Should I use cocaine? [Archive] - Yellowworld Forums

ModernLogic

11-07-2003, 03:50 AM

A friend of mine whom I smoke pot with has moved onto cocaine. He says he's been doing it for over a year now but he's not addicted. He says he uses it sparingly (about twice a month) and it helps give me a great energy boost while he's studying.

He offered some to me but I declined out of fear of developing an addiction. But he claims that the addictiveness of cocaine has been exaggerated and its possible to control your cocaine habit as long as you don't over-indulge.

So has anyone ever tried cocaine? Is it possible to be a non-addictive cocaine user?

stunninglyAsian

11-07-2003, 05:30 AM

The magic phrase- "IF you don't over-indulge"

You don't want to look at drugs in that way because different people have different levels of addictiveness. Some people may be so caught up in the experience that they can't just do it once or twice a month- like a normal person gambling vs. a gambling addict. It all depends on how your brain takes that particular increase in that stimulus. But even if the odds are in your favor to casually take coke, it's still a bad idea:

1) You'll fuck up your body over time
2) Get caught with this and you are fucked. Pot is one thing, but coke is on a whole different level
3) Stigma in society- "I do coke and pot" are not the words you want to hear from a person
4) Still a good chance you'll get addicted to it, in which case you are really fucked. Withdrawal is a motherfucker
5) This is the stereotypical case of drug addicts- start out with the lighter drugs and move your way up to coke and heroin.

Finally, if you haven't seen the movie already, go watch Requiem for a Dream. Yes it's a movie, but it will make you look at the situation from a different angle.

Ogumo

11-07-2003, 05:54 AM

John0101

11-07-2003, 06:23 AM

I had tried Cocaine on serval occasions, but I don't consider myself a user of cocaine. First time I smoked it w/herb and it was alright. I always seem to have it after I'm drunk and my friends would bust out a line on the mirror and start blowing. Hhahhah, good times. It kinda of sobers me up and then I can't sleep.

But, if you are looking for a drug to help you study there are many other drugs that are less addicting, ephedra (over the counter), caffine, Adderall (coke's little brother, perscription), Ritalin, Dexadrin (sp?). All of these are uppers.

Some people have a more addicting personalities then others, if you can't control yourself I would not try cocaine. So expensive for the high, while I can pickup some other uppers and feel almost as good.

John0101

11-07-2003, 06:26 AM

Damn your friends are really live ones arent they... Well the thing with cocaine is that it really attacks your body. If your job has random checks you are taking a huge risk. Your friend may not be addicted now. But if he continues using I am sure he will get addicted. Its twice a month now but that number will probably increase over time. But even if he stops now I am sure he will feel the effects of this drug later in life. You mus remember just because he is not addicted after a year of use does not mean that you wont be. I wouldnt personally recommend this for anyone.

I had a friend to had been using cocaine for 2 years, but only occasionly. Whenever he gets a gram he would finish it within a week or so. But he would only get a gram once a month. He still say that he feels the need for some yay once in a while and get a urge similiar to "need a cigeratte" feeling.

Emperor_Mike

11-07-2003, 06:35 AM

A few minutes ago I had a near overwhelming urge to hurl a can of Coke at this anonymous Geography student who was sitting beneath the stairs peacefully eating her lunch. Did I do it? No, because that would be anti-social behaviour and I'd probably get disciplined and/or kicked out of law school in addition to being sued.

And you shouldn't use cocaine either. But that's just my personal opinion so you might consider doing it anyway.

Rogmok

11-07-2003, 07:02 AM

the consequences and the risks are not worth it.

just say NO!

ellsworth81

11-07-2003, 07:16 AM

doesn't anyone sleep anymore

deez nuts

11-07-2003, 07:35 AM

do it.

good way to meet some crack ho's

kasia

11-07-2003, 07:49 AM

sure, if you want to lose a few pounds.

you can get the nice hollow cheeks effect.

ChinaLama

11-07-2003, 07:56 AM

i dunno, dude, if you want an energy boost, just drink some jolt or pop a no-doz; i think snorting cocaine also gives you a low after-effect (or is that only crack?).

kimpossible

11-07-2003, 08:35 AM

Cocaine is highly addictive. The majority of people overall aren't addicts but the thing is you'll never really know until it's too late. I'd give you the most emphatic "NO!" I possibly could but it's your body, your decision. I've seen a couple of people close to me go through addiction. It's some ugly shit and it can put you in contact with people you would've happily gone your whole life not knowing.

applehead

11-07-2003, 11:02 AM

i can't believe you're
even asking a question like this.

