Rush Limbaugh

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"If [Surgeon General Jocelyn Elders] wants to legalize drugs, send the people who want to do drugs to London and Zurich, and let's be rid of them.
- Rush Limbaugh show, Dec 9, 1993

"There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up.

What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too."
- Rush Limbaugh show, Oct. 5, 1995

Or have them check into rehab...

How would Rush spin it? (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/columnists.nsf/Bill+McClellan/25FF9A36D42606EA86256DBE001517F2?OpenDocument&Headline=If+Bill+Clinton+were++an+addict,+here\'s+ how+Rush+might+spin+it)

[kimpossible]

I think that's why he went for prescription drugs. In his mind it was medicine he was taking, not feeding an opiate habit.

[yoMAMA]

Get him the max!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nail his fat ass :eat_arrow

[Danny]

I am not a big fan of Rush, but do like his economic views... question... why kick the man while he's down?

[yoMAMA]

why?

the short answer is, because he is an ASSHOLE, a world class one at that.

People like him don't deserve any sympathies, because if you and I were in his situation, he would just spit in you face and laugh at you.

That's why.

[kimpossible]

Why not hold him to the very standards he put forth?

hell, i'm all a-tingle about kicking him when he's down. he put himself there. sanctimonious asswipe.

ooh, who said that?

[Danny]

Who has he put down in a personal regard? I am not defending him, but he did come clean. For people like that, a little compassion should be shown. Very little is known about his personal affairs, but from what I have heard about him from other radio broadcasters that do know him, he is one of the most generous people they have ever met. He is constantly donating money to civic improvements. So what if his politics are different then yours. You show what kind of a person you are by the way you react to his situation.

[Danny]

Why not hold him to the very standards he put forth?

You can hold him to the same standards.... but the man has a problem and he has come clean about it... to defeat a problem, you must first admit that you have one. That in itself is a noble act.

[kimpossible]

He checked into rehab because he was investigated by the authorities. It's a desperate attempt to deal with getting NAILED. You can like him, I don't care. I'm giddy as a schoolgirl that he lost all credibility.

Danny, I'm shallow and mean. Rush getting caught is my idea of fun.

[Danny]

He checked into rehab because he was investigated by the authorities. It's a desperate attempt to deal with getting NAILED. You can like him, I don't care. I'm giddy as a schoolgirl that he lost all credibility.

Again, I don't sit there and say that I am a big fan of his... his economic views I agree with, but that in no way means that I am a fan of his. I just think that it is really sad that you can sit there and kick the man while he is down. I mean you sit there and say that he is getting what he deserves, in what manner?

The quotes that started off this thread were in regards to illegal drugs. Being addicted to prescription drugs is another story. That is a common side affect, Bret Farve was addicted, many hollywood types have been addicted. What is your point in putting him down? You may not like the guy, but you certainly do not need to go around singing zippity doo dah about his misfortune.

Kills his credibilty? Believe me, if you are a fan of Rush, this is no way kills his credibility.

[Danny]

Danny, I'm shallow and mean. Rush getting caught is my idea of fun.

Okay, understood.... :)

[yoMAMA]

I'm all for nailing him and getting him the max, because since I'm a conservative and a law and order guy, no sympathies should be shown to a someone who has....guess what.....all you hardcore law and order people....


HE BROKE THE LAW!

THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope Florida prosecutors makes an example of him. I'm sure he won't be lonely in the prison system at all :D

[Danny]

I'm all for nailing him and getting him the max, because since I'm a conservative and a law and order guy, no sympathies should be shown to a someone who has....guess what.....all you hardcore law and order people....

HE BROKE THE LAW!

THE LAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope Florida prosecutors makes an example of him. I'm sure he won't be lonely in the prison system at all :D

You know that won't happen... nice to believe that it would, but you know that it is not going to happen. Florida is Bush country, Limbaugh has done a lot for Bush... there is no way that anything is going to happen.

[yoMAMA]

Yeah, so when bill clinton gets a blowjob with an intern, he gets impeached.....

while a world class hypocrite/drug abuser/cowardly little man who uses his maid to buy drugs for him, is just supposed to get a free ride?

