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princeton
11-15-2003, 11:58 AM
New York Mets special assistant Bill Singer and the team apologized for racially insensitive remarks to a Los Angeles Dodgers' Kim Ng during the general managers' meetings.
Mets front office member makes racial remarks to Dodgers' Kim Ng (http://www.asianathlete.com/DaScoopsFormDisplay.aspx?ID=1496)
Here we go again...
pfc beansprout
11-15-2003, 06:19 PM
yeah...read this shit...on espn.com now...here u go......
ESPN.com news services
NEW YORK -- New York Mets special assistant Bill Singer and the team apologized for racially insensitive remarks to a Los Angeles Dodgers' official during the general managers' meetings.
Singer made the comments to Dodgers assistant general manager Kim Ng at a hotel bar in Arizona on Tuesday night, prompting Yankees general manager Brian Cashman -- Ng's former boss -- to step in, sources familiar with the conversation told the New York Daily News. The Los Angeles Times also reported that Singer confronted Ng, citing unnamed baseball officials who were present.
"I am embarrassed by what I said when I met with Ng on Tuesday evening," Singer said Friday in a statement released by the Mets. "My comments were truly inappropriate and I'm truly sorry. I have apologized to her and hope she will forgive me."
According to the Times, Singer approached Ng as baseball people gathered in the hotel bar Tuesday night after attending an instructional league game. Two officials within earshot described the exchange, which Singer initiated at about 11 p.m., to the Times as follows:
Singer -- "What are you doing here?"
Ng -- "I'm working."
Singer -- "What are you doing here?"
Ng -- "I'm working. I'm the Dodger assistant general manager."
Singer -- "Where are you from?"
Ng -- "I was born in Indiana and grew up in New York."
Singer -- "Where are you from?"
Ng -- "My family's from China."
Singer -- Nonsensically mock Chinese, then "What country in China?"
"There was a situation," Ng told the Daily News. "I've talked to [Mets GM] Jim Duquette about it. That's all I'm going to comment about it."
Cashman declined to comment to the Daily News.
"His conduct was inexcusable and extremely disappointing," Dodgers GM Dan Evans told the Times. "Kim handled the entire situation in a professional manner, and we addressed the matter with the New York Mets the next day. I would prefer to keep that discussion with the Mets confidential."
Singer, 59, a two-time 20-game winner during his 14-year pitching career in the majors, joined the Mets last week as an assistant and talent evaluator.
"We learned of the matter recently and have addressed it with Bill Singer directly," Duquette said. "While I cannot share the particulars of that discussion with you, suffice it to say that his comments were entirely unacceptable and inconsistent with the values and standards of our organization. We have extended our apologies to Kim Ng and to the Dodgers organization.
"Bill continues to be employed by us at the moment. However, this entire matter continues to be under review by the organization. We are reserving judgment on this."
Ng became the second female assistant general manager in the majors when she was hired by the Yankees in 1997. At 29, she was the youngest assistant GM in the majors. Ng resigned from the Yankees in 2001 after her contract expired, and was hired by the Dodgers a month later.
kitty
11-16-2003, 08:37 AM
(found out through http://www.angryasianman.com)
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers15nov15,1,4114939.story
Ng Is Victim of Racial Taunts
Former Dodger and Angel pitcher Bill Singer apologizes for remarks directed at the Dodgers' assistant GM during meetings in Phoenix.
PHOENIX — New York Met official Bill Singer, a former All-Star pitcher with the Dodgers and Angels, directed racially insensitive remarks at Dodger executive Kim Ng in deriding her Chinese heritage this week, baseball officials who witnessed the incident said Friday.
Singer, hired last week as a special assistant to Met General Manager Jim Duquette, confronted Ng, a Dodger vice president and assistant general manager, late Tuesday night at the general manager meetings here.
According to witnesses, Singer approached Ng in the bar of the hotel where the meetings occurred. After asking Ng, the highest-ranking Asian American in the major leagues, questions about her background in a sarcastic tone, Singer began speaking nonsensically in mock Chinese before eventually leaving.
Although he did not confirm details, Singer expressed remorse for his actions in a statement provided by the Mets.
"I'm embarrassed by what I said when I met Ms. Ng on Tuesday evening," the statement read. "My comments were totally inappropriate and I'm truly sorry. I have apologized to her and hope that she will forgive me."
Ng declined to discuss the events of that evening, acknowledging only "there was a situation that occurred. I have talked to Jim Duquette about it, and that's all I'm going to comment on."
