out the rest of my life in this state than die.=)

Alex

deez nuts

08-02-2002, 06:14 AM

Heh, hard question.

I think right now I rather have stability and maybe work on passion as we go along.

tapestrybabe

08-02-2002, 01:26 PM

i had been single for 28 years straight. But within those 28 yrs.. i've had a variety of crushes and infatuations. And I've has 2 serious love interests of mine. And how do I know that they were serious?? cuz i ended up crying when i found out they had interests in another girl...

Anyways, it was only last year.. when i was 29, when i experienced my first relationship. And it was ok-- it only last for about 3 months, so i dont think it was that serious, i dont think i was truly in love with him. And this is how i feel... being in love is different than being in a relationship. You can be in love with someone and not be in a relationship with them. And then you can be in a relationship with someone and not necessarily be in love with them... But anyhow... when i think of my relationship.. vs. my 2 serious love interests of mine... i think more about my 2 serious love interests of mine... than my relationship i had just last year...

Me, I think i would pick passion over stability.. When i think of passion.. i love all the emotions that come with it... I'd rather be able to experience what being in love feels like... rather than being in a stable relationship with no passion at all...

SunWuKong

08-02-2002, 02:07 PM

question:

how is passion defined here?

tapestrybabe

08-02-2002, 02:19 PM

[quote:00e0ac4ac2="SunWuKung"]question:

how is passion defined here?[/quote:00e0ac4ac2]

Oh, I kinda viewed it as in terms of love. Like really, deeply, passionately loving someone... Like being head over heels over another person. Like thats how I felt with my 2 serious love interests of mine.. Even tho, i found out that they had interests in other girls... i still liked them in such an intense way, i still wanted them... And its that more those intense, emotional, burning feelings of being in love that i would rather experience..... than being in a stable relationship with sex, without the love and passion of it all...

thaite

08-02-2002, 04:04 PM

You can run. You can hide. But. You can't. Escape. My love. :twisted:

SunWuKong

08-02-2002, 04:13 PM

[quote:e7eac3dfe9="Tapestrybabe"][quote:e7eac3dfe9="SunWuKung"]question:

how is passion defined here?[/quote:e7eac3dfe9]

Oh, I kinda viewed it as in terms of love. Like really, deeply, passionately loving someone... Like being head over heels over another person. Like thats how I felt with my 2 serious love interests of mine.. Even tho, i found out that they had interests in other girls... i still liked them in such an intense way, i still wanted them... And its that more those intense, emotional, burning feelings of being in love that i would rather experience..... than being in a stable relationship with sex, without the love and passion of it all...[/quote:e7eac3dfe9]

so we're not talking about a lively sex life and lots of excitement? i thought that's how passion was being defined in this discussion...

tapestrybabe

08-02-2002, 04:33 PM

[quote:7ee0e2ea28="SunWuKung"][quote:7ee0e2ea28="Tapestrybabe"][quote:7ee0e2ea28="SunWuKung"]question:

how is passion defined here?[/quote:7ee0e2ea28]

Oh, I kinda viewed it as in terms of love. Like really, deeply, passionately loving someone... Like being head over heels over another person. Like thats how I felt with my 2 serious love interests of mine.. Even tho, i found out that they had interests in other girls... i still liked them in such an intense way, i still wanted them... And its that more those intense, emotional, burning feelings of being in love that i would rather experience..... than being in a stable relationship with sex, without the love and passion of it all...[/quote:7ee0e2ea28]

so we're not talking about a lively sex life and lots of excitement? i thought that's how passion was being defined in this discussion...[/quote:7ee0e2ea28]

Wellz, that's not how i initially viewed it. And wellz, if I had to decide what passion I would prefer-- the passion of love.. in terms of that intense feeling you may have for someone vs a passionate sex life in terms of receiving lots of excitement... I would pick the passion of love.

And when it comes to having to choose the passion of love over a stable relationship that doesnt have any passion to it... I would still choose love.