Chester

11-07-2003, 12:01 PM

So has anyone ever tried cocaine? Is it possible to be a non-addictive cocaine user?
I suppose anything's possible, but doing blow in order to stay up for studying seems like a big waste of a very fun, expensive drug.

If you just need to stay up, do like Jessie Spano and use caffeine pills. But, like Jessie, make sure you have a Zach around to come to the rescue when you, like, totally freak out at the school dance. "I'M SO EXCITED! I'M SO EXCITED! I'M SO...scared."

Anyway, my personal philosophy is that it's a bad idea to do any substance to which you have ready access.

coagulated fat

11-07-2003, 12:19 PM

If you just need to stay up, do like Jessie Spano and use caffeine pills. But, like Jessie, make sure you have a Zach around to come to the rescue when you, like, totally freak out at the school dance. "I'M SO EXCITED! I'M SO EXCITED! I'M SO...scared."
LOL I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

Chester

11-07-2003, 12:38 PM

LOL I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
I would expect nothing less from you.

blkazngirl

11-07-2003, 12:42 PM

DONT DO IT!
I work with people that are addicted to drugs. My own brother was on drugs. And let me tell you, they all started with smoking pot. Each drug is only going to get so high. So you move on to another drug trying to reach a new high. Next thing you know you're so far out there you can't get back.

My brother had to hit rock bottom and go through the pain of being Semi disowned. It hurt everyone that loved him, but we had to do what we had to do. He was lucky, that he had the will-power to kick the habit. But some people are not.

Your friend is already in the denial stage. He'll ge you started, because misery loves company. You just sit back and watch him. Soon he'll start missing class, work or other events. Things will start being missing or he'll start selling his stuff. True me, I know. My family lived with it. You don't know the feeling you get when you wake up in the middle of the night and your brother is going through your stuff looking for money or any other stuff to sell. My parents went as far as buying everyone a lock for our bed room doors. The bottom line was when my parents put him out.

Please don't do it.

Ogumo

11-07-2003, 01:51 PM

I had a friend to had been using cocaine for 2 years, but only occasionly. Whenever he gets a gram he would finish it within a week or so. But he would only get a gram once a month. He still say that he feels the need for some yay once in a while and get a urge similiar to "need a cigeratte" feeling.

Even so the risks out weigh the positive affects.

Green_Circle

11-07-2003, 01:55 PM

Drugs are lame.

amietron

11-07-2003, 02:16 PM

Xiaorongji, I'm glad you decided to pose the question to others, here on YW, before taking your couse of action.

I've never tried cocaine before, but my friend has. He said that the high only lasted for 10-15 minutes and during those minutes, he felt so good that all he thought about was doing more. He says that you feel so happy that you don't think or know why you're happy.

Artificial happiness is great while it lasts, but in the long run, it's not worth it at all. If you don't want to think of it in terms of your health, think of it in terms of $. Cocaine is an expensive habit.

Moving to Sex and Health...

kitty

11-07-2003, 02:16 PM

I agree with HH, your body, your decision. I want to answer an emphatic no, but i think you're already considering the "no" option if you posted this thread, knowing that most people would advise against it.

Personally, it is way too expensive a drug if you're only thinking of trying to study (and I'm not sure... can you really concentrate when you're high on coke?) If you need an adrenaline boost, go for a run before you start studying, drink an espresso, or if you have to, pop a caffeine pill. (or you could consider tossing the pot out the window and starting your studying earlier).

If you're considering coke for other reasons than studying, than you'll have to recognize that you *won't* know when you become addicted. Addicts are usually in heavy denial until someone/someones confront them -- does anyone have your back? does anyone know your "non-addicted" friend well enough to be able to tell that he's not addicted?

but again, your body, your decision.

John0101

11-07-2003, 02:21 PM

I wouldn't say don't try it, but JUST try it and never touch it again.

Ogumo

11-07-2003, 02:25 PM

I wouldn't say don't try it, but JUST try it and never touch it again.