The Dodgers and Mets also commented Friday on the embarrassing situation.
"His conduct was inexcusable and extremely disappointing," said Dodger General Manager Dan Evans, Ng's longtime friend and mentor.
"Kim handled the entire situation in a professional manner, and we addressed the matter with the New York Mets the next day. I would prefer to keep that discussion with the Mets confidential."
Duquette responded through Jay Horwitz, the Mets' vice president of media relations.
"We learned of the matter recently and have addressed it with Bill Singer directly," Duquette said in a statement read by Horwitz. "While I cannot share the particulars of that discussion with you, suffice it to say, his comments were entirely unacceptable and inconsistent with the values and standards of our organization. We have extended our apologies to Kim Ng and the Dodger organization."
Responding to a reporter's question about Singer's job status, Duquette said that Singer is still "employed by us at the moment. However, this entire matter continues to be under review by the organization. We are reserving judgment on this."
Because of his status as one of Duquette's top advisors, Singer was part of the Mets' contingent at the meetings that ended Friday.
Singer is one of two special assistants recently added to the club's reorganized front office. He formerly was a special assistant with Pittsburgh and held a top amateur scouting position with the Dodgers in 1998.
A 20-game winner with the Dodgers in 1969 and Angels in 1973, Singer tossed a no-hitter for the Dodgers against Philadelphia on July 20, 1970.
On Tuesday, Singer approached Ng as many baseball people were gathering in the hotel bar after attending an instructional league game. Deals are often discussed after hours in bars, and the hot-stove league talk continued that night as Singer began questioning Ng at about 11 p.m.
Two officials within earshot described the exchange.
Singer: What are you doing here?
Ng: I'm working.
Singer: What are you doing here?
Ng: I'm working. I'm the Dodger assistant general manager.
Singer: Where are you from?
Ng: I was born in Indiana and grew up in New York.
Singer: Where are you from?
Ng: My family's from China.
Singer: (Nonsensically mock Chinese). What country in China?
Evans, not present at the bar late Tuesday, was informed about the incident by many people early Wednesday morning. He was said to be furious about what had occurred, Dodger sources said, and clearly expressed his feelings to Duquette.
Ng is in her second season with the Dodgers. In its May 5 edition, Sports Illustrated ranked Ng as the "38th most influential minority in the sports world." Before joining the Dodgers, she served as a vice president and assistant general manager for the New York Yankees and worked for Major League Baseball.
Ng began her baseball career with the Chicago White Sox in 1990, working under Evans in baseball operations.
"As always, Kim acted professionally," Evans said. "It's an unfortunate situation."
lethal
11-16-2003, 09:16 AM
Already posted here: http://forums.yellowworld.org/showthread.php?t=10770
lethal
11-16-2003, 09:23 AM
Singer -- Nonsensically mock Chinese, then "What country in China?"
This is the part that gets me the most.
Ng was rumored to be a candidate for the Montreal Expos GM job if Omar Minaya left for another job.
The Mets guy had been on the job for about a week. If he doesn't get fired, I'm going out to Shea with signs calling for his head and bringing camera crews with me.
mrazntre
11-16-2003, 09:48 AM
let's do something about this.
lethal
11-16-2003, 04:43 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1662212
Singer's getting fired. There's no way he can save his job.
The Mets have already begun looking for his replacement, according to a story in the New York Daily News on Sunday. And sources told the newspaper there is "no way" that Singer will survive the controversy.
mr. x
11-16-2003, 04:43 PM
thing is, he never used "chink" or anything so it's like, some people woulda let it slide
hell i mightve
thing is, he never used "chink" or anything so it's like, some people woulda let it slide
hell i mightve
fuck no, that guy's a fucking racist, no doubt in my mind
i say we keep an eye on the situation, make sure he doesn't get another job with a different team elsewhere.
mr. x
11-16-2003, 05:07 PM
fuck no, that guy's a fucking racist, no doubt in my mind
i say we keep an eye on the situation, make sure he doesn't get another job with a different team elsewhere.
yeah i know what u mean, its better we keep em running but i mean this is one of those locker room antics that some people would be inclined to give a pass
thaite
11-17-2003, 11:03 AM
Wow, what an ass!
thaite
11-17-2003, 11:08 AM
Thanks kitty. Topic is already being discussed.
pfc beansprout
11-18-2003, 06:07 PM
dood got canned! heh....check it
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1665046
Associated Press
NEW YORK -- Bill Singer was fired by the New York Mets on Tuesday, a week after the newly hired special assistant made racially insensitive remarks to a Los Angeles Dodgers executive.