Arex

08-02-2002, 04:38 PM

[quote:74d1d02be4="Tapestrybabe"]And how do I know that they were serious?? cuz i ended up crying when i found out they had interests in another girl...[/quote:74d1d02be4]

See, for me, it's exactly these shitty feelings that come with a passionate relationship gone awry that I'd prefer to avoid. Lots of passion comes with it the possibility of great pain and heartache. Since we're talking hypotheticals here, with absolutely no stability, I'm assuming this intense pain and suffering will be a regularly occurring thing. Short term, this is fine. Long term, as in for the rest of my life? I'd prefer not to make regular visits to the pits of despair...

Alex

Arex

08-02-2002, 04:42 PM

[quote:f9dd3b22d2="Tapestrybabe"]
And when it comes to having to choose the passion of love over a stable relationship that doesnt have any passion to it... I would still choose love.[/quote:f9dd3b22d2]

Hmmm... I don't define passion as love but rather an intense love. I think you can love someone in a relationship and yet not be passionate in the relationship...at least you can the way I define it.=)

Alex

tapestrybabe

08-02-2002, 04:54 PM

[quote:98d2bed733="Arex"][quote:98d2bed733="Tapestrybabe"]And how do I know that they were serious?? cuz i ended up crying when i found out they had interests in another girl...[/quote:98d2bed733]

See, for me, it's exactly these shitty feelings that come with a passionate relationship gone awry that I'd prefer to avoid[/quote:98d2bed733]

Yeah, I see your point. Hmmm.. Hmmm.. what to choose, what to choose??-- Drama and turmoil, or tedium and stability??

tapestrybabe

08-02-2002, 05:22 PM

[quote:045a46dc7f="Arex"][quote:045a46dc7f="Tapestrybabe"]
And when it comes to having to choose the passion of love over a stable relationship that doesnt have any passion to it... I would still choose love.[/quote:045a46dc7f]

Hmmm... I don't define passion as love but rather an intense love. I think you can love someone in a relationship and yet not be passionate in the relationship...at least you can the way I define it.=)

Alex[/quote:045a46dc7f]

Yeah, yeah... I think i wasn't so descriptive on that love part.. Yeah, I agree.. that passion has to do more with that intense, head over heels, burning kinda love... And like i was saying before... i think you can have that feeling of intense love for someone... and not necessarily be in a relationship with them... Like you can just obessess over that one person, feel passionately towards them.. never to really tell them how you really feel... or you can have the courage to tell them how you really feel... and if they dont like you back.. you can still like them in that intense burning way... unrequited love.

And me, I think i still would pick passion over stability. Cuz I much prefer being capable of feeling that intense kinda love for other ppl... rather than just being in a stable relationship with one person without ever feeling passion... But of course, having both passion and stability would be ideal..

Arex

08-02-2002, 05:33 PM

[quote:3fc05f61a8="Tapestrybabe"]Drama and turmoil, or tedium and stability??[/quote:3fc05f61a8]

Hey, stable and tedious are not synonymous! If that were the case, I think I would rather be dead too!=)

But yes, ideally we can have both passion and stability. All of one without the other is problematic. Ultimately, if given the choice, I'd always trade a bit of stability for passion and passion for stability.

Alex

thaite

08-03-2002, 03:13 PM

No kidding, Arex. Why is stability here defined as the absence of passion?

CrX3183

08-04-2002, 02:46 AM

What is passion? is it lust?
What is stablility? Staying together with no love?

tapestrybabe

08-04-2002, 08:02 AM

[quote:e73b482ba5="CrX3183"]What is passion? is it lust?
What is stablility? Staying together with no love?[/quote:e73b482ba5]

Naah... PASSION is more like that intense feeling for someone or something. It's that intense affection, that intense devotion, that intense emotion, that intense fervor, that intense enthusiasm, that intense zeal... which is what makes you tick, that is the driving force that compelles you to do what you do.

And you can have that intense passion for sex, music, poetry, art, nature... And it's that intense passion that drives you to paint, sing, write, etc... that sometimes can feel like its beyond your control... cuz that intensity feels so strong...

And me, I still say I'd rather pick passion over stability.. i'd rather be capable of feeling that intense drive, that intense desire, that intense interest in ppl, things, ideas, activities, etc... rather than the blahness of stability.. that stands to endure the test of time, without ever feeling that passion...