That one time could be what starts a long path with that drug.

shy

11-07-2003, 02:55 PM

i heard that it is highly addictive.. and though i'm not one to know if that's been exhaggerated or not, i have heard that it only takes one time to make an addict out of it.

so the choice is whether or not you want to test your waters... either way, it's very harsh on one's body.

personally, i hope you don't do it. all the best... and take care of yourself.

John0101

11-07-2003, 03:18 PM

That one time could be what starts a long path with that drug.

Yes it could, but it's not your choice to make. If you really want to try it, just say to yourself one time and thats it! No more no matter what.

applehead

11-07-2003, 03:46 PM

Ogumo

11-07-2003, 03:57 PM

Yes it could, but it's not your choice to make. If you really want to try it, just say to yourself one time and thats it! No more no matter what.

Easier said than done.

John0101

11-07-2003, 05:03 PM

Easier said than done.

one time? It's not even physically possible to get hooked on smoking cigs after one cig. I really doubt you can get hooked on coke after one time, unless it's mentally addicting.

ChinaLama

11-07-2003, 05:24 PM

amietron

11-07-2003, 05:26 PM

you make it sound more enticing now, which i don't think was your intention. :(

gee amy...what you said about artificial happiness and stuff, isn't that essentially what pot and alcohol are. :D

sorry to be picking on you. ;)
well, it's true. all of it, even pot and alcohol.

Tao

11-07-2003, 06:18 PM

here's a crazy idea, don't smoke pot...then maybe you can get some studying done.

I mean what's the point of doing pot if your gonna use coke to counter it? why don't you just not do any of it to begin with?

I can't begin to tell you about the damage that you'll do to your synaptic pathways, or the long term body chemistry alterations, all I can tell you is that you might want to reconsider your priorities in life if doing new kinds of drugs is the only thing occupying your mind.

Hiroshi2

11-07-2003, 06:20 PM

one time? It's not even physically possible to get hooked on smoking cigs after one cig.

Says who? I got hooked after my first cig.

I have to admit this question did sound a bit................stupid. As others have pointed out, if you're looking for an energy boost to help you study, there seems to be a million other ways that are cheaper and less harmful for you that could accomplish the same thing.

Aren't you the same dude who said that your friends have expressed interest in fucking dogs and shit? You REALLY need to get new friends.

ModernLogic

11-07-2003, 06:57 PM

i can't believe you're
even asking a question like this.

Two years ago, I wouldn't have believed I would be asking this question either. You're talking to a DARE program alumni here. But that was before I smoked pot and met a lot of people in college who did drugs.

While I'm still cautious of drugs, I do believe that certain aspects of drug culture has been exaggerated, particularly the addictiveness. But I agree that the risks of developing an addiction far outweigh the possible benefits so I won't be doing anything else other than pot.

ModernLogic

11-07-2003, 07:05 PM

Aren't you the same dude who said that your friends have expressed interest in fucking dogs and shit? You REALLY need to get new friends.

LOL. My beastiality thread was tongue-in-cheek, more or less.

mr. x

11-07-2003, 07:08 PM

Xiao, watch Better Luck Tommorow man, crack did NOTHING good for him

ism

11-07-2003, 07:11 PM

Like a lot of other people said, it's up to you. It's physically addictive, so a comparison to pot (mentally addictive) isn't fair. How your body responds to that possible addiction is a toss-up. I'm not so sure about your friend, because that's what my friend said too. In retrospect, it was a carefully worded denial. Eventually, his actions became more furtive, and he wound up ODing.

What his habit did to his friends and family probably wasn't factored in when he decided to try it the first time. So do what you will with your body, but keep in mind anyone else you may affect.

Ogumo

11-07-2003, 07:14 PM

America has a long and ridiculous history with this drug...

John0101

11-07-2003, 07:22 PM

Aren't you the same dude who said that your friends have expressed interest in fucking dogs and shit? You REALLY need to get new friends.

??? my friends don't fuck dogs, and yes i REALLY do need to get new friends.

ChinaLama

11-07-2003, 07:33 PM

LOL. My beastiality thread was tongue-in-cheek, more or less.

i wish i'd known that sooner. i was thinking, "wow Berkeley really IS as weird as they say it is!"

Chester

11-07-2003, 07:37 PM

But I agree that the risks of developing an addiction far outweigh the possible benefits so I won't be doing anything else other than pot.
Putting issues of addiction aside, there are no possible benefits. There's possible enjoyment, but there aren't benefits -- not in the sense of being the diametric opposite of the risks.