At the general manager's meetings in Phoenix, Singer reportedly asked Dodgers assistant general manager Kim Ng questions about her background and later spoke in gibberish, making fun of the Chinese language.
Singer was hired by Mets general manager Jim Duquette on Nov. 6 after spending the 2003 season as a special assistant to the GM of the Pittsburgh Pirates.
"As a matter of policy our organization cannot and will not tolerate any comment or conduct by an employee that suggests insensitivity or intolerance to any racial, ethnic or religious group," Duquette said in a statement. "Any deviation from this standard is not acceptable.''
Singer, 59, and the Mets later apologized to Ng, one of the highest-ranking women in baseball administration. Singer was a two-time 20-game winner during his 14-year pitching career in the majors.
Ng said she had no comment regarding Singer's dismissal.
Ng, who was raised in New Jersey, became the second female assistant general manager in the majors when she was hired by the New York Yankees in 1997. At 29, she was the youngest assistant GM in the majors.
Ng resigned from the Yankees in 2001 after her contract expired, and was hired by the Dodgers a month later.
achtungbaby
11-19-2003, 10:54 AM
For Immediate Release
November 18, 2003
Contact: Eleanor Lee 202-223-5500
OCA RESPONDS TO BILL SINGER'S TAUNTS TO DODGERS' EXECUTIVE KIM NG
Washington, DC - The Organization of Chinese Americans (OCA), a national Asian Pacific American (APA) civil rights advocacy and educational organization with over 80 chapters and affiliates nationwide, is pleased with the New York Mets' immediate action in response to Bill Singer's racial remarks towards Los Angeles Dodger executive Kim Ng.
Last Tuesday at the general manager meetings in Phoenix, Arizona, Bill Singer, the special assistant to Met General Manager Jim Duquette, confronted Kim Ng, a Dodger vice president and assistant general manager, and proceeded to taunt her by speaking in mock Chinese and questioning her about her background.
Singer later issued a statement of apology. The Mets also issued a statement, declaring Singer's behavior to be "entirely unacceptable and inconsistent with the values and standards of our organization." Duquette also extended apologies to Ng and the Dodger organization.
"We are pleased to hear that Singer immediately apologized for his racist comments," said Raymond Wong, OCA National President. "Ms. Ng is an inspiring example for all APAs as the highest ranking Asian American in the major leagues. An individual that has worked long and hard to get to her position should not be subjected to such behavior. The Mets responded appropriately by taking decisive action and showing that they are an organization that does not tolerate racism."
"It is unfortunate to see a recent trend of racist comments being made by sports figures toward Asian Americans," said Christine Chen, OCA Executive Director. "OCA has written to Singer and to Duquette in response to these incidents. We ask that the Mets ensure that Asian Pacific Americans are part of the diversity training that that is in place for their organization. It is important that management recognizes the value of diversity in race and gender in the male-dominated sport of baseball."
Prior to joining the Dodgers, Ng worked for the New York Yankees and the Chicago White Sox. Singer is a former All-Star pitcher with the Dodgers and the Angels.
Danny
11-19-2003, 06:09 PM
The topic is a bit misleading here..
More MLB Racism against Asians
I mean yes, the guy did work for the MLB, but that does not mean that his remarks represented the MLB. It would be the same as saying whitey racism against Asian. The guy was incredibly stupid, but that was about it. Attaching the MLB label to it is incredibly misleading.
There is also the insinuation that this is not the only kind of racism that the MLB is guilty of either. The topic title should be clarified.
Chester
11-19-2003, 06:19 PM
There is also the insinuation that this is not the only kind of racism that the MLB is guilty of either. The topic title should be clarified.
Ditto, emphatically.
yangbahn50
11-20-2003, 12:36 AM
Thank God Singer got shit canned.
That article really got on my nerves...especially how he asked Ng "What country in China are you from?"
What an ignorant question! I'm glad that Ng didn't smack the living shit out of this loser.
I guess it's time for Singer to start filling out applications for McDonalds.
Faithless
09-04-2004, 09:00 AM
I realize this is old news, but I think it's worth a follow up:
The incident:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1662212
...
According to The Times, Singer approached Ng as baseball people gathered in the hotel bar after attending an instructional league game Tuesday. Two officials within earshot described the exchange, which Singer initiated, to The Times as follows:
Singer: "What are you doing here?"
Ng: "I'm working."
Singer: "What are you doing here?"
Ng: "I'm working. I'm the Dodger assistant general manager."