SunWuKong

08-04-2002, 11:20 AM

[quote:be4777d2a1="Tapestrybabe"][quote:be4777d2a1="CrX3183"]What is passion? is it lust?
What is stablility? Staying together with no love?[/quote:be4777d2a1]

Naah... PASSION is more like that intense feeling for someone or something. It's that intense affection, that intense devotion, that intense emotion, that intense fervor, that intense enthusiasm, that intense zeal... which is what makes you tick, that is the driving force that compelles you to do what you do.
[/quote:be4777d2a1]

but isn't that just love? i think it would be difficult for me to say that i am in love with someone if i don't feel those things you just described.

tapestrybabe

08-04-2002, 12:13 PM

[quote:2408dae1a1="SunWuKung"][quote:2408dae1a1="Tapestrybabe"][quote:2408dae1a1="CrX3183"]What is passion? is it lust?
What is stablility? Staying together with no love?[/quote:2408dae1a1]

Naah... PASSION is more like that intense feeling for someone or something. It's that intense affection, that intense devotion, that intense emotion, that intense fervor, that intense enthusiasm, that intense zeal... which is what makes you tick, that is the driving force that compelles you to do what you do.
[/quote:2408dae1a1]

but isn't that just love? i think it would be difficult for me to say that i am in love with someone if i don't feel those things you just described.[/quote:2408dae1a1]

OMG, NO!! It doesnt have to do with just love. But PASSION has to do more with that INTENSITY of emotion... whether it be that intense feeling of anger, love, ambition, etc... Its that driving force, that driving emotion inside of you.. than compells you.. Ppl don't call it 'crime of passion' for nothing..

And damn it, haven't you ever felt that passion inside of you?!! Me, its being able to feel that intense force within me.. feeling driven by a passion that has enabled me to be my most creative... And its this intense feeling of passion, that I would rather much be capable of feeling towards ppl, things, ideas, activities... rather than feeling like in a rut of stability without that passion...

SunWuKong

08-04-2002, 01:19 PM

isn't a "crime of passion" basically a "mistake of lust"?

see, now it seems to me you're just describing lust.

Green_Jade

08-04-2002, 07:33 PM

passion, stability...passion...stability.. I donno, I couldn't pick one right at this monent. If i had a guy... or meet one, I'd know, depending on how the guy is like.

hehe. i wish i had a boy now just to make my evil crazy rommate jealous. She gets jealous for odd things. yep, spoiled white girl. ehk.

CrX3183

08-04-2002, 08:23 PM

[quote:ea6c97b3d0="artzygrrl"]passion, stability...passion...stability.. I donno, I couldn't pick one right at this monent. If i had a guy... or meet one, I'd know, depending on how the guy is like.

hehe. i wish i had a boy now just to make my evil crazy rommate jealous. She gets jealous for odd things. yep, spoiled white girl. ehk.[/quote:ea6c97b3d0]
OMG she'll get jealous if u had a bf???

Green_Jade

08-05-2002, 10:40 AM

She'll get jealous if i get a lots of sleep one day because i've been working my butt off for weeks to finish all my projects on time.... she'll get jealous if I go out with my OWN friends, beucause i'm "ignoring" her. She'll probably get jealous after graduation when I have a job and she doesnt, even though we are in compeletly different field of art..well, she's not even art, she's design... She's urm.. you know, had issues. Zoloft is not working for her,..somethings gotta work, or I might go nuts from holding down all the shit she's given me... and she wonders why I'm not friends with her

[quote:014c7a96e8="CrX3183"][quote:014c7a96e8="artzygrrl"]passion, s
tability...passion...stability.. I donno, I couldn't pick one right at this monent. If i had a guy... or meet one, I'd know, depending on how the guy is like.

hehe. i wish i had a boy now just to make my evil crazy rommate jealous. She gets jealous for odd things. yep, spoiled white girl. ehk.[/quote:014c7a96e8]
OMG she'll get jealous if u had a bf???[/quote:014c7a96e8]