I mean, I'm all for applauding him for standing up....after getting his ass exposed by the national enquirer........but as it says...

When you do the crime, you gotta do the time.

[Danny]

Clinton is making more money now than he did as the president. How did he pay for his perjury?

[yoMAMA]

I'm not a big fan of Clintons, I think he's a liar and cheater


but still, look at the hypocrisy.

[kimpossible]

Yeah, so when bill clinton gets a blowjob with an intern, he gets impeached.....


Well how else are all those old bags in congress gonna get a juicy intern to talk about 'smoking the cigar'.

[yoMAMA]

LOL!

Those old farts!



:D

[Danny]

I'm not a big fan of Clintons, I think he's a liar and cheater but still, look at the hypocrisy.

I am lost on the hypocrisy issue. Clinton lied under under oath. Limbaugh broke the law by buying illegal prescription drugs. Clinton walked away with nothing. Rush will walk away with nothing (most likely).

Now if Rush lies under oath, then you can cry hipocrisy. Until then, this are two different events, you cannot compare apples and oranges with these two events.

[ism]

The quotes that started off this thread were in regards to illegal drugs. Being addicted to prescription drugs is another story.

The laws he cites say what he was did was illegal. Prescription drugs are controlled substances to be dispensed by a licensed physician, and he was obtaining them from his maid and people on medication.

I just wonder if he still thinks the best way to solve addiction problems is to toss drug users in jail.

[kimpossible]

Clinton was cooler. He got his cigar smoked by eager college co-ed lips. Rush had his maid by pills.

Lame.

[Danny]

The laws he cites say what he was did was illegal. Prescription drugs are controlled substances to be dispensed by a licensed physician, and he was obtaining them from his maid and people on medication.

Yes, in literal terms you are right, but in reality, we all know what kinds of drugs he was talking about and the kinds of drug users that he was talking about. It is increasingly easier to get addicted to painkillers because a doctor prescribes them to you for pain. It is another thing to go out and get addicted to cocaine, you physically have to find where to buy it, which in itself is illegal.

What Rush did was wrong, I am not saying it was right. I am saying that putting his situation in the context of the quotes is misleading. Then again, if it were a liberal commentator that did it, conservative people wouild be coming out saying the same thing and it would be wrong, in the light of the quotes that have been given.

[ChinaLama]

Ok. I suppose a better analogy would be-- what dos Rush think of alcoholics? Because getting addicted to painkillers, reading Danny's posts, is roughly equivalent to getting addicted to alcohol, although it's worse since buying extra prescription drugs under the table is illegal, while buying lots of alcohol isn't.

But I'm just posing a question, not offering a judgment. When I was younger, I read Rush's books and thought they were funny, so I don't dislike the guy.

[kimpossible]

hah. that's why I said

I think that's why he went for prescription drugs. In his mind it was medicine he was taking, not feeding an opiate habit

[Danny]

Ok. I suppose a better analogy would be-- what dos Rush think of alcoholics? Because getting addicted to painkillers, reading Danny's posts, is roughly equivalent to getting addicted to alcohol, although it's worse since buying extra prescription drugs under the table is illegal, while buying lots of alcohol isn't.

Getting addicted to Alcohol is not the same though... painkillers are easy to get addicted to, because especially in the case of a botched surgery, you are popping those things all of the time. AGain, you are comparing apples and oranges. When does a doctor prescribe whiskey?

[ChinaLama]

But you can both get addicted to the thing from LEGAL activities, that's why they're analogous.

And the fact that one has to obtain pills illegally, in other words go through a lot of trouble to get them, kind of weakens the addiction argument, because a person can just NOT go through that trouble and just NOT buy the pills. In other words, Rush had a choice of stopping the addiction early on by depriving himself of the supply, but he chose not to.

Okl i'm being a total hypocrite here since i'm at least somewhat a TV and internet addict, so if i can't quit these two things, i really should stfu about drug addictions. :-)

[yoMAMA]

who thinks that darrly strawberry should be the new ESPN sunday night football color commentary guy?

[kimpossible]

I think Rush Limbaugh was a commentator because he was white. The public wants to see a white commentator.

Darryl Strawberry? You're joking, right?

[Danny]

And the fact that one has to obtain pills illegally, in other words go through a lot of trouble to get them, kind of weakens the addiction argument, because a person can just NOT go through that trouble and just NOT buy the pills. In other words, Rush had a choice of stopping the addiction early on by depriving himself of the supply, but he chose not to.

Oh, I am not saying what he did was right, in any manner. I am just stating that there is a different perception that people take in regards to the two items, being the hard core drugs and the pain killers. Most people will sit there, when they think drug addict, they are thinking herione addict. When you talk about someone as a drug addict, you see those images. THe quotes being used from Rush were in relation to thos kinds of addicts. Prescription drug addicts do fall into that ring, but are not thought of when you say Drug addict.

He's got a problem and he is dealing with it. He SHOULD probably get tried and given some time for the amount of the offense. But to sit there and attribute quotes that he made, that were not about the situation or the types of people he was talking about, is wrong. People are taking his words and applying it to him, when the context of his words were not in relation to people like him.

There is a distinction. It would be one thing if he said those things and then was found with a crack pipe in his hands.

If you want to get on him about his actions, fine, but do not sit there and pull quotes out that he stated, in a context that is different than the situation and try to apply it to this situation, becuase the context is different.

[Danny]

I think Rush Limbaugh was a commentator because he was white. The public wants to see a white commentator.

Darryl Strawberry? You're joking, right?


:laugh:

[ChinaLama]

I think Rush Limbaugh was a commentator because he was white. The public wants to see a white commentator.

Darryl Strawberry? You're joking, right?

Mike Tyson. HE"s the commentator they should put on, hell, anything. Have him replace Conan O'Brien or Jay Leno or something.

[yoMAMA]

I think Rush Limbaugh was a commentator because he was white. The public wants to see a white commentator.

Darryl Strawberry? You're joking, right?

Yes, I was joking.

More like, sarcasm.....being this ESPN desperately wants attention.......and who's better than plain old darrly.....he also played for the saint paul saints for a couple month in the late 90s :D

[ism]

If you want to get on him about his actions, fine, but do not sit there and pull quotes out that he stated, in a context that is different than the situation and try to apply it to this situation, becuase the context is different.

Limbaugh had the option of further surgery to correct the pain, but he opted for the drugs instead. Doctors do initially prescribe the drugs, but they explain the addictive effects, and Limbaugh still wanted them. How is seeking an addictive substance to aleviate pain when there are alternatives different from the scenario you say the quotes are about? The quotes make no mention of rehabilitation; once someone is trapped by addiction he considers them permanently lost. He makes no mention of how someone comes to be addicted, so are we reading his mind now?

[VV o n g B a]

danny, the reason ppl want to kick rush while he's down is because ppl are vindictive. this guy has been playing the populist preacher for so many years and been a fly that ppl couldn't swat for that entire time... of course they're gonna be happy when he slips.

if he'd been some hollywood star or a famous musician then ppl wouldn't care as much. they expect that type of behavior with those ppl. just as they expected it with arnold. but he's not one of those ppl. he's been the political "analyst" that exaggerates, tells half-truths, and spins everything in a manner that fits his world view. and the ppl who disagree with him are idiots or something worse. he makes his living by capitalizing on the faults and foibles of his political enemies real or half imagined. if these allegations would have come out against some prominent democrat, do u see him not taking advantage of it somehow?

this is ppl being ppl. if rush had not been the type of person he was, he would receive more sympathy from ppl all around. but then again he wouldn't have been famous. he's getting his just payment for standing on a morale/political high horse and not being able to live out the life of a saint. and like u say, he'll likely get off without any kind of prison time. so where's the real damage here?

[deez nuts]

i still like him.

[Faithless]

Can Rush really kick his prescription pill habit in a month with just a bit of therapy?

Or is he in denial?

If he can, he's got a new business selling his addiction recovery plan.