Which is to say that, yes, if you're very self-disciplined and cautious about this stuff, you can try a lot of different stuff and walk away from it. But, the point remains that you're not missing out on "benefits" if you never try the stuff to begin with.

All that said, blow is fun as shit. Much more so than pot, but not quite as much as E.

But F. all that shit. They all take a back seat to whiskey.

golden_buns

11-07-2003, 07:43 PM

But, if you are looking for a drug to help you study there are many other drugs that are less addicting, ephedra (over the counter), caffine, Adderall (coke's little brother, perscription), Ritalin, Dexadrin (sp?). All of these are uppers.

Some people have a more addicting personalities then others, if you can't control yourself I would not try cocaine. So expensive for the high, while I can pickup some other uppers and feel almost as good.

I had to stop taking aderol and ritalin because I was getting addicted to it. I started using it for my studies, since there were times in which I wouldn't sleep for 2 days studying. I also started noticing that it was giving a kick to feel more social and friendly, and I was becoming the center of a party.

I've heard that coke gives you more boost than these drugs, so I'm pretty sure that if I started using this, I'd becoming a total addict.

amietron

11-07-2003, 07:50 PM

All that said, blow is fun as shit. Much more so than pot, but not quite as much as E.
E. hehehehehe.

ChinaLama

11-07-2003, 07:52 PM

staying up really late or running also give highs. :)

John0101

11-07-2003, 07:54 PM

I had to stop taking aderol and ritalin because I was getting addicted to it. I started using it for my studies, since there were times in which I wouldn't sleep for 2 days studying. I also started noticing that it was giving a kick to feel more social and friendly, and I was becoming the center of a party.

I've heard that coke gives you more boost than these drugs, so I'm pretty sure that if I started using this, I'd becoming a total addict.

this happened to my friend, he was a totally ehead until he popped like 10 pills in one night and crashed hardcore. but then he just replaced e with adderal and dexies. he's totally paranoid now, he stays up till like 4 or 5 am and wakes up at 8am thinking that the cops are going to get him. Kinda of sad.

amietron

11-07-2003, 07:54 PM

staying up really late or running also give highs. :)
but they're different. the artificial ones are better.

ChinaLama

11-07-2003, 07:59 PM

but they're different. the artificial ones are better.

the greatest high is being superior in something. too bad i have to settle for the "staying up late" high.

Hiroshi2

11-07-2003, 08:07 PM

??? my friends don't fuck dogs, and yes i REALLY do need to get new friends.

I wasn't talking to you.

John0101

11-07-2003, 08:43 PM

I wasn't talking to you.

o, sorry :blush:

achtungbaby

11-07-2003, 08:53 PM

Finally, if you haven't seen the movie already, go watch Requiem for a Dream.That was about heroin.

achtungbaby

11-07-2003, 08:54 PM

You're not gonna do it, you wuss:)

bwahahah

ChinaLama

11-07-2003, 09:05 PM

You're not gonna do it, you wuss:)

bwahahah

but his friends will do rudy, so laugh at his expense. :(

amietron

11-08-2003, 02:04 AM

but his friends will do rudy, so laugh at his expense. :(
they won't touch rudy. i'll bust a cap on 'em if they do.

applehead

11-08-2003, 12:42 PM

i'll bust a cap on 'em if they do.

hahahahaha
why are you talking like that?

amietron

11-08-2003, 01:05 PM

hahahahaha
why are you talking like that?
because he's not allowed to hurt rudy. AB told me to make boys afraid of me.

achtungbaby

11-08-2003, 02:39 PM

because he's not allowed to hurt rudy. AB told me to make boys afraid of me.Indeed. It is better to be feared than to be loved.

mr. x

11-08-2003, 06:15 PM

That was about heroin.

heh

heroin = lower class
marijuana = middle class
cocaine = upper class

course there is crossover here and there

teaz0r

11-09-2003, 12:03 AM

man, you passed up free coke?
shhiiiiiieeeeeeeeet.

i can't possibly begin to fathom how that made sense.

asfkl;jasdl;fjkasl;dfj!

don't do drugs. it's bad for you.

kdi

11-09-2003, 12:18 PM

coke is good

SunWuKong

11-09-2003, 12:57 PM

AB told me to make boys afraid of me.

