self love....

[wylin]

since i saw this in the rant room might as well throw oil on the fire.

[quote:ec5b0ee469="buoywonder"]I read the phrase "single-sex education" and thought this was gonna be about masturbation.

Damn, was I disappointed! :evil:[/quote:ec5b0ee469]

so whats everyones thoughts bout masterbation. is it the hair on your palms growing sin that parents and culture sees it at, the pornography induced stupor that mostly men have to deal w/ their sexual inadequacies, sumthing normal and natural like its discussed in sexual education/ AIDS awareness circles, or is it gods gift to men and women when their partner sucks ass!

i hear from my female friends all the time dude you u do that everyday just like every other guy. Or from others bout the increased or decreased sexual appetite, or bout that hell no girls "NEVER" do that.

just wanna begin a weird discussion. u should post ur random thoughts, but be mature bout it. dont go "i be a wackin' 4-5 times a day.

my own comments is that is that masterbation is probably mostly normal but done excessively or keyed in w/ a pornography addiction it can become unhealthy or even destructive to your own romantic endevors.

[tapestrybabe]

Ok, here's an open and honest discussion for you. i've been doing it ever since i was a little toddelor... even before I knew what the word meant. And while growing up... it just became a natural daily routine for me before I went to sleep.. like brushing my teeth, taking a shower, etc... and at the age of 13, I was able to achieve my first orgasm. And at the age of 25 when I had my first experience with an actual person... i admit, i wasn't all that nervous.. cuz i was familiar with my body, I knew what i liked.. and what i wanted.. I was comfortable with myself.. so hence I felt comfortable with the other person and being able to express myself.. cuz I feel I already had a lot of experience on my own...

Me, I see no problems with it. However.. I feel masturbation becomes a different issue... when your a child vs. an adult. As a child, you do it cuz its enjoyable.. its done outta natural desire. However, as an adult... your more AWARE of it all. So, while it can be done outta natural desire.. I also think it becomes more of a CHOICE.. And me, as an adult.. I become more hesitant about it all... not wanting to do it so often.. not wanting to do it based on mere whim... because I feel the urge to do it. But like whateverz... As a woman, i can see it as a healthy activity when it comes to exploring yourself, and learning what you like, and becoming more comfortable with yourself and how your body functions..

[karizma]

>> hmm..and here i thought i was a wierd child because i engaged in some of my own "self-love" when i was young. tapestrybabe...you're one cool chick.

>> i remember accidentally poppin in a tape of porno when i was about 6....i didnt know what they were doing but it made me squirm nonetheless...anyways, i find nothing wrong with masturbation...right now its the only way i can achieve an orgasm 'cause no guy can seem to bring me to one...sad right? but yea, i do it for the same reasons a guy might do it for..[except sexual deprivation]...it relieves stress...feels good...shit y not?

[achtungbaby]

Often times it's easier to please older women -- why? Because a lot of times they have less hang ups about masturbation and have a better idea of what actually feels good to them; consequently, they can communicate what exactly they want better to guys.

[wylin]

[quote:4be780724f="achtungbaby"]Often times it's easier to please older women -- why? Because a lot of times they have less hang ups about masturbation and have a better idea of what actually feels good to them; consequently, they can communicate what exactly they want better to guys.[/quote:4be780724f]

true that achtungbaby, the thing bout older women.

i think masterbation in general is a less discussed topic and that my own personal experience is yeh its a once in a while thing bout as often as i change my sparkplugs, normally my level of sexual desire is sumwhere of that of a dead fish. but its good to hear u two one older and one very young ladies are confortable w/ ur bodies.

but based upon karizma's post why do u think masterbation is the only way alota women can hit that the big O. ladies, do you think you have trained urself to accept only that type of physical stimulation? has it lessened ur own bed room romps?

[wylin]

[quote:435359bb36="karizma"]it relieves stress...feels good...shit y not?[/quote:435359bb36]

lol karizma, i guess this is why alota women do this, i have heard this from alota girls why they do perform the act even thought outwardly they seem very conservative and repressed. any more thoughts? and guyz ad ur commentary

[sxyOptiKali]

just one thing tho...."everything in moderation" i know fiends who do it all the time, get sick of it and want something more., and makes them more prone to have "loose experiences" thats where accadents happen.

P.S is "everything in moderation" an oxy-moron? wouldn't it be "a moderate amout of things in moderation"? lol

[karizma]

>> i think gals in general are conservative about their sex life...and masturbation en whatnot...as to why they are...i havent the slightest clue...maybe because we arent encouraged to express our sexuality the way men are...but then there are the few who peruse their bodies and really know themselves inside and out...im thinkin these chicks tend to be more open-minded about sex and more willing to discuss it...i know this is how it is for me...

[kasia]

:wink:

[mrazntre]

damn. this thread reminds me, i haven't jacked off in a while... gimme a sec or two. *whack whack whack whack whack* ooooooh. *sleeepiez*


gnite.

[tapestrybabe]

[quote:2b1f2d943c="wylin"]ladies, do you think you have trained urself to accept only that type of physical stimulation? has it lessened ur own bed room romps?[/quote:2b1f2d943c]

Me, I think there is an over emphasis in having to achieve orgasm in sex. Like that's the ultimate goal. And its made me feel the pressure in having to achieve one sometimes, making it all kinda less enjoyable. Me, I'd prefer in not having to feel that pressure, but have the man take his time and for me to just lay back and enjoy it all or whateverz.... And its usually when I dont feel the pressure is when I am more easily able to achieve one... but its not essential... cuz while I may not achieve one all the time, it doesnt make my experience any less... Cuz if you really care about the person... theres more to it all.. the hugging, caressing, kissing, joking, laughing, being playful, etc...

[wylin]

http://www.new-life.net/mastrbte.htm

lol this is a website dedicated for sy and karizma to overcome their urges!

[achtungbaby]

[quote:0c8071f792="Tapestrybabe"]Me, I think there is an over emphasis in having to achieve orgasm in sex. Like that's the ultimate goal.[/quote:0c8071f792]

Well of course that's the ultimately goal! :twisted: I mean, you don't go out to dinner to just chew the food and spit it out...you chew and ultimately swallow (no pun intended)...!

[tapestrybabe]

[quote:9bd252c833="achtungbaby"][quote:9bd252c833="Tapestrybabe"]Me, I think there is an over emphasis in having to achieve orgasm in sex. Like that's the ultimate goal.[/quote:9bd252c833]

Well of course that's the ultimately goal! :twisted:[/quote:9bd252c833]

Well, I guess your kinda right. But I guess what I'm trying to say.. its the PRESSURE that I dont like about it all. I've been in situations in where I felt that intense pressure to have one--not for myself, but for my partner, which prevented me from enjoying myself fully. And for me, its perfectly possible for me to have an enjoyable sexual experience without having one.

[wylin]

[quote:0e0a16442d="Tapestrybabe"][quote:0e0a16442d="achtungbaby"][quote:0e0a16442d="Tapestrybabe"]Me, I think there is an over emphasis in having to achieve orgasm in sex. Like that's the ultimate goal.[/quote:0e0a16442d]

Well of course that's the ultimately goal! :twisted:[/quote:0e0a16442d]

Well, I guess your kinda right. But I guess what I'm trying to say.. its the PRESSURE that I dont like about it all. I've been in situations in where I felt that intense pressure to have one--not for myself, but for my partner, which prevented me from enjoying myself fully. And for me, its perfectly possible for me to have an enjoyable sexual experience without having one.[/quote:0e0a16442d]

i see u been trained well by society, im gonna devils advocate why is that women are trained to be satisfied w/o an orgasm and when the guy has one the sexual act is now done, shouldnt he perform his manly duties to the fullest? and is this why women place so much emphasis on masterbation

lol just adding more oil to flame

[sxyOptiKali]

on that masturbation site However we do have a clear command, concerning the lust of a woman who is not your wife. Jesus says this is essentially the same as the sin of adultery.

"Anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart." Matthew 5:28.

[/quote:b62fcec3a2]

How can u commit adultry if ur not married?

[tapestrybabe]

[quote:dfb7f5b30c="wylin"]why is that women are trained to be satisfied w/o an orgasm and when the guy has one the sexual act is now done, shouldnt he perform his manly duties to the fullest?[/quote:dfb7f5b30c]

Oh wellz..
is it really the performance of the man that actually gives the woman the orgasm, or is it the woman that allows it more to happen?? I mean, I feel that there are certain situations that call for certain reactions from me. Like if I'm with just an ok kinda guy, I will feel less inclined to have a big one. However, if I am with a guy I am really into and whom I really dig, I am more likely to allow myself to give it my all.. So, it all kinda relates to my emotions I feel for the guy... But than again, it can also relate to his attitude. Like if I am with a bossy and demanding guy.. I will feel tense and closed up about the whole idea. However, if the guy allows me to feel my freedom and express myself,... yeah, I'll feel more relaxed and more than likely feel more of an intense one. But than again, it may have to do with my mood at the time, my level of sex drive at the moment... Like maybe I'm just really into it, or maybe I just got a headache. So you see.. I dont think its solely the man performing on me that necessarily gives it.. but its up to me that allows it to happen based on how I feel at the moment....

[wylin]

seeing sy makes me wanna perform real hard, jk.

yah performance makes me have problems sumtimes w/ partners i feel the need to have give her the big O and it kinda messes up the time im having i guess it depends on who and what u feel.

least im not a woman who has a hard time getting the release and masterbation isnt my only outlet.

tisk

[achtungbaby]

seeing sy makes me wanna perform real hard, jk.[/quote:2bec21b99b]

Is he your muse? 8O

[angelnympho]

it's no big deal... i dont get much of a kick out of it...
the only time i ever really do it is when a boy is there to watch.... :lol:

[ChinaLama]

Ok, masturbation 0wnz sex w/ another person for 2 reasons:

1) you dont have to call or wait till she/he is in the mood or some bs. You just do it when you're alone.

2) No Diseases. No kids. No risks except your dick falling off from too much. :)


yeah yeah, people will say this is just sour grapes cuz i'm a virgin having been rejected by many girls but I am PROUD TO BE A MONKEY TRAINER!!!

[wylin]

[quote:972dcc3326="angelnympho"]it's no big deal... i dont get much of a kick out of it...
the only time i ever really do it is when a boy is there to watch.... :lol:[/quote:972dcc3326]

nice miss, very um exobitionist! i thought most girls get mad when u ask them do that!@

[jizza]

[quote:487928545c="ChinaLama"]Ok, masturbation 0wnz sex w/ another person for 2 reasons:

1) you dont have to call or wait till she/he is in the mood or some bs. You just do it when you're alone.

2) No Diseases. No kids. No risks except your dick falling off from too much. :)


yeah yeah, people will say this is just sour grapes cuz i'm a virgin having been rejected by many girls but I am PROUD TO BE A MONKEY TRAINER!!![/quote:487928545c]

the day u lose ur virginity will be the day u realize that those two reasons were actually excuses that could be cured with a condom. :lol: once the deed is done u will roll over and say to urself "Good Lord, look what i've been missing out on!!!!"

[achtungbaby]

[quote:55463ad4e5="jizza"]
the day u lose ur virginity will be the day u realize..."Good Lord, look what i've been missing out on!!!!"[/quote:55463ad4e5]

Preach on, brotha!

[deez nuts]

[img:8f5d46606f]http://members.aol.com/johnk0/godkills.jpg[/img:8f5d46606f]


Stop killing kittens!

[karizma]

>> haha i remember that picture..so fricken cute lol...how many kittens have YOU killed this week?

>> guys tell me to masturbate for them...shit youre sitting in front of me, my clothes are off and so are yours...and you're telling me to please myself? do your job biatch before i lay the smackdown!!! puahaha...dont get me wrong i love foreplay and pleasin my fella but for chrissakes leave the voyeuristic fantasies to yourself. :D...but eh...there are exceptions...like when i wanna tease, heh heh...

[ChinaLama]

That picture doesn't work on me cuz I eat kittens for dinner and wear their fur for hats. :)

And the day I have sex, I'm going straight back to jacking off and never touching a skanky poon ever again. ;) I mean hey once you do it it loses all its mystique, right?

The day the condom breaks and I find myself a father w/ syphilis is the day i go "GOD DAMN TROJANS BETRAYED ME AND I'M NOT EVEN GREEK...WHAT BEEF DO THEY HAVE WITH ME?" *sniffle*

[Arex]

Good thing I don't believe in God, otherwise that'd be Tinkerbell and Captain Hook every fucking day...

DUREX

[tapestrybabe]

I went to a SexExpo at the Jacob Javitz Center a few years back. And it was no biggie... it was just like one big porn shop, selling sex toys, magazines, books, vidoes.... but it was all just glamorized,... and they had like this art gallery of erotic paintings and photos and what not...

and ok, i ended up buying this particular book by Joani Blank... called... I Am My Lover: Women Pleasure Themselves... and its just a book of black and white photographs of women masturbating in the privacy of their own homes... And i feel it was done very tastefully.. in terms of taking a personal act to be made public.. and not exploiting it all... anyways, altho there are some aspects of having a partner that makes it more enjoyable than going solo... i dont want to say that having sex with another person is always necessarily better than self stimulation... cuz i admit, being able to self stimulate... i wouldn't want someone to take that away from me... even if i did have a partner.. cuz its something thats always been naturally a part of me ever since i was a young toddelor..

http://www.joaniblank.com/sexuality.htm#books

[artsfartsyjanet]

I think masturbation is healthy and normal so as long as it doesn't get in the way of work and relationships. I can just see my high school Catholic religion teacher sneer at me now. hehe



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[wylin]

we need certain new members imput on my happy subject. =X

[angel nympho]

Originally posted by ChinaLama@Jul 6 2002, 09:40 AM
That picture doesn't work on me cuz I eat kittens for dinner and wear their fur for hats. :)

And the day I have sex, I'm going straight back to jacking off and never touching a skanky poon ever again. ;) I mean hey once you do it it loses all its mystique, right?

The day the condom breaks and I find myself a father w/ syphilis is the day i go "GOD DAMN TROJANS BETRAYED ME AND I'M NOT EVEN GREEK...WHAT BEEF DO THEY HAVE WITH ME?" *sniffle*
Umm. I'd like to see you try to have sex once and stop.

[Saiko]

Originally posted by wylin@Sep 3 2002, 06:04 PM
we need certain new members imput on my happy subject. =X
I'm a happy girl every night.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Saiko@Sep 3 2002, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by wylin@Sep 3 2002, 06:04 PM
we need certain new members imput on my happy subject. =X
I'm a happy girl every night.
I am in a perpetual state of happiness.

[deez nuts]

Buy the harry potter broomstick of pleasure!

[kimpossible]

Wow, how stupid can I be. Here I've avoided reading this thread because I thought it was going to be about emotional self love.

[achtungbaby]

Originally posted by Hello_Hapa@Sep 4 2002, 03:05 PM
Wow, how stupid can I be. Here I've avoided reading this thread because I thought it was going to be about emotional self love.
They're necessary. One's just more urgent (and obsessive, apparently) than the other.

[wylin]

use the hello kitty personal massager

http://store.yahoo.com/animenation/kty100.html

[kimpossible]

Originally posted by wylin@Sep 3 2002, 03:04 PM
we need certain new members imput on my happy subject. =X
Just out of curiousity, who did you mean?

[wylin]

beats me just bored and revived a dead topic!

[kimpossible]

i've been doing it ever since i was a little toddelor... even before I knew what the word meant

i engaged in some of my own "self-love" when i was young.


Man, I must have been a late bloomer because I didn't have the thought of touching that area until I was a teenager.

[Saiko]

I was a perverted little girl, I'm sorry.

[mrazntre]

Posted on Sep 18 2002, 03:44 AM
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I was a perverted little girl, I'm sorry.

sorry babygirl, but you still are a perverted little girl......



"you must love oneself before you get love from someone else" -- me, circa 1989