Singer: "Where are you from?"
Ng: "I was born in Indiana and grew up in New York."
Singer: "Where are you from?"
Ng: "My family's from China."
Singer: Nonsensically mock Chinese, then "What country in China?"
...
.
Singer was fired in November 2003.
Mets Fire Singer Over Racially Insensitive Comments (http://www.channel3000.com/mlb007/2647363/detail.html)
Of course you all know that since the threads have been merged. :rolleyes:
Anyways, what caused such a stupid outburst?
His Atkins diet. :eek: :biggrin:
SLURRING HIS WORDS (http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2003/11/21/baseball_executive_strikes_out_ballet_receives_a_l ift/)
We've heard of the "Twinkie defense," but in the annals of preposterous alibis, Bill Singer's is one the worst. Explaining why he belittled the ethnic background of baseball executive Kim Ng, Singer, an assistant GM with the New York Mets, blamed the Atkins diet. Singer said the low-carb regimen, combined with too much alcohol, caused a chemical imbalance that led him to speak gibberish to Ng, who's Chinese-American. Singer apologized for his boorish behavior, but still was fired Tuesday by the Mets. So, we wondered, can a high-protein diet really have such an unpleasant side effect? Dr. Walter Willett, chairman of Harvard's department of nutrition, and Dr. Nevin Scrimshaw, at the International Nutrition Foundation, were both reportedly out yesterday, but Lilian Cheung of the Harvard School of Public Health's "Nutrition Source" website is highly skeptical. "Oh, my gosh," she said. "I've never heard that one."
SunWuKong
09-04-2004, 09:43 AM
threads have been merged.
mr. x
09-04-2004, 09:58 PM
Anyways, what caused such a stupid outburst?
His Atkins diet. :eek: :biggrin:
hahahahahaha
i bet people'll remember his stupid alibi over the remark itself
AHung
12-28-2007, 04:33 PM
I gotta revive this thread again after discovering today that this prick was able to land another job by the Arizona Diamondbacks a little over a year ago. (Can't provide links since I don't have 15 posts or more, so you'll have to cut and paste to see links)
arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20050208&content_id=940975&vkey=news_ari&fext=.jsp&c_id=ari
As expected, the mainstream press did NOTHING to bring attention to this fact.
"It happened; Bill acknowledges that it happened," Garagiola said. "It's something that has had a tremendous and profound impact on his life. We satisfied ourselves by talking to him, to other people about him and doing a thorough background check."Whatever. Of course it had a profound impact on his life, he was fired. That will usually do that to people. But blaming the Atkins diet doesn't come anywhere close to expressing true remorse. He should suffer the same fate as Jimmy the Greek.
If this pisses you off as much as it does me and would like to share your my ire at the racist apologist organization of the Arizona Diamondbacks please don't hesitate to send them a message at:
arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/help/email.jsp?c_id=ari&primarySubject=Other&secondarySubject=None&dest=fanfeedback@diamondbacks.mlb.com
or email directly to:
fanfeedback@diamondbacks.mlb.com (fanfeedback@diamondbacks.mlb.com)
and/or email baseball's Diverse Parters Program that is supposed to be an initiative by baseball to increase opportunities for minorities and woman to own businesses in baseball and express your outrage at their hypocrisy:
dbp@mlb.com
If anyone knows of any more effective channels to file an official complaint, or other email addresses that might be useful to mail to please don't hesitate to post.
I'm always regretted that Asian Americans lack anything resembling what the ferocious Jewish Defense League (JDL) and Anti-Defamation League (ADL) represent for the Jewish that would have been very pro-active in pouncing on information like this as soon as it occurred.
AHung
12-28-2007, 04:37 PM
Furthermore, the OCA and APA need more angry activists and some catching up to do.
AHung
12-28-2007, 05:18 PM
He actually landed the Diamondbacks job in February of 2005. In November of 2006 he was hired by the Washington Nationals as scouting director where he coordinates scouting operations in Asia. Can you believe that crap?
Tell it to the Washington Nationals:
web form:
washington.nationals.mlb.com/help/email.jsp?c_id=was&primarySubject=Other&secondarySubject=None&dest=Fanfeedback@nationals.com
or email at: fanfeedback@nationals.mlb.com (nationals@mlb.com)
CBC guy
12-28-2007, 07:18 PM
fucking Singer hahaha I would ask him in a mock southern accent and then "what county are YOU from, you fucking cracker?" LOL
I'm kidding, I'm not actually that vindicative, although I would love to see an Asian person do that to him.
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