HAHHAHHAHHAH

KrHyme

11-09-2003, 02:46 PM

Irezumi Kiss

11-11-2003, 04:37 PM

I've done it a few times. Like most vices, it takes you up for a little bit and then it goes away. But it never stuck with me enough to make me an "addict." And my personal focus in life...just doesn't vibe with the coke culture. I've never felt any need to "have" it to the point where I'm actively searching for it to the detriment to other things in my life.

One point is that I've never paid for it and I never will. Cost too much and I can think of better things to waste my money on. My friends who do it will have it and they share...if I feel like I wanna do it, then I do it because I know and respect my limitations, but by and large, since the feeling doesn't stick with me and I like to keep my wits about me to a certain extent (not a good idea to walk around New York City late at night being fucked up enough to get jacked), I decline. Same with weed.

Sake, beer and wine, along with the occasional company of a beautiful lady are all the addictions I need!

TyroneK(prettypretty)

11-13-2003, 09:21 AM

Sake, beer and wine, along with the occasional company of a beautiful lady are all the addictions I need!
So alcoholism is part of a fine and well-adjusted life? Awesome.

Irezumi Kiss

11-13-2003, 11:26 AM

So alcoholism is part of a fine and well-adjusted life? Awesome.

Surrre...

...especially when you wanna read into something someone wrote about CASUAL DRINKING in a thread dedicated to the possible evils of COCAINE just to make a petty little justification on how HIS life is oh-so MUCH better because HE doesn't imbibe a little Asti Spumanti on occasion...

What, you wanna medal or something cuz you don't drink? When exactly did I say I WAS an alkie? If that's the case, then 90% of YW are suspect winos, you'd best start preaching your gospel everytime someone comes on here in one of their "drunken and bored" threads!

Gimme some insight on the kinda vices YOU do, if any, that makes your life so Doris Day glorious, why dontcha?

:dry:

ChinaLama

11-13-2003, 12:53 PM

hey hey, it's not that serious, IK. Calm down.

TyroneK(prettypretty)

11-13-2003, 12:56 PM

Jesus. Somebody took his agitation pill today.

In case you didn't notice IK, my message was in jest. Pure sarcasm. Something stated seriously but meant for humorous effect.

Come to think of it, I don't even remember joking about anything rather than your overly broad diction. You mentioned that you were addicted to "beer, sake, and wine." I just thought it was funny. Did I make a serious moral judgment about you personally? No. Did I mention I don't drink? No. Did I even talk about you? No. I just made a joke about a sentence you wrote and the joke wasn't even that pointed or offensive.

Get over yourself.

SunWuKong

11-13-2003, 12:56 PM

Surrre...

...especially when you wanna read into something someone wrote about CASUAL DRINKING in a thread dedicated to the possible evils of COCAINE just to make a petty little justification on how HIS life is oh-so MUCH better because HE doesn't imbibe a little Asti Spumanti on occasion...

What, you wanna medal or something cuz you don't drink? When exactly did I say I WAS an alkie? If that's the case, then 90% of YW are suspect winos, you'd best start preaching your gospel everytime someone comes on here in one of their "drunken and bored" threads!

Gimme some insight on the kinda vices YOU do, if any, that makes your life so Doris Day glorious, why dontcha?

:dry:

chill out. you joked. he joked back.
one can easily have complained about your condoning of alcoholic addiction.
but everybody knew you were joking. and you should know that VBKao was also joking.

applehead

11-13-2003, 12:59 PM

So alcoholism is part of a fine and well-adjusted life? Awesome.

isn't it?
let's drink to that!!!

shy

11-13-2003, 01:02 PM

I highly advice you not to touch cocaine. I have few friends who are still doing that sh*t, and damn~ their life is falling apart... They are always depressed, and I'm sure you don't want to be like that.

that's really too bad. :(

i knew this girl in university who was clean and sober from it. she said that her life, however, fell appart soon after she started the drug habit. the scary thing was how fast it fell appart... she said it was only several months before she hit rock bottom.

also, something to do w/ how it screwed up her heart so that the muscles of her heart was weaker.

Irezumi Kiss

11-13-2003, 01:31 PM

Get over yourself.

Been over me.

Hard to tell if you were really jokin' or tryin' to make a point.

I took it as both, so I kept it lite...with a little bite...just in case.

;)

It's all good.

Soooo....

Wanna kiss and make up over a glass of wine?

I promise to buy if you'll spring for the dime bag.

:beerchug: